John,
Everything up there is a placeholder - there are no real bylaws yet. I
think you are putting the cart before the horse. I'm hoping that the
previous charter-editor committee steps up and helps put together a new set
of bylaws, congruent (but not identical) to the existing charter. I know
Dan,
According to the website, the board officially ratified the bylaws. So
there are real bylaws. The issue here is that there is a great deal
of work setting up a 501c3 organization to run NANOG and there are goals
that wish to be met. All this means is that there are changes
attempting to
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:55:13AM -0600, Sean Figgins wrote:
I believe that paid membership is the only way to actually have a real,
valid membership. Otherwise, it is just a crap shoot. The way it
currently is, we could have members that have no interest in NANOG as
a organization.
On Jun 11, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Dorian Kim wrote:
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:55:13AM -0600, Sean Figgins wrote:
I believe that paid membership is the only way to actually have a real,
valid membership. Otherwise, it is just a crap shoot. The way it
currently is, we could have members that
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Sean Figgins s...@labrats.us wrote:
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I believe that paid membership is the only way to actually have a real,
valid membership. Otherwise, it is just a crap shoot. The way it
currently is, we could have members that have no interest in NANOG as
a
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Sean Figgins wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't 501c status take about 18 months
to get?
One data point: the SIX's 501(c)(6) application was mailed on 7/3/2008 and
was approved by the IRS on 9/11/2008, so it took just a little over 2
months.
A 501(c)(3) may
On 6/11/10 10:28 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
Who is going to pay to join a mailing list?
If the membership fee were relatively low and a lifetime or long-term
(like five year) it could be relatively painless. Membership would give
voting rights as well as the mailing list.
Say $50 lifetime
Martin Hannigan wrote:
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Sean Figgins s...@labrats.us
mailto:s...@labrats.us wrote:
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I believe that paid membership is the only way to actually have a real,
valid membership. Otherwise, it is just a crap shoot. The way it
currently
On 11 Jun 2010, at 16:55, Sean Figgins wrote:
I believe that paid membership is the only way to actually have a real, valid
membership.
I agree. Make sure non North Americans can join too, please.
However, I still maintain that, although I do support independence in
principal, today's
kris foster wrote:
If Dorian (and Sean) are not talking about governance, then I agree.
The problem on the community's plate right now is governance, and
discussion of membership in NewNOG, Inc. needs to happen.
Um... I was talking about membership as a way to determine who is
interested
Who is going to pay to join a mailing list?
if i understand the social contract and the business plan, i am happy to
pay for foux-nog membership. i pay acm membership, i get some acm
publications, and i then pay to go to acm meetings. nothing new here.
randy
I went looking through old e-mails to see if I could figure out where the
current membership system came from. The earliest e-mail I could find
outlining it was this:
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:12:26 -0500
From: Daniel Golding dgold...@burtongroup.com
To: Stephen J. Wilcox
Is this when I'm supposed to admit that Wilcox was right and I was
wrong? How much is Wilcox paying you, Gibbard?!
No!
Ok, I admit it - Steve Wilcox was right and I was wrong :)
Daniel Golding
On Jun 11, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Steve Gibbard s...@gibbard.org wrote:
I went looking through
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Hypothetically speaking, if I were currently engaged in this business,
I'd pay. Both for the ability to ask questions and the ability to be asked
questions by a sensible group of people with similar goals (ie, non-trolling)
in mind[1].
And to follow
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