Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

2011-02-20 Thread Zed Usser
--- On Sun, 2/20/11, Owen DeLong wrote: > Oh, I expect CGN/LSN to be connectivity of last resort, no > question. Ok, so let's just deploy it and not even try to fix it? Even when it is a required functionality for IPv6-only hosts to access the IPv4 domain? That'll go down real well with end-us

Re: Switch with 10 Gig and GRE support in hardware.

2011-02-20 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
On 2011-02-18 15:37, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: I am looking for a switch with a minimum of 12 X 10GE ports on it, >> that can has routing protocol support and can do GRE in hardware. Yes, Juniper EX4500. Interesting: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos10.4/topics/reference/general/ex-seri

Re: Switch with 10 Gig and GRE support in hardware.

2011-02-20 Thread Greg Whynott
Extreme 650, but not sure of the gre in hardware req. These are awesome switches, bgp support, VSS like clustering, and many other nice features. G - Original Message - From: Łukasz Bromirski [mailto:luk...@bromirski.net] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 10:04 AM To: nanog@nanog.or

Off list contact for Quadranet

2011-02-20 Thread Thomas York
If the network contact at Quadranet could contact me off list, I'd appreciate it. This is concerning the continual spamming of a proxy server I run from multiple hosts at Quadranet. Thomas York smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Software Bugs

2011-02-20 Thread Kasper Adel
Good Day, I have always been exposed to one vendor only so i can never compare but I am curious to know what every one here have seen in their lives on the below: 1) Which vendor has more bugs than others, what are the top 3 2) Who is doing a better job fixing them 3) What do you consider is a go

Re: Software Bugs

2011-02-20 Thread Kasper Adel
Good Day, I have always been exposed to one vendor only so i can never compare but I am curious to know what every one here have seen in their lives on the below: 1) Which vendor has more bugs than others, what are the top 3 ? 2) Who is doing a better job fixing/handling these bugs overall 3)

VZW LTE provisioning

2011-02-20 Thread Jay Ashworth
Is there anyone on the list who can comment, on- or off-list, for-attribution or not, on what kind of job Verizon Wireless has done provisioning the data backbone for their new LTE "4G"[1] rollout? Given the fact that it is at 700MHz and will therefore have *substantially* better building penetrat

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

2011-02-20 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 20, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Zed Usser wrote: > --- On Sun, 2/20/11, Owen DeLong wrote: >> Oh, I expect CGN/LSN to be connectivity of last resort, no >> question. > Ok, so let's just deploy it and not even try to fix it? Even when it is a > required functionality for IPv6-only hosts to access

Re: Graph Utils (Open-Source)

2011-02-20 Thread Max Pierson
>Is scaling of rrdtool still a problem for you with rrdcached? This helps on some of my network/server related graphs, but this data is not exactly time based (well timestamps are recorded, but not at cyclic intervals). Plus the dataset is extremely large (100's of millions or rows already in mySQ

Re: Switch with 10 Gig and GRE support in hardware.

2011-02-20 Thread Tammy A Wisdom
Ugh they're nice except for the power supplies becoming a fireball & they're high dos rate. Ymmv Tammy Sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2011, at 8:46, Greg Whynott wrote: > Extreme 650, but not sure of the gre in hardware req. These are awesome > switches, bgp support, VSS like clustering,

Re: Switch with 10 Gig and GRE support in hardware.

2011-02-20 Thread Tammy A. Wisdom
Gah that should have read doa rate. @#$@#$ing autocorrect. sorry about that. - Original Message - > From: "Tammy A Wisdom" > To: "Greg Whynott" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 11:22:27 AM > Subject: Re: Switch with 10 Gig and GRE support in hardware. > > Ugh they

Re: Software Bugs

2011-02-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:05:44 +0200, Kasper Adel said: (Disclaimer - I've never filed a bug report with Cisco or Juniper, but I've spent 3 decades filing bugs with almost everybody else in the computer industry, it seems... Questions like the ones you asked are almost always pointless unless the a

RE: Switch with 10 Gig and GRE support in hardware.

2011-02-20 Thread George Bonser
> On 2/18/11 6:30 AM, "Matt Newsom" wrote: > > >I am looking for a switch with a minimum of 12 X 10GE > >ports on it, that can has routing protocol support and can do GRE in > >hardware. Does anyone have a suggestion that might fit. Keep in mind I > am > >looking for something in

RE: Software Bugs

2011-02-20 Thread George Bonser
> > 2) Who is doing a better job fixing them > > Again, see the above discussion of severity. If a vendor is good about > fixing the real show-stoppers in a matter of hours or days, but has a > huge backlog of fixes for minor things, is that better or worse than a > vendor that fixes half of bot

Re: Software Bugs

2011-02-20 Thread Kasper Adel
Thanks Valdis. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:43 PM, wrote: > On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:05:44 +0200, Kasper Adel said: > > (Disclaimer - I've never filed a bug report with Cisco or Juniper, > but I've spent 3 decades filing bugs with almost everybody else in > the computer industry, it seems... Questio

Re: [dnsext] zone cut semantics

2011-02-20 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Jim Reid" > On 21 Feb 2011, at 01:44, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > > So: people-who-do: is my supposition/assertion above correct? If it is, > > is it reasonable to draw from it the inference that I do (IE, that Jim is > > correct and Brandon's not)? > > It's mo

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...)

2011-02-20 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Leigh Porter wrote: > ... > > IPv6 only hosts are a good thing to speed up v6 adoption. Nothing like a good > carrot to get the donkeys moving. > > -- > Leigh > Well, speaking of carrots...a few years back we _did_ have http://ipv6experiment.com/ though, unfortu

Re: Graph Utils (Open-Source)

2011-02-20 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Max Pierson wrote: > Anyone out there using something other than rrdtool for creating graphs?? I > have a project that will need a trend taken, and unfortunately rrdtool > doesn't fit the bill. All of the scripting, data collection, > database archival, etc will be

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

2011-02-20 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Zed Usser wrote: > Basic Internet services will work (web browsing, email, Facebook, > Youtube,...), but: > - Less torrenting > - Less Netflix watching > - Less FTP downloads > - Less video streaming in general (webcams, etc.) > You might take a hit on online gami