Re: Yahoo and IPv6

2011-05-13 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> My Desktop is not able to make any IPv4 socket connections anymore.  I >> get "Protocol not supported". So there are IPv6-only users, already >> bitten by no .  So that's -1 from me. > > i choose to only run decnet ii, and the world should

Re: Yahoo and IPv6

2011-05-13 Thread Randy Bush
> My Desktop is not able to make any IPv4 socket connections anymore. I > get "Protocol not supported". So there are IPv6-only users, already > bitten by no . So that's -1 from me. i choose to only run decnet ii, and the world should fix my connectivity problem. randy

RE: Yahoo and IPv6

2011-05-13 Thread George Bonser
> > My Desktop is not able to make any IPv4 socket connections anymore. I > get > "Protocol not supported". So there are IPv6-only users, already bitten > by > no . So that's -1 from me. > Sounds like a job for NAT64/DNS64

Re: Yahoo and IPv6

2011-05-13 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On May 14, 2011, at 2:12 AM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> In other words, Igor can't turn on records generally until there are >> 182,001 IPv6-only users that are broken from his lack of records. >> > > There will be no IPv6-only

Re: Yahoo and IPv6

2011-05-13 Thread Lorenzo Colitti
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > In other words, Igor can't turn on records generally until there are > 182,001 IPv6-only users that are broken from his lack of records. > There will be no IPv6-only users. There will only be users with better IPv6 connectivity tha

Re: Clearing DF bits...

2011-05-13 Thread Joel Maslak
On May 13, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > Years This was done both to deal with multiple encapsulations and for the > folk that block all ICMP for "security reasons." I did it as recently as last month, for the same reasons.

Clearing DF bits...

2011-05-13 Thread Warren Kumari
Hi there all, Years ago it used to be a somewhat common practice to clear the DF bit on packets, either on all packets, or just on those that that you were going to shove through a tunnel (I think the netscreen command was something like "set vpn foo df-bit clear", cisco had something funky wit

Re: dot xxx live or not?

2011-05-13 Thread Jorge Amodio
> You might be interested in this cool new technology called multicast. in this context you may be probably talking about anycast. there are few details but without digging in too much, there are at least two name servers for which the packets are flowing through the same exact route and end poin

Re: dot xxx live or not?

2011-05-13 Thread John Levine
>;; ANSWER SECTION: >xxx.300 IN NS a0.xxx.afilias-nst.info. >xxx.300 IN NS c0.xxx.afilias-nst.info. >xxx.300 IN NS a2.xxx.afilias-nst.info. >xxx.300 IN NS b0.xxx.

Re: IPv6 gateway, was: Re: IPv6 foot-dragging

2011-05-13 Thread Owen DeLong
On May 13, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > Owen DeLong wrote: >> On May 13, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > >>> -I FORWARD -j DROP >>> -I FORWARD -s 2001:db8::/64 -j ACCEPT >>> -I FORWARD -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT >>> >> I thought iptables processed ru

Re: IPv6 gateway, was: Re: IPv6 foot-dragging

2011-05-13 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Owen DeLong wrote: On May 13, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: -I FORWARD -j DROP -I FORWARD -s 2001:db8::/64 -j ACCEPT -I FORWARD -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT I thought iptables processed rules in order until it found a match. In such a case, wouldn't you want th

Re. EGP Remembered

2011-05-13 Thread Walter Prue
>Does no one remember EGP? To add to what Jessica already said about EGP, I can add that there were basically 3 metric values: 0 - directly connected 1-254 - not directly connected 255 unavailable So there was no concept of hop counts or quality of the route other than directly connected. I d

The Cidr Report

2011-05-13 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri May 13 21:12:09 2011 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

BGP Update Report

2011-05-13 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 05-May-11 -to- 12-May-11 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS19743 33082 2.1%4726.0 -- 2 - AS982924797 1.6% 26.1 -- BSNL-NIB Nat

Re: Routing study

2011-05-13 Thread Owen DeLong
My guess would be that someone didn't get the memo about the use agreement ending since they apparently still were listed in whois. Just a thought. Might have been a legitimate mistake from a position of ignorance, not knowing that they weren't still the registered resource holder. Owen On May

Re: IPv6 gateway, was: Re: IPv6 foot-dragging

2011-05-13 Thread Owen DeLong
On May 13, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > Jeroen van Aart wrote: >> -I FORWARD -i eth0 -s 2001:db8::/64 -j ACCEPT >> -I FORWARD -i eth1 -d 2001:db8::/64 -j ACCEPT > > Just in case if anyone'd be using it as an example. It's a good idea to make > your rules more restrictive. > > Som

Re: Routing study

2011-05-13 Thread bmanning
the loan was for a short term project, at least as was explained to me. continuing to use it three years later ... not so good. esp since I have other use earmarked for it. please remove the swip and stop using the address space. /bill On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:00:45PM -0400, Vytautas Val

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-13 Thread Jessica Yu
>Does no one remember EGP? Yes, I remember EGP every well.  When we built the NSFNET T1 backbone in 1987, EGP was the only available routing protocol for exterior routing.  We deployed it and used EGP to exchange routing information with the connected regional networks.  Initially, it worked fi

Re: IPv6 gateway, was: Re: IPv6 foot-dragging

2011-05-13 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Jeroen van Aart wrote: -I FORWARD -i eth0 -s 2001:db8::/64 -j ACCEPT -I FORWARD -i eth1 -d 2001:db8::/64 -j ACCEPT Just in case if anyone'd be using it as an example. It's a good idea to make your rules more restrictive. Something like: -I FORWARD -j DROP -I FORWARD -s 2001:db8::/64 -j ACCEP

Re: Routing study

2011-05-13 Thread bmanning
their use agreement ended in 2008. telling the nanog world they are going to reuse it three years later is not exactly what most would consider prior notice to the registered holder that they would like to do a research project wiht resources that are not registered to them. /bill On Thu, M

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-13 Thread c...@daydream.com
The Smarties in this part of the world don't come in boxes. :-) CJ On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:10 PM, wrote: > And if you had a great question or response, would you get a box of > Smarties? > > Robert > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > > -- > On May 12, 2011 10:54

Re: IPv6 gateway, was: Re: IPv6 foot-dragging

2011-05-13 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Jeroen van Aart wrote: Thanks all for the helpful suggestions. Obviously I need to do a better job using documentation IPv6 consistently, so ignore any inconsistencies in that regard. -- http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/plural-of-virus.html

Re: Interested in input on tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology

2011-05-13 Thread TR Shaw
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Karl Auer wrote: >> Hullo all. >> >> I'm working on a talk, and would be interested to know what people think >> is good about tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology, and what people >> think is bad about tunnels. >> >> It would probably be best to let me k

Re: IPv6 foot-dragging

2011-05-13 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Joe Loiacono wrote: Jeroen Massar wrote on 05/12/2011 09:19:21 AM: On 2011-May-12 15:14, Joe Loiacono wrote: Anyone know roughly the current default-free routing table size for IPv6? http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/status/ Awesome web-site. The world of IPv6 routing on one page. That is

IPv6 gateway, was: Re: IPv6 foot-dragging

2011-05-13 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Thanks all for the helpful suggestions. It looks like I solved the problem by adjusting my forward chain. I have a the local network on eth0 and the external network on eth1 and my forward chain looked like: -I FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -s 2001:db8::/64 -j ACCEPT -I FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -d 2

Weekly Routing Table Report

2011-05-13 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net

Re: Interested in input on tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology

2011-05-13 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Karl Auer wrote: > Hullo all. > > I'm working on a talk, and would be interested to know what people think > is good about tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology, and what people > think is bad about tunnels. > > It would probably be best to let me know off-list

RE: Interested in input on tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology

2011-05-13 Thread Tony Hain
Fundamentally tunneling allows you to introduce the new technology while you work through budgeting / amortization-of-legacy / resistance-to-change issues. The Internet as we know it was built as a tunnel overlay to the voice system, and the underlying operators of that time said the overlay cou

Re: dot xxx live or not?

2011-05-13 Thread Jorge Amodio
TLD is delegated and alive. pete@tango:~$ dig -t ns xxx ; <<>> DiG 9.7.0-P1 <<>> -t ns xxx ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47132 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 6, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;xxx.

Re: IPv6 foot-dragging

2011-05-13 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 13 mei 2011, at 18:42, Matthew Petach wrote: >> The current RIR practice to reserve a /44 when a /44 is given out is a very >> bad one. It assures unfilterability, because now you have random sizes from >> /44 to /48 in the parts of the address space used for PI. And if say, 64k >> /48s are

Re: IPv6 day in NYC?

2011-05-13 Thread Joly MacFie
Oops. Jun 8th 2011. I had D-Day on the brain. j On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Matthew Petach wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Joly MacFie wrote: > > The Internet Society is organizing IPv6 Day for June 6 2011. > > http://isoc.org/wp/worldipv6day/ > > Uh...unless there's been a sud

Re: IPv6 day in NYC?

2011-05-13 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Joly MacFie wrote: > The Internet Society is organizing IPv6 Day for June 6 2011. > http://isoc.org/wp/worldipv6day/ Uh...unless there's been a sudden change of plans, I believe the date is still set for June *8th*, 2011. ^_^;; Matt

IPv6 day in NYC?

2011-05-13 Thread Joly MacFie
The Internet Society is organizing IPv6 Day for June 6 2011. http://isoc.org/wp/worldipv6day/ There isn't currently a NYC event scheduled. If anyone's interested in making a presentation or just getting together for a discussion ISOC-NY would be happy to host at NYU. Feel free to respond off list

Re: IPv6 foot-dragging

2011-05-13 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 13 mei 2011, at 2:39, Jimmy Hess wrote: > >> if the user starts obtaining >> multiple non-aggregable /48s  from different sources,  or obtains an >> additional PI allocation later, but >> keeps using the original /48. > > Simple: m

Re: Need the perspective of a Level3 customer.

2011-05-13 Thread Eric Nowland
Here is what I am seeing from both of my Level 3 links, hope it helps: show ip bgp 63.210.162.0 BGP routing table entry for 63.210.162.0/24, version 139413425 Paths: (2 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Not advertised to any peer 3356 16582 4.53.6.25 from 4.53.6.25 (4.68

Re: Need the perspective of a Level3 customer.

2011-05-13 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 5/13/11 2:55 AM, Joe Renwick wrote: Thanks again to all who replied... looks like other Level3 customer are seeing the /24. Looks like the issue is specific to San Diego. Any routing information from other SD Level3 customer would be appreciated. Through Level3 (AS3356) Seattle->SJ->LA-

Re: Network Equipment Discussion (HP and L2/10G)

2011-05-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 5/13/11 8:14 AM, Deepak Jain wrote: > > Go figure, an actual thread about networking equipment on NANOG. :) > > So reading Cisco's announcement, I go look at HP's higher end > switching/routing line and I see some pretty beefy looking gear. > A12500 and others. Does anyone have any experience

Network Equipment Discussion (HP and L2/10G)

2011-05-13 Thread Deepak Jain
Go figure, an actual thread about networking equipment on NANOG. :) So reading Cisco's announcement, I go look at HP's higher end switching/routing line and I see some pretty beefy looking gear. A12500 and others. Does anyone have any experience with this thing -- is it white labeled from someo

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
> From: Tony Li > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:47:54 -0700 > > On May 12, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > Does no one remember EGP? ASNs are MUCH older than BGP. And we were > > using BGPv3 prior to the existence of V4. We used BGPv4 back in the days > > when Tony Li would chastise us

Re: Interested in input on tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology

2011-05-13 Thread Blake Hudson
>> would be interested to know what people think >> is good about tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology, and what people >> think is bad about tunnels. > The good thing about tunnels is people can build them where there's no > proper network > > The bad thing about tunnels is people build them

Re: dot xxx live or not?

2011-05-13 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 05:03:11AM -0400, Joly MacFie wrote a message of 19 lines which said: > I recall checking at the time that http://icmregistry.xxx worked > > Now it doesn't. Anyone know what's going on? The TLD ".xxx" works. Names like sex.xxx or icmregistry.xxx have apparently been d

Re: Interested in input on tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology

2011-05-13 Thread Randy Bush
> The good thing about tunnels is people can build them where there's no > proper network and the result is a network that is broken differently

dot xxx live or not?

2011-05-13 Thread Joly MacFie
About a month ago it was announced that the xxx sTLD had "gone live" i.e. been added to the IANA root zone http://www.domainnamenews.com/registries/xxx-live-root-servers/9191 I recall checking at the time that http://icmregistry.xxx worked Now it doesn't. Anyone know what's going on? j -- ---

Re: Need the perspective of a Level3 customer.

2011-05-13 Thread Joe Renwick
Thanks again to all who replied... looks like other Level3 customer are seeing the /24. Looks like the issue is specific to San Diego. Any routing information from other SD Level3 customer would be appreciated. Cheers, Joe On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Joe Renwick wrote: > Can anyone peer

Re: Need the perspective of a Level3 customer.

2011-05-13 Thread Tom Hill
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 01:39 -0700, Joe Renwick wrote: > Can anyone peering with Level3 directly tell me if they are seeing > 63.210.162.0/24 coming from the Level3 peer? > > Thanks for the help. > > Cheers, Hi Joe, #show bgp ipv4 unicast 63.210.162.0/24 BGP routing table entry for 63.210.162.0/

Re: Need the perspective of a Level3 customer.

2011-05-13 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le vendredi 13 mai 2011 à 01:39 -0700, Joe Renwick a écrit : > Can anyone peering with Level3 directly tell me if they are seeing > 63.210.162.0/24 coming from the Level3 peer? Yes, I do. mh > > Thanks for the help. > > Cheers, >

Need the perspective of a Level3 customer.

2011-05-13 Thread Joe Renwick
Can anyone peering with Level3 directly tell me if they are seeing 63.210.162.0/24 coming from the Level3 peer? Thanks for the help. Cheers, -- Joe Renwick IP Network Consultant, CCIE #16465 GO NETFORWARD! Direct: 619-800-2055, Emergency Support: 800-719-0504 Is your network moving you forward?

Re: Interested in input on tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology

2011-05-13 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 13 mei 2011, at 7:52, Karl Auer wrote: > I'm working on a talk, and would be interested to know what people think > is good about tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology, and what people > think is bad about tunnels. Without tunnels we'd have no IPv6 today. Even today many people, especially

Re: IPv6 foot-dragging

2011-05-13 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 13 mei 2011, at 2:39, Jimmy Hess wrote: > if the user starts obtaining > multiple non-aggregable /48s from different sources, or obtains an > additional PI allocation later, but > keeps using the original /48. Simple: make a rule that you don't get more than one PI block, and if you want a

Re: Interested in input on tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology

2011-05-13 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> would be interested to know what people think > is good about tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology, and what people > think is bad about tunnels. The good thing about tunnels is people can build them where there's no proper network The bad thing about tunnels is people build them instead of