RPKI in the real world: using MaxLength

2011-04-20 Thread Alex Band
The RIPE NCC is running their Resource Certification system for a couple of months now, and we've got quite a number of prefixes covered by ROAs in the repository by now. So I decided to have a look at how people are creating their ROAs and in particular how the 'Maximum Length' feature is

Re: eigrp set next hop

2011-04-20 Thread David Swafford
If the number of prefixes are small, and your on Cisco gear, take a look at IP SLA as an option for manipulating static routes. Basically it'll allow you to setup a probe, and based on the result of the probe, dynamically populate a given static route in the routing table or not. David. On

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Geoff Huston
On 20/04/2011, at 11:43 AM, Martin Millnert wrote: Either way, there certainly IS a place in networks for Toredo services, since SO MANY devices for the CPE end of the connectivity equation still have zero support for IPv6. If you are prepared to tolerate a connection failure rate in the

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Owen DeLong
The better solution to that problem is to get additional 6to4 relays deployed closer to India. Perhaps encouraging Tata to take some leadership in that area, for example. I do not believe that the opening of the Comcast relays will harm BGP best path selection for the 6to4 prefix except in

CIsco IOS bug info request

2011-04-20 Thread Eric Parsonage
Hi All, Can anybody point me to a documented case where a bug in Cisco IOS has taken a whole network down ? Regards and thanks in advance Eric Parsonage

Anyone still maintaining altdb.net?

2011-04-20 Thread Bret Palsson
I submitted my objects April 11. the mtrner object needs to be created by the db-admin. I realize this is a volunteer thing. Could I help out or could the people that are helping out look at adding my record? I need to setup some peering relationships. I'd prefer to support open communities

Re: Anyone still maintaining altdb.net?

2011-04-20 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Bret Palsson wrote: I submitted my objects April 11. the mtrner object needs to be created by the db-admin. I realize this is a volunteer thing. Could I help out or could the people that are helping out look at adding my record? I need to setup some peering

[NANOG-announce] NANOG 52 Early Bird Registration ends 04/23/2011 -- Register now!

2011-04-20 Thread David Meyer
Looking forward to seeing you all in Denver. Dave (for the NANOG PC) ___ NANOG-announce mailing list nanog-annou...@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce

RE: CIsco IOS bug info request

2011-04-20 Thread Erik Bais
Hi Eric, You might want to read up on : http://labs.ripe.net/Members/erik/ripe-ncc-and-duke-university-bgp-experimen t The cisco case involved : http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/products_security_advisory09186a0080b441 1f.shtml Short detail from the Cisco site: This

dishnetwork.com down?

2011-04-20 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
Anyone know what's up with dishnetwork.com? www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com also reports it as being down. --- Andy Ringsmuth 7215 Dorchester Court Lincoln, NE 68521 (402) 304-0083 andyr...@inebraska.com

RE: dishnetwork.com down?

2011-04-20 Thread Christopher Schmitt
It's up for me (Michigan). -Original Message- From: Andy Ringsmuth [mailto:andyr...@inebraska.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:04 AM To: outages; NANOG list Subject: dishnetwork.com down? Anyone know what's up with dishnetwork.com? www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com also reports

Re: Anyone still maintaining altdb.net?

2011-04-20 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:30:44AM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote: On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Bret Palsson wrote: I submitted my objects April 11. the mtrner object needs to be created by the db-admin. I realize this is a volunteer thing. Could I help out or could the people that are helping out look

Re: Anyone still maintaining altdb.net?

2011-04-20 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le mercredi 20 avril 2011 à 10:05 -0500, Richard A Steenbergen a écrit : On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:30:44AM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote: On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Bret Palsson wrote: I submitted my objects April 11. the mtrner object needs to be created by the db-admin. I realize this is a

YOU-TUBE-IN.edge2.SanJose1.Level3.net

2011-04-20 Thread Andreas Petersson
Hi, Not sure this is the right place to ask, but I see lots of pl to www.google.com from my servers. Anyone else that have the same problem? Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 6. ae-92-92.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net

Re: Anyone still maintaining altdb.net?

2011-04-20 Thread Bret Palsson
Really... Please provide support? Below is the response I got on April 11. I don't need a tutorial on how to use the service... #ERROR: New maintainers must be added by a DB administrator. Forwarding new request to db-ad...@altdb.net If it takes weeks for a maintainer record to be added, the

Re: YOU-TUBE-IN.edge2.SanJose1.Level3.net

2011-04-20 Thread Chris Cariffe
yes, from SF - Postini and Google. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Andreas Petersson andr...@sbin.se wrote: Hi, Not sure this is the right place to ask, but I see lots of pl to www.google.com from my servers. Anyone else that have the same problem? Host

[NANOG-announce] NANOG Membership Update

2011-04-20 Thread Steve Gibbard
NANOG Community, As many of you know, NANOG has been taken over by a new membership-based non-profit corporation, NewNOG, Inc. Things are going well so far. The NANOG Intellectual Property transfer is moving along nicely. We've been signing up lots of sponsors for the Denver meeting coming

Re: YOU-TUBE-IN.edge2.SanJose1.Level3.net

2011-04-20 Thread Chris Fanini
We're seeing the same packet loss from SF. 1. ge-0-3.core1.sf2p.weebly.net 0.0% 0.3 3.9 0.3 186.5 19.4 2. vlan118.car2.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net 0.7% 1.1 12.9 0.5 184.4 35.3 3. ae-2-4.bar2.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net 0.0% 27.5 3.9 0.4 63.2 11.8 4.

RE: Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Bhoomi Jain
Mr. Delong, I am simply trying to explain that running a 6to4 on your network is a good idea, however advertising the anycast prefix to other networks has some risk, especially if you're experiencing problems with your Internet peerings. Hopefully Comcast will upgrade its capacity soon. I

Re: Anyone still maintaining altdb.net?

2011-04-20 Thread Steve Rubin
I've waited 9 days which isn't a lot compared to others I've talked with who have waited many weeks or have had no response at all. I also realize people have lives and can't do things on demand when they are a volunteer. However for a service to be a service responsibility must lie

RES: Anyone still maintaining altdb.net?

2011-04-20 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Bret Palsson wrote: I submitted my objects April 11. the mtrner object needs to be created by the db-admin. I realize this is a volunteer thing. Could I help out or could the people that are helping out look at adding my record? I need to setup some peering relationships.

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Brzozowski, John
Doug, I am aware of the drafts you cited earlier, as Mikael mentions below the existence of the same will not result in 6to4 being turned off automatically or immediately. This process will likely take years. Please note the goal here is not to make 6to4 great, like many others we hope to see

Re: CIsco IOS bug info request

2011-04-20 Thread Ingo Flaschberger
Dear Eric, Can anybody point me to a documented case where a bug in Cisco IOS has taken a whole network down ? The ripe experiment is really a great one. A little bit older one, but bigger - took down the whole internet: 1) http://markmail.org/message/nmlyif7oycohcr22 2)

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/20/2011 10:54, Brzozowski, John wrote: Doug, I am aware of the drafts you cited earlier, as Mikael mentions below the existence of the same will not result in 6to4 being turned off automatically or immediately. This process will likely take years. I was going to let this go, but after

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Owen DeLong
1. Yes. 2. Perhaps, but, it's minimal internal risk and the risk it poses to others can be mitigated by those others installing appropriate services on their own networks. 3. We agree here as well. Owen On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Bhoomi Jain wrote: Mr. Delong,

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Owen DeLong
On Apr 20, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Doug Barton wrote: On 04/20/2011 10:54, Brzozowski, John wrote: Doug, I am aware of the drafts you cited earlier, as Mikael mentions below the existence of the same will not result in 6to4 being turned off automatically or immediately. This process will

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Apr 20, 2011, at 3:50 03PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Apr 20, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Doug Barton wrote: On 04/20/2011 10:54, Brzozowski, John wrote: Doug, I am aware of the drafts you cited earlier, as Mikael mentions below the existence of the same will not result in 6to4 being turned off

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/20/2011 12:50, Owen DeLong wrote: Turnning off the servers will not reduce the brokenness of 6to4, it will increase it. Depends on your definitions of increase and broken. If all the relays disappeared tomorrow then the failure rate would be 100%, sure. But that would mean a single,

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Owen DeLong
Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote: On 04/20/2011 12:50, Owen DeLong wrote: Turnning off the servers will not reduce the brokenness of 6to4, it will increase it. Depends on your definitions of increase and broken. If all the relays

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Owen DeLong
The best way to make 6to4 diminish has always been and still remains: Deploy Native IPv6 Now. That's a plan and a necessity at this point, but, execution is still somewhat lagging. Of course, Comcast *is* deploying native IPv6; see, for example,

Re: CIsco IOS bug info request

2011-04-20 Thread Randy Bush
A little bit older one, but bigger - took down the whole internet: for a small value of whole internet same for ripe/duke experiment gone bad randy

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/20/2011 04:44 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: The best way to make 6to4 diminish has always been and still remains: Deploy Native IPv6 Now. That's a plan and a necessity at this point, but, execution is still somewhat lagging. Of course, Comcast *is* deploying native IPv6; see, for

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread Owen DeLong
Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Jim Gettys j...@freedesktop.org wrote: On 04/20/2011 04:44 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: The best way to make 6to4 diminish has always been and still remains: Deploy Native IPv6 Now. That's a plan and a necessity at this point, but, execution

Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

2011-04-20 Thread TJ
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 16:09, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote: On 04/20/2011 12:50, Owen DeLong wrote: Turnning off the servers will not reduce the brokenness of 6to4, it will increase it. Depends on your definitions of increase and broken. If all the relays disappeared tomorrow

Bandwidth growth

2011-04-20 Thread Curran, David
I'm interested in any evidence (even anecdotal) that general Internet usage (and more importantly, link utilization) has increased at higher rates in the last 6-12 months than in previous periods. Any graphs or otherwise would be greatly appreciated. The purpose is for an internal research

Re: Bandwidth growth

2011-04-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Curran, David wrote: I'm interested in any evidence (even anecdotal) that general Internet usage (and more importantly, link utilization) has increased at higher rates in the last 6-12 months than in previous periods. Any graphs or otherwise would be greatly

Re: Bandwidth growth

2011-04-20 Thread Adrian Chadd
If it's a true research project, wouldn't you really be interested in both evidence for/against? :-) Just my 2c here, Adrian On Wed, Apr 20, 2011, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Curran, David wrote: I'm interested in any evidence (even anecdotal) that general

Re: Bandwidth growth

2011-04-20 Thread Martin Millnert
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Curran, David wrote: I'm interested in any evidence (even anecdotal) that general Internet usage (and more importantly, link utilization) has increased at higher rates in the last 6-12

Re: NEBS compliant Server

2011-04-20 Thread Jess Petty
We use Sun Netra. Thanks, Jess