RE: New tsunami advisory warning - Japan

2011-03-28 Thread Gavin Pearce
*yawn*. A foot and a half isn't going to be all *that* bad Sorry to continue off topic: Try to imagine ... a temporary very high tide, rather than a cresting wave. In addition to the height, it's the wave-length you have to take into account. Tsunami's rarely become towering breaking waves.

Re: Creating an IPv6 addressing plan for end users

2011-03-28 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 3/23/11 6:14 AM, Hammer wrote: Nathalie, As an end customer (not a carrier) over in ARIN land I purchased a /48 about a year ago for our future IPv6 needs. We have 4 different Internet touchpoints (two per carrier) all rated at about 1Gbps. Recently, both carriers told us that the

Re: Paul Baran, RIP.

2011-03-28 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/032811-paul-baran-packet-switching-obit.html Oh hell; now we'll *never* lay the ghost of packet switching was invented to create a nuclear-war-survivable network. [ reads obit ] See?

Re: Paul Baran, RIP.

2011-03-28 Thread Lucy Lynch
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/032811-paul-baran-packet-switching-obit.html Oh hell; now we'll *never* lay the ghost of packet switching was invented to create a

Re: New tsunami advisory warning - Japan

2011-03-28 Thread Michael Thomas
Gavin Pearce wrote: *yawn*. A foot and a half isn't going to be all *that* bad Sorry to continue off topic: Try to imagine ... a temporary very high tide, rather than a cresting wave. In addition to the height, it's the wave-length you have to take into account. Tsunami's rarely become

RE: New tsunami advisory warning - Japan

2011-03-28 Thread Gavin Pearce
You guys forget a lot of folks on the list are working on cabling ships and off shore platforms, its not all about what happens on shore in this industry. Valid point ... however in deep ocean, these things are pretty imperceptible. The effect on ships on the surface are nominal, and off

Re: New tsunami advisory warning - Japan

2011-03-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Gavin Pearce wrote: You guys forget a lot of folks on the list are working on cabling ships and off shore platforms, its not all about what happens on shore in this industry. Valid point ... however in deep ocean, these things are pretty imperceptible.

Re: New tsunami advisory warning - Japan

2011-03-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Mar 28, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Gavin Pearce wrote: You guys forget a lot of folks on the list are working on cabling ships and off shore platforms, its not all about what happens on shore in this industry. Valid point ...

RE: New tsunami advisory warning - Japan

2011-03-28 Thread Gavin Pearce
JCG ship in the the open ocean. Impressive video. The wave height and speed would suggest shallower waters, and that likely the ship was close to land mass when the video was filmed rather than open ocean (in the sense of being far out to sea). Not being there of course I could easily be

Re: New tsunami advisory warning - Japan

2011-03-28 Thread TR Shaw
On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Mar 28, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Gavin Pearce wrote: You guys forget a lot of folks on the list are working on cabling ships and off shore platforms, its not all about what

Re: New tsunami advisory warning - Japan

2011-03-28 Thread Pete Carah
On 03/28/2011 01:22 PM, Gavin Pearce wrote: JCG ship in the the open ocean. Impressive video. The wave height and speed would suggest shallower waters, and that likely the ship was close to land mass when the video was filmed rather than open ocean (in the sense of being far out to sea). Not

Re: Paul Baran, RIP.

2011-03-28 Thread Paul Graydon
On 03/28/2011 03:14 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Roland Dobbinsrdobb...@arbor.net http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/032811-paul-baran-packet-switching-obit.html Oh hell; now we'll *never* lay the ghost of packet switching was invented to create a

Re: Regional AS model

2011-03-28 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 28, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Dave Temkin wrote: On 3/27/11 2:53 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Mar 25, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: Single AS worldwide is fine with or without a backbone. Only if you want to make use of ugly ugly BGP hacks on your routers, or, you don't care

Re: Regional AS model

2011-03-28 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Mar 28, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Mar 28, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Dave Temkin wrote: On 3/27/11 2:53 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Mar 25, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: Single AS worldwide is fine with or without a backbone. Only if you want to make use of ugly ugly

IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Wil Schultz
I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. A couple of concerns that come to mind are: 1) www.domain.com and ipv6.domain.com are serving the exact same content. Typical SEO standards are to only serve good content from a single domain so information

Re: Regional AS model

2011-03-28 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: I agree that allowas-in is not as bad as default, but, I still think that having one AS per routing policy makes a hell of a lot more sense and there's really not much downside to having an ASN for each independent site.

Re: New tsunami advisory warning - Japan

2011-03-28 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Michael Thomas wrote: Gavin Pearce wrote: *yawn*. A foot and a half isn't going to be all *that* bad Sorry to continue off topic: Try to imagine ... a temporary very high tide, rather than a cresting wave. In addition to the height, it's the wave-length you have to take into account.

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:18:30 -0700 Wil Schultz wschu...@bsdboy.com wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. A couple of concerns that come to mind are: 1) www.domain.com and ipv6.domain.com are serving the exact same content. Typical SEO

Re: Regional AS model

2011-03-28 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 28, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Mar 28, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Mar 28, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Dave Temkin wrote: On 3/27/11 2:53 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Mar 25, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: Single AS worldwide is fine with or without

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Wil Schultz wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. A couple of concerns that come to mind are: 1) www.domain.com and ipv6.domain.com are serving the exact same content. Typical SEO standards are to only

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Karl Auer
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 15:55 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: If you're worried about SEO, go with native IPv6 and then deploy s for WWW.domain.foo. Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a tunnel would be fine, too. Regards, K. --

RE: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a tunnel would be fine, too. I believe the concern is that the higher latency of a tunnel would impact SEO rankings.

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread TR Shaw
On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Karl Auer wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 15:55 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: If you're worried about SEO, go with native IPv6 and then deploy s for WWW.domain.foo. Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a tunnel would be fine, too. So why does www A

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread TR Shaw
On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote: Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a tunnel would be fine, too. I believe the concern is that the higher latency of a tunnel would impact SEO rankings. True but you live with what you can get acces to ;-) Tom

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Wil Schultz
On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Wil Schultz wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. A couple of concerns that come to mind are: 1) www.domain.com and ipv6.domain.com are serving the exact

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Nicholas Meredith
I would be getting ipv6 connectivity, adding an unknown record such as ipv6 or www6; but not www, and do as many comparative ipv4 vs ipv6 tracerouts from as many route servers as possible. Then you will have the data you need to actually make an informed decision rather than just guessing how

Re: The state-level attack on the SSL CA security model

2011-03-28 Thread Crist Clark
On 3/25/2011 at 2:21 AM, Florian Weimer fwei...@bfk.de wrote: * Roland Dobbins: On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: Disclosure devalues information. I think this case is different, given the perception of the cert as a 'thing' to be bartered. Private keys have been

RE: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
I would be getting ipv6 connectivity, adding an unknown record such as ipv6 or www6; but not www, and do as many comparative ipv4 vs ipv6 tracerouts from as many route servers as possible. Then you will have the data you need to actually make an informed decision rather than just guessing

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Nicholas Meredith
Why do you even need a record to do that? Just do a traceroute to the v6 address. The temporary record seems to do nothing useful in your proposed procedure. Easiest hack to test site usability: Modify your hosts file. Don't even publish the record in DNS until you're ready.

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 28, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Karl Auer wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 15:55 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: If you're worried about SEO, go with native IPv6 and then deploy s for WWW.domain.foo. Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a tunnel would be fine, too. He was worried about the

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 28, 2011, at 4:20 PM, TR Shaw wrote: On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Karl Auer wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 15:55 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: If you're worried about SEO, go with native IPv6 and then deploy s for WWW.domain.foo. Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 03:18:30PM -0700, Wil Schultz wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. I don't run a web site where SEO is a top priority, so I don't track such things. Quite simply, who's crawling on IPv6? That

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Ryan Rawdon
On Mar 28, 2011, at 9:50 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: In a message written on Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 03:18:30PM -0700, Wil Schultz wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. I don't run a web site where SEO is a top priority, so I don't track

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Wil Schultz wschu...@bsdboy.com wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. A couple of concerns that come to mind are: 1) www.domain.com and ipv6.domain.com are serving the exact same content. Typical SEO

Anyone have info on the Dallas Infomart power outage?

2011-03-28 Thread Tim Connolly
Anyone have details?

Re: Paul Baran, RIP.

2011-03-28 Thread John Kristoff
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Oh hell; now we'll *never* lay the ghost of packet switching was invented to create a nuclear-war-survivable network. Maybe you're confusing the invention of packet switching with the creation of the ARPANET?

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Fred Baker
On Mar 29, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Wil Schultz wrote: So far the consensus is to run dual stack natively. While this definitely is the way things should be set up in the end, I can see some valid reasons to run ipv4 and ipv6 on separate domains for a while before final configuration. For