Re: Pacific Northwest downtime?

2010-08-12 Thread Jeff Walter
On 8/12/2010 11:42 PM, Matthew Petach wrote: There are definite reports that it affected connectivity to some portions of Yahoo for some comcast users in the Bay Area as well. Matt *offers a new roll of duct tape to Comcast for their routers* Just got confirmation from GBLX... Router seized.

Re: Pacific Northwest downtime?

2010-08-12 Thread Matthew Petach
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Jeff Walter wrote: > We contacted GBLX and the issue was resolved shortly thereafter.  Last time > this happened one of their internal routers hung and someone kicked it.  No > idea if this was the same type of issue. > > In this case, more that just traffic betwe

Re: Cost of transit and options in APAC

2010-08-12 Thread Franck Martin
It always amaze me how the word de-regulated is so misused. When there is a monopoly the regulation is in fact very very light: Acme co is the monopoly and government cash in dividends/license fees and just check they don't do anything really silly. When there is competition this is when you ha

Re: Pacific Northwest downtime?

2010-08-12 Thread John A. Kilpatrick
On Aug 12, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Jeff Walter wrote: > In this case, more that just traffic between us and Comcast was affected, at > least according to a friend of mine who's on Comcast. Yeah, things were wonky for a while. Like the application for programming my Harmony One couldn't contact Log

Re: Pacific Northwest downtime?

2010-08-12 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Did you wait 30 seconds before you plugged it back in? Jeff On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM, John A. Kilpatrick wrote: > > Yeah, I saw it too.  My traceroute was dying at an IP belonging to Global > Crossing and the DNS looked like it was at 11 Great Oaks.  I called Comcast > to report it, bu

Re: Pacific Northwest downtime?

2010-08-12 Thread Jeff Walter
We contacted GBLX and the issue was resolved shortly thereafter. Last time this happened one of their internal routers hung and someone kicked it. No idea if this was the same type of issue. In this case, more that just traffic between us and Comcast was affected, at least according to a fri

Re: Pacific Northwest downtime?

2010-08-12 Thread John A. Kilpatrick
Yeah, I saw it too. My traceroute was dying at an IP belonging to Global Crossing and the DNS looked like it was at 11 Great Oaks. I called Comcast to report it, but they just kept saying I should reboot my modem. On Aug 12, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Ashoat Tevosyan wrote: > Never mind, back up! Ap

Re: Pacific Northwest downtime?

2010-08-12 Thread Ashoat Tevosyan
Never mind, back up! Apparently there was a problem at Comcast. Thanks, Ashoat On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Ashoat Tevosyan wrote: > Hey guys, > > Anybody else in the Pacific Northwest notice some sites down? I'm using > Comcast here at home, and I can't reach anything over at Hurricane Ele

Pacific Northwest downtime?

2010-08-12 Thread Ashoat Tevosyan
Hey guys, Anybody else in the Pacific Northwest notice some sites down? I'm using Comcast here at home, and I can't reach anything over at Hurricane Electric. I can confirm that HE is reachable from the University of Washington. Thanks, Ashoat

Re: Cost of transit and options in APAC

2010-08-12 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Benson Schliesser wrote: Further, how does the situation compare to past examples like Europe? Countries in Europe are all in different phases of competition and pricing. There is at least 10x difference in transit prices across Europe, with central and northern Europe b

Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software TCP Denial of Service Vulnerability

2010-08-12 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Software TCP Denial of Service Vulnerability Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20100812-tcp http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20100812-tcp.shtml Revision 1.0 For Public Release 2010 August 12 2130 UTC (GMT

Re: Cost of transit and options in APAC

2010-08-12 Thread Franck Martin
+10 Once you pass a threshold of affordability (by breaking the monopoly), then the network use explodes and other issues can be worked out by more or less by consumer pressure (and economies of scale)... You need to reach "Packet Storm" level. - Original Message - From: "Patrick W. Gi

Reminder: DENOG 2 Call for Participation and Papers

2010-08-12 Thread Marcus Stoegbauer
DENOG 2 - Call for Participation and Papers The second meeting of the German Network Operators Group (DENOG) will be held in Frankfurt, Germany on the 4th of November 2010. We are pleased to hereby invite applications for presentations or lightning talks to be held at this event. General Informat

Re: Cost of transit and options in APAC

2010-08-12 Thread Benson Schliesser
On 12 Aug 10, at 7:26 AM, Dorian Kim wrote: >> Sadly, I have no first-hand knowledge of these costs. How does in-country >> transport compare to trans-Pacific transport cost? (i.e. on a per Mbps per >> kilometer or similar metric) I assume it's cheaper in-country / in-region >> compared to t

Re: Cost of transit and options in APAC

2010-08-12 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:53:18PM -0700, Joel Jaeggli wrote: >> On 8/11/10 12:29 PM, Franck Martin wrote: >>> Nice to see this change >>> >>> APAC has been obliged to pay the cost to peer with the US (long >>> distance links are expensive)

Re: Two /8s allocated to APNIC from IANA (49/8 and 101/8)]

2010-08-12 Thread Mikel Jimenez Fernandez
Good news for IPV6 fans! > Forwarding on behalf of APNIC. > > > > _ > > Two /8s allocated to APNIC from IANA (49/8 and 101/8) > _ > > > Dear colleagues > > The information in this announcement is

Re: Policy Based Routing advice

2010-08-12 Thread Rogelio
Hmmm... The reason I recommended that is because I think I remember reading somewhere that the "set ip" command does not work on point-to-point interfaces. The outbound interface in your config has a /30 assigned to it so maybe it is seeing it as a p-t-p interface? Do you have a "less preferred

Two /8s allocated to APNIC from IANA (49/8 and 101/8)]

2010-08-12 Thread Leslie Nobile
Forwarding on behalf of APNIC. _ Two /8s allocated to APNIC from IANA (49/8 and 101/8) _ Dear colleagues The information in this announcement is to enable the Internet community to update

Re: Policy Based Routing advice

2010-08-12 Thread Jeffrey Pazahanick
A 'debug ip policy' should show if it's hitting or not... IP: s=30.0.0.1 (Ethernet0/0/1), d=40.0.0.7, len 100,FIB flow policy match IP: s=30.0.0.1 (Ethernet0/0/1), d=40.0.0.7, len 100,FIB PR flow accelerated! IP: s=30.0.0.1 (Ethernet0/0/1), d=40.0.0.7, g=10.0.0.8, len 100, FIB policy routed

Springnet Underground

2010-08-12 Thread Justin Shore
Does anyone have any experience with the Springnet Underground in Springfield, MO? In case people don't know it's a working limestone mine. In the areas that have already been mined close to the entrance, they've sold or rented out space between the rock pillars that hold up the mine roof. T

Re: Policy Based Routing advice

2010-08-12 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
I dont' think this will work. Here is the formal description of "set interface" from cisco.com: This action specifies that the packet is forwarded out of the local interface. The interface must be a Layer 3 interface (no switchports), and the destination address in the packet must lie within the I

Re: Policy Based Routing advice

2010-08-12 Thread Rogelio
Have you tried "set interface" instead of "set ip"? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: > I did try an extended ACL and had the same result. > The way I know that it's not working is that I see these packets arriving on > a wrong interface on the firewall

Re: Policy Based Routing advice

2010-08-12 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
I did try an extended ACL and had the same result. The way I know that it's not working is that I see these packets arriving on a wrong interface on the firewall and therefor being dropped. I actually had to open a CR with Cisco and they verified the config and said nothing is wrong with it. They a

Re: Policy Based Routing advice

2010-08-12 Thread Bill Fehring
Andrey, It looks like you're doing everything right here so this might seem like a dumb question, but how sure are you that it's not working? In my experience on the 4500, 6500, 3560/3750, those ACL/route-map counters sometimes don't work because of CEF and friends, and at best they count number

Re: Chunghwa Telecom Tech Support Reg.

2010-08-12 Thread Randy Bush
> Thanks a lot for your immediate reply. I tried calling the number you > provided, that does not lead to "Chunghwa Telecom" in Taiwan. However, > it leads to some other organization and they are unable to understand > when I speak in English :-( try mandarin randy

Re: Policy Based Routing advice

2010-08-12 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
I bit more explanation: 172.25/16 is a hop away and the packets with that source IP will enter on Gi2/6 and need to exit Gi2/14. So it goes like that: 172.25/16 is vlan25 on the student router Gi0/1 has ip address 192.168.250.2 on the student router default route is towards 192.168.250.1 on the st

Re: IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Leland Vandervort
Well, Frankly our "culture" is very much open source, so if we can find something along those lines, then it would be preferred. (Hence looking at OpenSolaris and ILB). -- having said that, we do have both F5 and Foundry kit here, but it's all pre-IPv6 so doesn't have the support built in. No

Re: IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Marco Hogewoning
Brocade basically sucks when it comes to loadbalancing IPv6, the old serveriron platform is EOL and a complete mess which offers some IPv6 support, but not much. The new ADX platform seems to be in a pre-alfa stage at the moment. So normally I would say stand clear, however we do run a (larger)

Re: IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Leland Vandervort
Hi Owen, The DSR address is indeed on a loopback in our case. loLink encap:Local Loopback inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host inet6 addr: ::x:::xx/128 Scope:Global The mystery continues... Leland On 12 Aug 2010, at 18:28, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On A

Re: IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 12, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Xavier Beaudouin wrote: > Hi Leland, > > Le 12 août 2010 à 15:11, Leland Vandervort a écrit : > >> OpenSolaris ILB is open solution ;) >> >> but yea, that's what we've started looking at -- hence LVM / HAProxy as >> well.. (though LVM is IPv4 only, and HAProxy is

Policy Based Routing advice

2010-08-12 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
Hey all. I'm trying to setup a routing policy on a cat4503-E with Sup6-E and for some reason I can't see it taking effect. I'm definitely sourcing packets from 172.25.0.0/16 (the test machine had 172.25.24.25 address). For some reason the packets still go out towards the default gateway instead of

Re: net-neutrality

2010-08-12 Thread JC Dill
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:23:01 CDT, Jeff Harper said: This is kind of like one person saying they're not going to listen to a radio station anymore. "And the only reason I'm singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar situation, or

Re: off-topic: summary on Internet traffic growth History

2010-08-12 Thread William McCall
VBNS is part of VzB. On 8/11/10, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Randy Whitney wrote: > >> On 8/11/2010 3:10 PM, Chris Boyd wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 1:13 PM, John Lee wrote: >>> MCI bought MFS-Datanet because MCI had the customers and MFS-Datanet had

Re: IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Rob Gallagher
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:32:25 +0200 Leland Vandervort wrote: > I'm looking at server load balancing for IPv6 and specifically need > DSR (direct server return). Additionally, I need to support both TCP > and UDP. IPVS has had IPv6 support for a while: http://www.mindbasket.com/ipvs/ We're usin

Re: IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Mohacsi Janos
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Simon Perreault wrote: On 2010-08-12 08:32, Leland Vandervort wrote: I'm looking at server load balancing for IPv6 and specifically need DSR (direct server return). Additionally, I need to support both TCP and UDP. This is easily done with OpenBSD. See here for starte

Re: IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Leland Vandervort
On 12 Aug 2010, at 15:19, Xavier Beaudouin wrote: > >> In the case of ILB, I'm not convinced that it's a problem with the LB >> itself, but rather the idiosyncrasies of ND in IPv6 that is causing the >> problem.. but I may be wrong... at any rate, something's amiss ... > > Maybe on some setup

Re: IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Xavier Beaudouin
Hi Leland, Le 12 août 2010 à 15:11, Leland Vandervort a écrit : > OpenSolaris ILB is open solution ;) > > but yea, that's what we've started looking at -- hence LVM / HAProxy as > well.. (though LVM is IPv4 only, and HAProxy is NAT only for IPv6) > > does relayd support UDP as well as TCP or i

Re: IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Leland Vandervort
OpenSolaris ILB is open solution ;) but yea, that's what we've started looking at -- hence LVM / HAProxy as well.. (though LVM is IPv4 only, and HAProxy is NAT only for IPv6) does relayd support UDP as well as TCP or is it layer7 only like HAProxy ? In the case of ILB, I'm not convinced that it

Re: IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Xavier Beaudouin
Hi Leland, Seems that hardware vendors doesn't like IPv6... for load balancing. I had a look to relayd from OpenBSD, and it seems this can be used a LoadBalancing with DSR... Even if they don't recommand this ... Maybe the is is the time to move from hardware / closed solutions to open ones..

Re: IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Simon Perreault
On 2010-08-12 08:32, Leland Vandervort wrote: > I'm looking at server load balancing for IPv6 and specifically need > DSR (direct server return). Additionally, I need to support both TCP > and UDP. This is easily done with OpenBSD. See here for starters: http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articl

IPv6 Server Load Balancing - DSR

2010-08-12 Thread Leland Vandervort
Dear Colleagues, I've been scratching my head over this for the past couple of months and have come up with blanks, and several weeks of scouring various resources on the net have not yielded anything more fruitful. I'm looking at server load balancing for IPv6 and specifically need DSR (direc

Re: Cost of transit and options in APAC

2010-08-12 Thread Dorian Kim
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 05:41:16PM -0500, Benson Schliesser wrote: > > On 11 Aug 10, at 5:15 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > > >> Obviously I can't speak for the providers in question, but I'd guess > >> that the cost for transit in AP is strongly related to the cost of > >> long-haul transport. > > >

Re: off-topic: summary on Internet traffic growth History

2010-08-12 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
N3 = new network nodes, BIPP wasn't that great a name either. The ASN was always 3561. jy On 12/08/2010, at 8:20 AM, Benson Schliesser wrote: > > On 11 Aug 10, at 2:10 PM, Chris Boyd wrote: > >> My recollection is that Worldcom bought out MFS. UUnet was a later >> acquisition by the Worldc

Re: off-topic: summary on Internet traffic growth History

2010-08-12 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
MCI and BT had a long courtship. BT left MCI standing at the altar after neighborhoodMCI (a consumer last mile play) announced $400M in losses, twice. WorldCom swooped in after that. jy On 12/08/2010, at 12:12 PM, jim deleskie wrote: > CIP went with BT (Concert) I still clearly remember the

Re: Chunghwa Telecom Tech Support Reg.

2010-08-12 Thread Harry Strongburg
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:09:02PM +0530, Natarajan Balasubramanian wrote: > Hi Yasir, > Thanks a lot for your immediate reply. I tried calling the number you > provided, that does not lead to "Chunghwa Telecom" in Taiwan. However, it > leads to some other organization and they are unable to unde