Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-29 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:59 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: If the data you need to preload is sufficiently large (e.g. 10s or hundreds of terabytes then yeah it should come as no surprise that it might be more convenient to move by shifting around disks. 100TB of raw disk is around $8000. The

RE: Sources of network security templates or designs

2010-06-29 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: While the DISA STIGs are probably the archetype, you have to start with whatever the sponsoring or certifying authority uses, if you need to pass some audit later. True, but even sponsoring and certifying authorities need to get information from some

RE: NANOG Digest, Vol 29, Issue 81

2010-06-29 Thread Stephen Tandy
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Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-29 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, June 28, 2010 06:50:10 pm Randy Bush wrote: > > The question, in my mind, is whether it's reasonable to ask that > > regional providers reach the same bar as privately owned campus > > networks. > > you are comparing LAN to WAN, never a bright idea Even ATM years ago blurred that arbit

Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-29 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, June 28, 2010 08:42:49 pm Randy Bush wrote: > is geoff's isp business 101 still the canonic reference for what this > reporter needs for clue? The reporter in question has plenty of clue.

Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-29 Thread Joe Greco
> > The question, in my mind, is whether it's reasonable to ask that > > regional providers reach the same bar as privately owned campus > > networks. > > you are comparing LAN to WAN, never a bright idea Today's residential internet speeds ("WAN") are greater than the LAN speeds of 20 years ago.

Network Documentation

2010-06-29 Thread Tarig Yassin
Hello every one I am curious as to how others are documenting their network; both visually and configurations. Is there any a software offers a database with web-based front end that can document in a very details. thanks -- Tarig Y. Adam CTO - SUIN www.suin.edu.sd

Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-29 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, June 28, 2010 05:46:00 pm Christopher Morrow wrote: > The broadband plan stuff mostly covers consumers, not enterprises, > most of the (amazon as the example here) cloud folks offer > disk-delivery options for businesses. One successful BTOP application in North Carolina has more to do

Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-29 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Lamar Owen wrote: On Monday, June 28, 2010 05:46:00 pm Christopher Morrow wrote: The broadband plan stuff mostly covers consumers, not enterprises, most of the (amazon as the example here) cloud folks offer disk-delivery options for businesses. One successful BTOP applica

Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-29 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 6/29/2010 09:17, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, June 28, 2010 06:50:10 pm Randy Bush wrote: >> you are comparing LAN to WAN, never a bright idea > > Even ATM years ago blurred that arbitrary line. > > Why does there even need to be a line between local and wide in terms of > networking? As

Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-29 Thread sthaug
> > you are comparing LAN to WAN, never a bright idea > > Even ATM years ago blurred that arbitrary line. > > Why does there even need to be a line between local and wide in > terms of networking? As far as IP is concerned, there is no > difference. Even as far as Ethernet is concerned, there i

Huawei PTN 910

2010-06-29 Thread Uri Joskovitch
URGENT !!! I got into trouble with this product, any one has its user manual? Installation guide? , Other documentation? Thanks Uri

Re: Network Documentation

2010-06-29 Thread Jens Link
Tarig Yassin writes: First: *PLEASE* do not start a new thread by replying to a mail an changing the subject. There is something called reference header which allows real mail clients (read: not Outlook or Notes) to do threading. This makes it much easier to read large amounts of mail > I am cur

Contract negotiations advice?

2010-06-29 Thread Patrick Giagnocavo
I am dealing with a large telecom which purchased the small telecom I signed a contract with. Despite signing only 1 contract with them, the two racks, and the bandwidth which feeds 1 rack (I connect privately to the second rack at no charge) all have different termination dates. How signing one

Re: Network Documentation

2010-06-29 Thread Brett Watson
On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Jens Link wrote: > >> I am curious as to how others are documenting their network; both >> visually and configurations. >> >> Is there any a software offers a database with web-based front end that >> can document in a very details. > > Most people I know use a wiki

Geolocation contact for Bing/Microsoft?

2010-06-29 Thread Schiller, Heather A (HeatherSkanks)
Can someone from Bing/MS contact me about correcting Geolocation info for some IP's. Folks are erroneously getting redirected - and I can't find any info about how to get it fixed. Thanks, --Heather ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Heather Schiller Network Security - Verizon Busin

RE: Geolocation contact for Bing/Microsoft?

2010-06-29 Thread Frank Bulk - iName.com
This might help you: http://www.bing.com/community/forums/p/653511/9573859.aspx Frank -Original Message- From: Schiller, Heather A (HeatherSkanks) [mailto:heather.schil...@verizonbusiness.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:47 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Geolocation contact for Bing/Micr

Re: Huawei PTN 910

2010-06-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Uri Joskovitch wrote: > URGENT !!! > > I got into trouble with this product, any one has its user manual? > > Installation guide? , Other documentation? see like the 5th link down? > Thanks > > Uri > > >

RE: Huawei PTN 910

2010-06-29 Thread Jeff Harper
Lol, you must have way too much time on your hands to make that. ;) > -Original Message- > From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 1:40 PM > To: Uri Joskovitch > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Huawei PTN 910 > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at

Re: Huawei PTN 910

2010-06-29 Thread Robert Glover
Minimal time needed http://lmgtfy.com/ On 6/29/2010 12:18 PM, Jeff Harper wrote: Lol, you must have way too much time on your hands to make that. ;) -Original Message- From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 1:40 PM To: Uri Joskovitch

RE: Contract negotiations advice?

2010-06-29 Thread Jimi Thompson
First thing is to be an educated consumer. Know what going rates and sla s cost for a given service. Also check the rep of the vendor. I find that competitive bids work well. Unless your a gov or something you dont have to take the lowest bid - take the best one. -Original Message

Re: Contract negotiations advice?

2010-06-29 Thread Adam LaFountain
> > I am dealing with a large telecom which purchased the small telecom I > signed a contract with. > > Despite signing only 1 contract with them, the two racks, and the > bandwidth which feeds 1 rack (I connect privately to the second rack at > no charge) all have different termination dates. > >

Re: Contract negotiations advice?

2010-06-29 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote: > And the wider issue of negotiating > good rates with telecoms? Carrier neutral facility. When it's in their house its their rules and their rules aren't designed for your benefit. When it's somebody else's house, they have to compete f

Re: Huawei PTN 910

2010-06-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Jeff Harper wrote: > Lol, you must have way too much time on your hands to make that. ;) I actually couldn't easily think of a quicker way to get the 'see the searchy thingy can find it for you, look at that pdf linked there' :(

Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-29 Thread Colin Alston
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Matthew Walster wrote: > On 23 June 2010 08:54, Colin Alston wrote: >> I dislike HP switches from a management point of view (and I think the >> VLAN config is nonsense), but they work fine. > > That's strange, I abhor the Cisco way of doing VLANs and love the > H