Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 7/3/2010 18:32, Scott Berkman wrote: > I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. The word "legacy" is applied to any product that has actually shipped

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Randy Bush
> The 15.0 series is available for the 7200VXR. However, unless I'm missing > something, note that the Service Provider version doesn't have OSPFv3 for > IPv6. is-is

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Randy Bush
>> I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. > If not legacy, what word WOULD you use? widely deployed and used, and if your device can't deal then it's no deal. i am not overly fond of sonet, but i can't always choose the media over which i have to run packets. randy

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Mike
Butch Evans wrote: More functionality from a Cisco? You MUST be joking. MT (and ImageStream for that matter) can do WAY more than Cisco for a fraction of the price. Both will offer a much better firewall option, infinitely better QOS cap

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Chris Gotstein
12.4 Service provider has IPv6 and OSPFv3. On 7/3/2010 8:09 PM, Ray Burkholder wrote: I believe that IOS 12.4.25c is the latest version for the 7200VXR series. It's stable, been running it for quite some time. Depending on what you will be doing with this router, will depend on what feature s

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 05:12:14PM -0700, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 07:32:48PM -0400, Scott Berkman wrote: > > I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. > > It's around 25 years old (work started in 1985, first standards > published in 1988) an

RE: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Ray Burkholder
> > I believe that IOS 12.4.25c is the latest version for the 7200VXR > series. It's stable, been running it for quite some time. Depending > on > what you will be doing with this router, will depend on what feature > set > you'll want. I typically use the Service Provider IOS with IPSEC, 3DES

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Chris Gotstein
Do you plan on getting full BGP routes from your upstream? If so, go with 1Gb of ram on the NPE G1. I believe that IOS 12.4.25c is the latest version for the 7200VXR series. It's stable, been running it for quite some time. Depending on what you will be doing with this router, will depend o

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Alan Bryant
Ok, scenario time. I've found a 7206VXR\NPE-G1 w/ 256MB RAM. It has the 3 onboard GigE ports and a PA-POS-1OC3 card in it that should be fine for our OC-3 connection. We need a total of 5 Ethernet ports, not necessarily all GigE. I found this card, PA-2FE-TX that would give us 2 10/100 ports. Ev

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/3/2010 17:12, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: > On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 07:32:48PM -0400, Scott Berkman wrote: >> I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. > > It's around 25 years old (work started in 1985, first standards > published in 1988) and we now have a ratified

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 07:32:48PM -0400, Scott Berkman wrote: > I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. It's around 25 years old (work started in 1985, first standards published in 1988) and we now have a ratified 100G Ethernet standard. Much of it is

RE: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Scott Berkman
I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. -Scott -Original Message- From: Mike [mailto:mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 4:11 PM To: Alan Bryant Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection Alan Bryant wrote: > > I'm

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-03 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 10:42:55PM +0200, Mans Nilsson wrote: > aut-num:AS31337 > as-name:ELEET-AS > descr: ELEET Network > descr: Location: Sweden > > (Story is, IIRC, that adjacent number was assigned initially, but the > confirmation mail was answered with "Ca

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 12:22 -0700, Mike wrote: > Mikrotik is great at lower end stuff where you have ethernet interfaces. > Real POS OC-3 however, ain't in it's repertory and would not be what I > would choose to route at those interfaces/speeds.

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-03 Thread Owen DeLong
Vanity ASNs are a horrible idea, IMHO... Unless you want WIPO to come in and start applying UDRP to IP addresses and ASNs, I suggest this be avoided. Owen On Jul 3, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Mans Nilsson wrote: > Subject: RE: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Date: Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 04:40:07PM > -0500 Quoti

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-03 Thread Mans Nilsson
Subject: RE: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Date: Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 04:40:07PM -0500 Quoting Aaron Wendel (aa...@wholesaleinternet.net): > I sent an inquiry in to ARIN yesterday for a certain ASN that was available > and was told that management won't allow them to issue requested numbers. :( RIPE d

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Mike
Alan Bryant wrote: I'm just trying to see what options there are and make the decision off of that. If Cisco or Juniper is the only way, then so be it. I just want to be sure. The real issue is that these legacy telco interfaces are just expensive, straight up, and being forced to use the

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Christopher Young
Mike, Check out http://www.usedcisco.com they have some good prices. -- Christopher Young InterMetro Communications NOC Department imc...@intermetro.net 866-4IMCNOC, (866) 446-2662 805-433-8000 Main 805-433-0050 Direct 805-433-2589 Mobile -Original Message- From: Alan Bryant Date: Sa

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Alan Bryant
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mike wrote: > Mikrotik is great at lower end stuff where you have ethernet interfaces. > Real POS OC-3 however, ain't in it's repertory and would not be what I would > choose to route at those interfaces/speeds. However, if you must 'connect > mikrotik to oc-3', you

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/3/10 12:22 PM, Mike wrote: > Alan Bryant wrote: >> I haven't seen much traffic on this list about Mikrotik or RouterOS, >> but I thought it was worth a shot as a last ditch effort to get this >> going. >> >> Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router >> running Mikrotik's

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Mike
Alan Bryant wrote: I haven't seen much traffic on this list about Mikrotik or RouterOS, but I thought it was worth a shot as a last ditch effort to get this going. Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router running Mikrotik's RouterOS? I have searched google extensively wit

Re: Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/3/10 10:43 AM, Alan Bryant wrote: > I haven't seen much traffic on this list about Mikrotik or RouterOS, > but I thought it was worth a shot as a last ditch effort to get this > going. > > Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router > running Mikrotik's RouterOS? I have s

Mikrotik & OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Alan Bryant
I haven't seen much traffic on this list about Mikrotik or RouterOS, but I thought it was worth a shot as a last ditch effort to get this going. Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router running Mikrotik's RouterOS? I have searched google extensively with varying phrases and

Re: XO feedback

2010-07-03 Thread Net
Thanks for the feedback Jared. On 7/3/10, Jared Geiger wrote: > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Adam Rothschild > >> wrote: > >> Here in the New York Metro, XO's collocation offering is pretty solid. >> No frills, but competently managed, and offered under a reasonable >> pricing model for retai

Re: XO feedback

2010-07-03 Thread todd glassey
On 7/2/2010 10:47 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Adam Rothschild > >> wrote: How many co-lo centers do they operate and where are they ? - Curiosity on my part. Todd >> Here in the New York Metro, XO's collocation offering is pretty solid. >> No frills, but competent