Re: iabelle francois

2010-04-22 Thread John Palmer (NANOG Acct)
- Original Message - From: "Ted Cooper" To: Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:33 PM Subject: Re: iabelle francois Posting so many URLs which either are or should be listed in domain block lists to a list with as many subscribers as this is probably not wise. I'm guessing you j

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Jim Burwell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/22/2010 22:18, Matthew Kaufman wrote: > Owen DeLong wrote: >> On Apr 22, 2010, at 5:55 AM, Jim Burwell wrote: >> >> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 4/22/2010 05:34, Simon Perreault wrote: >>> On 2010-04-22 07:18,

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Jim Burwell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/22/2010 22:00, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2010, at 5:55 AM, Jim Burwell wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 4/22/2010 05:34, Simon Perreault wrote: >>> On 2010-04-22 07:18, William Herrin wrote: On the o

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Owen DeLong wrote: On Apr 22, 2010, at 5:55 AM, Jim Burwell wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/22/2010 05:34, Simon Perreault wrote: On 2010-04-22 07:18, William Herrin wrote: On the other hand, I could swear I've seen a draft where the PC picks up rando

Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]

2010-04-22 Thread Owen DeLong
On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Bill Bogstad wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM, David Conrad wrote: >> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: So what happens when you change providers? How are you going to keep using globals that now aren't yours? >>> use pi space

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Owen DeLong
On Apr 22, 2010, at 5:55 AM, Jim Burwell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 4/22/2010 05:34, Simon Perreault wrote: >> On 2010-04-22 07:18, William Herrin wrote: >>> On the other hand, I could swear I've seen a draft where the PC >>> picks up random unused addresses

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Owen DeLong
On Apr 22, 2010, at 4:30 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: >> >> On the other hand, I could swear I've seen a draft where the PC picks >> up random unused addresses in the lower 64 for each new outbound >> connection for anonymity purposes. Even if there is no such draft, it >> wouldn't e

Re: iabelle francois

2010-04-22 Thread Ted Cooper
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 23:22 -0400, Eric Carroll wrote: > On 10-04-21 06:59 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > > The url redirects to a Canadian med site. > Just FYI, it's not a real Canadian med site. It is high probability > not > even Canadian. Posting so many URLs which either are or should be liste

Re: iabelle francois

2010-04-22 Thread Eric Carroll
On 10-04-21 06:59 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: The url redirects to a Canadian med site. Just FYI, it's not a real Canadian med site. It is high probability not even Canadian. The site appears to be a referral round robin over many domain names, including: - www.yourtabletrxhealth.com/ - trace

sync attack from cox.net

2010-04-22 Thread Ingo Flaschberger
Hi, can please someone from cox.net contact me? I receive now since more tha 24 hours a syn-attack from their network - and abuse contact does not react. Kind regards, ingo flaschberger geschaeftsleitung crossip communications gmbh A-1020 Wien, Sebas

Re: Mail Submission Protocol

2010-04-22 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 4/21/2010 8:16 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: The MAAWG BCPs have far more available than one of the worst maintained blacklists that has ever been in existence. For example: d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg

Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]

2010-04-22 Thread bmanning
> believe in the ARIN region all you NEED to do is provide a spreadsheet > showing your utilization, checking for the routes in the 'DFZ' > (bmanning-summons) isn't relevant for additional requests. "... all circuits are busy, please call back later..." > -chris --bill

Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]

2010-04-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM, David Conrad wrote: >> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: So what happens when you change providers? How are you going to keep using globals that now aren't yours? >>> use pi s

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Scott Weeks
--- j...@jsbc.cc wrote: From: Jim Burwell I think this is different. They're talking about using a new IPv6 for each connection. RFC4941 just changes it over time IIRC. IMHO that's still pretty good privacy, at least on par with a NATed IPv4 from the outside perspective, especially if you ro

Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]

2010-04-22 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM, David Conrad wrote: > On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: >>> So what happens when you change providers? How are you going to keep >>> using globals that now aren't yours? >> use pi space, request it from your local friendly RIR. > > And don't

Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]

2010-04-22 Thread David Conrad
On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: >> So what happens when you change providers? How are you going to keep >> using globals that now aren't yours? > use pi space, request it from your local friendly RIR. And don't forget to invest in memory manufacturers and router vendors :-)

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/22/2010 10:17, Charles Mills wrote: > I think he was actually quoting the movie. They always called Harvey > Korman's character "Hedy" and he'd always correct them with "That's > Hedley" in a most disapproving tone. Oh. The only thing I watch less-of than TV is movies. Saydid they ever

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:04 AM, John Lightfoot wrote: That's Hedley. I believe that he is talking about Hedy Lamarr, the co-inventor of frequency hopping spread spectrum. Regards Marshall -Original Message- From: bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com [mailto:bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Charles Mills
I think he was actually quoting the movie. They always called Harvey Korman's character "Hedy" and he'd always correct them with "That's Hedley" in a most disapproving tone. You had to have watched that movie way too many times (much to my wife's chagrin) to catch the subtle joke. On Thu, Apr 22,

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/22/2010 10:04, John Lightfoot wrote: > That's Hedley. > > -Original Message- > From: bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com [mailto:bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:34 AM > To: Simon Perreault > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fa

RE: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Matthew Huff
Actually, no. Not from the Mel Brooks movie. Hedy Lamarr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr Hedy Lamarr (November 9, 1914 - January 19, 2000) was an Austrian-born American actress and engineer. Though known primarily for her film career as a major contract star of MGM's "Golden Age", sh

RE: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread John Lightfoot
That's Hedley. -Original Message- From: bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com [mailto:bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:34 AM To: Simon Perreault Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 08:34:20AM -0400, Simo

Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]

2010-04-22 Thread Richard Barnes
Isn't "global addresses you can take with you when you change providers" kind of the definition of Provider Independent address space? If you want to keep the same addresses when you change providers, you just need to get a PI allocation. --Richard On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Mark Smith wro

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 08:34:20AM -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: > On 2010-04-22 07:18, William Herrin wrote: > >On the other hand, I could swear I've seen a draft where the PC picks > >up random unused addresses in the lower 64 for each new outbound > >connection for anonymity purposes. > > That'

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Mohacsi Janos
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, William Herrin wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Roger Marquis wrote: William Herrin wrote: Not to take issue with either statement in particular, but I think there needs to be some consideration of what "fail" me

Re: Looking for an Admin at the IANA...

2010-04-22 Thread bmanning
i...@iana.org or... 310.823.9358 On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 05:54:03AM -0700, todd glassey wrote: > I am looking for a technical contact inside the IANA regarding their > internal network if anyone knows one. > > Todd Glassey

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Jim Burwell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/22/2010 05:34, Simon Perreault wrote: > On 2010-04-22 07:18, William Herrin wrote: >> On the other hand, I could swear I've seen a draft where the PC >> picks up random unused addresses in the lower 64 for each new >> outbound connection for anon

Looking for an Admin at the IANA...

2010-04-22 Thread todd glassey
I am looking for a technical contact inside the IANA regarding their internal network if anyone knows one. Todd Glassey <>

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread Simon Perreault
On 2010-04-22 07:18, William Herrin wrote: On the other hand, I could swear I've seen a draft where the PC picks up random unused addresses in the lower 64 for each new outbound connection for anonymity purposes. That's probably RFC 4941. It's available in pretty much all operating systems. I

Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]

2010-04-22 Thread Florian Weimer
> a few questions. > > IPv6 on your radar? > Looking at options for addressing your future v6 needs? > > Have you looked at the IETF/ID in the subject line? ULA looks always interesting, but tends to end up in obscurity because the right folks don't buy in. Anyway, the proposal brings IPv6 down t

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 07:46:50AM -0400, William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:30 AM, wrote: > >> On the other hand, I could swear I've seen a draft where the PC picks > >> up random unused addresses in the lower 64 for each new outbound > >> connection for anonymity purposes. Even i

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:30 AM, wrote: >> On the other hand, I could swear I've seen a draft where the PC picks >> up random unused addresses in the lower 64 for each new outbound >> connection for anonymity purposes. Even if there is no such draft, it >> wouldn't exactly be hard to implement. I

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread bmanning
> > On the other hand, I could swear I've seen a draft where the PC picks > up random unused addresses in the lower 64 for each new outbound > connection for anonymity purposes. Even if there is no such draft, it > wouldn't exactly be hard to implement. It won't take NAT to anonymize > the PCs on

Re: Mail Submission Protocol

2010-04-22 Thread Raoul Bhatia [IPAX]
On 22.04.2010 13:07, Tony Finch wrote: Er, no. TLS-on-connect aka smtps (as opposed to STARTTLS) is only used to support Microsoft MUAs that are more than a couple of years old. They only supported STARTTLS on port 25 and insisted on using the deprecated TLS-on-connect mode on all other ports. Th

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-22 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Roger Marquis wrote: >> William Herrin wrote: Not to take issue with either statement in particular, but I think there needs to be some consideration of what "fail" means. >>> >>> Fail means that an inexp

Re: Mail Submission Protocol

2010-04-22 Thread Tony Finch
On 22 Apr 2010, at 00:07, Franck Martin wrote: Consider also smtps port which should be treated like smtp port and not like submission port, or simply do not listen on smtps as TLS is available on smtp port via esmtp. Er, no. TLS-on-connect aka smtps (as opposed to STARTTLS) is only used