XO feedback

2010-07-01 Thread Net
Hi, We're currently looking to buy transit from XO for one of our DCs. Their pricing is very competative compared to some of the other providers we've considered to date. I'm hoping to get some feedback on their services, support, peering arrangements and the overall stability of their core backb

Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-01 Thread Gadi Evron
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/07/01/finland.broadband/index.html?hpt=T2 Interesting...

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-07-01 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 7/1/2010 00:43, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:41 AM, Michael Painter wrote: > >> As randy said not too long ago, First they came for... > > The felons? > > Strangely, I am not moved to defend them. +1 > > According to the article, they didn't even take the physical > comp

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-07-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michael Painter: > BURBANK, Calif. (AP) -- U.S. officials on Wednesday announced a major > crackdown on movie piracy that involved disabling nine websites that > were offering downloads of pirated movies in some cases hours after > they appeared in theaters. Note that some of the domain names i

Re: Future of WiMax

2010-07-01 Thread Rogelio
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Just what is going on in the WISP industry for the most part.  802.11n > so far on point-2-point links, are working quite well, cheap hardware as > well as ease of use is playing factors in this.  We are seeing 10+ mile > N links running 60

LTE for CCTV projects?

2010-07-01 Thread Rogelio
A friend of mine works for a physical security company, and he is looking for LTE vendors who might help him create wireless networks that they can run video over. Up to this point, they've used 5.x GHz (802.11a and now 802.11n) for most everything, with 4.9 GHz in certain cases where they could a

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-07-01 Thread Franck Martin
The question is because gTLDs operations are in the USA, does it mean that the USA have control over all those domain names? Can we trust solely the USA for such control? This will come back with a vengeance in the JPA negotiations, ICANN, etc... - Original Message - From: "Florian Weim

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-07-01 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Franck Martin wrote: > The question is because gTLDs operations are in the USA, does it mean that > the USA have control over all those domain names? > > Can we trust solely the USA for such control? > > This will come back with a vengeance in the JPA negotiations, I

The Economist, cyber war issue

2010-07-01 Thread Gadi Evron
The upcoming issue will be about cyber war. Check out the front page image: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs488.snc3/26668_410367784059_6013004059_4296972_499550_n.jpg Gadi.

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-07-01 Thread James Hess
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Franck Martin wrote: > The question is because gTLDs operations are in the USA, does it mean that > the USA have control over all those domain names? > Can we trust solely the USA for such control? No. However, anyone signing up for a GTLD should already have lo

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-07-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Franck Martin: > The question is because gTLDs operations are in the USA, does it > mean that the USA have control over all those domain names? Most gTLD operators do business pretty much world-wide, so they aren't exposed to just U.S. law alone. Globalization cuts both ways. In this particul

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-07-01 Thread Franck Martin
I'm not saying any other country is better, I'm just saying the Internet is international and we have the power of one jurisdiction over many internet resources. This will lead certainly to a push for re-balancing (successfully or not, for democracy or against democracy,...). The USA had a trus

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-07-01 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 7/1/2010 08:45, Franck Martin wrote: > This is all political, and not suitable for nanog, but it opens a can of > worms... If NANOG is truly about "Operations" and not just BGP knob twiddling and searches for free service, it would be well to recognize at long last that the world we operate i

Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-07-01 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, June 30, 2010 04:50:40 pm Ricky Beam wrote: > No they don't. Which version of IOS are you running? Oh, right, that > switch doesn't run IOS, it runs CatOS? Wait a min, that's a 1900... it > uses a menu interface. Yep, much like the 'NetBeyond' EtherSwitch 1420 I have here doin

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-07-01 Thread Lindqvist Kurt Erik
On 1 jul 2010, at 15.20, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > n Jul 1, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Franck Martin wrote: > >> The question is because gTLDs operations are in the USA, does it mean that >> the USA have control over all those domain names? >> >> Can we trust solely the USA for such control? >> >> T

Re: XO feedback

2010-07-01 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
I can't say I share the same experience. Their pricing is mediocre and their billing and customer service are absolutely atrocious. They sold me six cabinets with transit in one of their facilities, never installed power to the cabinets, and then tried to invoice me for the transit. To this day no

Re: The Economist, cyber war issue

2010-07-01 Thread andrew.wallace
Article: http://www.economist.com/node/16481504?story_id=16481504 My opinion: http://www.economist.com/comment/586099#comment-586099 Andrew http://sites.google.com/site/n3td3v/ - Original Message From: Gadi Evron To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, 1 July, 2010 14:25:04 Subject: The Econo

Re: The Economist, cyber war issue

2010-07-01 Thread Richard Barnes
Apparently the Economist has just become aware of the coming 8-bit apocalypse: On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: > The upcoming issue will be about cyber war. Check out the front page image: > > http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sn

Re: The Economist, cyber war issue

2010-07-01 Thread Jeroen van Aart
andrew.wallace wrote: Article: http://www.economist.com/node/16481504?story_id=16481504 I know it's shortsighted, but any article with the word cyber in it, used in such a way as being about "cyber this-or-that", already lost its credibility by virtue of using the word. It must be a of rather

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-07-01 Thread Randy Bush
> The question is because gTLDs operations are in the USA, does it mean > that the USA have control over all those domain names? the usg controls the cctlds too. randy

SPANS Vs Taps

2010-07-01 Thread Bein, Matthew
As I was doing a design today. I found that I had a bunch of 100 MB connections that I was going to bring into a aggregation tap. Then I was thinking, why don't I use a switch like a Cisco 3560 to gain more density. Anyone run into this? Any down falls with using a switch to aggregate instead of a

Type of network operators?

2010-07-01 Thread Butch Evans
I have been on this list for about 2 weeks, just observing the discussions. I have primarily worked with wireless service providers in the past who are fairly low budget operators. Some of the things I've observed about this group are: * Th

Re: SPANS Vs Taps

2010-07-01 Thread Gary Gladney
Depends on the the bunch of 100MB connections. On the down side, when aggregating using a Cisco switch is a limit on the number of switch ports you can aggregate. On the up side, you don't have to be concerned about another device between the switch and device you want to connect to. Gary

Re: The Economist, cyber war issue

2010-07-01 Thread andrew.wallace
There is a part 2 as well http://www.economist.com/node/16478792?story_id=16478792 Andrew - Original Message From: Jeroen van Aart To: NANOG list Sent: Thu, 1 July, 2010 19:57:08 Subject: Re: The Economist, cyber war issue andrew.wallace wrote: > Article: http://www.economist.com/n

Re: The Economist, cyber war issue

2010-07-01 Thread Randy Bush
> There is a part 2 as well and this is a bug or a feature?

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-01 Thread Stefan Spühler
On 07/01/2010 02:04 PM, Gadi Evron wrote: > http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/07/01/finland.broadband/index.html?hpt=T2 > > > Interesting... > Finland isn't first. http://www.comcom.admin.ch/aktuell/00429/00457/00560/index.html?lang=en&msg-id=13239

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: > http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/07/01/finland.broadband/index.html?hpt=T2 In the US, the Communications Act of 1934 brought about the creation of the "Universal Service Fund." The idea, more or less, was that every phone line customer contr

Re: XO feedback

2010-07-01 Thread Stefan Molnar
XO has many downs than ups. I am a current XO customer mainly due to the costs, having voice, PtP, Transit, and Co-Location. Here is my rundown. Internet Transit: Yes it works, and when their routing goes ape, no one knows what is going on. They have a tendency not to do a "wr mem" on t

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-01 Thread Matthew Walster
On 1 July 2010 23:17, William Herrin wrote: > In 1996 a certain inventor of the Internet decided that the universal > service fund needed to pay for PCs in rural schools (the "E-Rate" > program) instead of improving rural communications... As someone who's always been in the "tech" field, the amo

Re: SPANS Vs Taps

2010-07-01 Thread Darren Bolding
Tap manufactures will be sure to tell you of many issues. The main concern I would have is that it is possible for a switch to drop frames of a SPAN. Your decision might be influenced based on your application and the impact of such errors (billing, lawful intercept, forensics). A tap vendors ta

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-01 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 7/1/2010 18:14, Matthew Walster wrote: > On 1 July 2010 23:17, William Herrin wrote: >> In 1996 a certain inventor of the Internet decided that the universal >> service fund needed to pay for PCs in rural schools (the "E-Rate" >> program) instead of improving rural communications... > > As som

Re: SPANS Vs Taps

2010-07-01 Thread Ricky Beam
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 19:24:38 -0400, Darren Bolding wrote: Tap manufactures will be sure to tell you of many issues. Well, there are issues on both sides... A true tap is an electronic mirror. It doesn't much care what the signal is; whatever it senses, it replicates. As the OP is talking

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 12:14:42AM +0100, Matthew Walster wrote: > On 1 July 2010 23:17, William Herrin wrote: > > In 1996 a certain inventor of the Internet decided that the universal > > service fund needed to pay for PCs in rural schools (the "E-Rate" > > program) instead of improving rural com

Re: Finland makes broadband access a legal right

2010-07-01 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:17 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/07/01/finland.broadband/index.html?hpt=T2 In the US, the Communications Act of 1934 brought about the creation of the "Universal Service Fund." The idea,

Re: Type of network operators?

2010-07-01 Thread Martin Hannigan
Thanks. Your observations are good related to active posters. The overall list is very diverse. Aside from the active posters, the list is about 10K strong. Everything from AOL to people from Zoos, law enforcement, banks, and any industry you can think of. NANOG is not just a list, but an interes

RE: Type of network operators?

2010-07-01 Thread Robert West
But Butch be da dude. Only half a penny?! Butch, I can cut that penny at least into eighths! Sheeesh! Bob- -Original Message- From: Martin Hannigan [mailto:hanni...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:19 PM To: Butch Evans; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Type of network oper

Sample RFP/RFQs for routing/switching equipment

2010-07-01 Thread Don McMorris
I'm working with a very rapidly growing SME that is preparing an RFP/RFQ for new routing and switching equipment. Nothing too extravagant - 2 locations, <100mbps throughput. I'm seeking sample RFPs and RFQs for them to assist in the process - specifically to see what to ask for in terms of featur

Re: Sample RFP/RFQs for routing/switching equipment

2010-07-01 Thread kris foster
On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Don McMorris wrote: > I'm working with a very rapidly growing SME that is preparing an > RFP/RFQ for new routing and switching equipment. Nothing too > extravagant - 2 locations, <100mbps throughput. > > I'm seeking sample RFPs and RFQs for them to assist in the proc