With all the different webmail systems, it seems unlikely to me (though I
definitely wouldn't say impossible) that bots are spamming through your
webmail (unless you work for gmail, hotmail, etc. and are an attractive
enough target that it made sense to code a bot to automate utilizing your
You have not specified what sort of settings you are using (PSK vs
CERTS, Algos , route based VPN etc)
However something along the following lines is working fine for me:
set ike gateway ** address 172.16.250.1 Main outgoing-
interface ethernet0/8 preshare ** proposal
On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 09:18:54PM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:
Anti-spam is a never ending arms race.
That's really the question at hand here -- whether or not there's any
benefit to continuing the never ending arms race game. Some people
think there is. Others question whether anything is
On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Brett Frankenberger wrote:
On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 09:18:54PM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:
Getting rid of the vast majority of open relays and open proxies didn't
solve the spam problem, but there'd be more ways to send spam if those
methods were still generally
Having worked in past @ 3 large ISPs with residential customer pools I can tell
you we saw a very direct drop in spam issues when we blocked port 25.
-jim
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On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 10:38:15PM +, deles...@gmail.com wrote:
Having worked in past @ 3 large ISPs with residential customer pools
I can tell you we saw a very direct drop in spam issues when we
blocked port 25.
No one is disputing that. Or, at least, I'm not disputing that. I'm
The theory behind closing open relays, blocking port 25, etc., seems to
be:
(a) That will make it harder on spammers, and that will reduce spam --
some of the spammers will find other other ways to inject spam, but
some will just stop, OR
(b) Eventually, we'll find technical solutions to
No. It'd just increase a LOT, astronomically.
Something on the lines of turning a firehose of petrol on a wildfire
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
i suspect that, if we opened smtp relays again, unblocked 25 for
consumer chokeband, etc., total spam received
No. It'd just increase a LOT, astronomically.
i suspect that, if we opened smtp relays again, unblocked 25 for
consumer chokeband, etc., total spam received would likely increase a
bit. but my guess, and i mean guess, is that the limiting parameter
could well be how many bots the perps can
Hmm, transaction id, security code, a 21 minute hold time with GoDaddy, and
two dozen Danica Patrick pictures and I am quickly realizing that this glue
is going to be much more costly than the ~$8 transfer fee.
-Ryan
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Lou Katz l...@metron.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
i keep hearing that, but am having a hard time finding supporting data.
Might see the stats from http://cbl.abuseat.org - by AS. Then compare
the stats on a non port 25 filtered network (they have stats by AS) to
stats on a network
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