The switch & data (or whatever they are called now, Equinox or something)
space is nice, good manager. You'd have to go for a whole rack or cage
though. You'd have wikipedia as a neighbor too. I put 40+ racks in there
for Clearwire. They are in the building with the big lizard on the side
downt
- Original Message -
> From: "Frank Bulk"
> Subject: RE: iCloud - Is it going to hurt access providers?
> The copper technologies of DOCSIS and xDSL are well established in
> residential deployments and they are asymmetric by design. I don't think
> near-symmetric speeds are on the CableL
Here's a very timely article on the topic of DOCSIS upstream:
http://accessintelligence.imirus.com/Mpowered/book/vcomm11/i8/p18
Frank
-Original Message-
From: Michael Thomas [mailto:m...@mtcc.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 6:06 PM
To: Mohacsi Janos
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: s
The copper technologies of DOCSIS and xDSL are well established in
residential deployments and they are asymmetric by design. I don't think
near-symmetric speeds are on the CableLab's and Broadband Forum's short list
of future features. Even GPON is 1:4. As more fiber is deployed, I believe
depl
I'm not 100% certain and have no references to back it up but I recall
reading an article which described the Apple cloud music strategy as being
one where for existing identified music it merely stores a reference of some
kind against your account rather than actually storing an additional copy.
P
In my opinion. Home networking (including personal clouds) have to change
the brain damaged model of asymmetric tail technologies. Giving back the
original peer-to-peer nature of networking the asymmetricity of the access
technologies will not be tolerable in such a level (1:10) we have today.
Mohacsi Janos wrote:
In my opinion. Home networking (including personal clouds) have to
change the brain damaged model of asymmetric tail technologies. Giving
back the original peer-to-peer nature of networking the asymmetricity of
the access technologies will not be tolerable in such a level (
- Original Message -
> From: "Seth Mattinen"
> On 9/3/11 2:02 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Wayne E Bouchard"
> >
> >> and will largely accept the problems for the durration or b) (and
> >> far
> >> more likely) the links apple is using will become
On 9/3/11 2:02 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Wayne E Bouchard"
>
>> and will largely accept the problems for the durration or b) (and far
>> more likely) the links apple is using will become flooded or the
>> systems overloaded in some way or another in which ca
On Sat, 3 Sep 2011, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
Hey all,
I've been thinking about the impact that iCloud (by Apple) will have on
the Internet.
My guess is that 99% of consumer internet access is Asymmetrical (DSL,
Cable, wireless, etc) and iCloud when launched will 'upload' obscene
amounts of
On Sep 3, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Wayne E Bouchard"
>
>> and will largely accept the problems for the durration or b) (and far
>> more likely) the links apple is using will become flooded or the
>> systems overloaded in some way or another
- Original Message -
> From: "Wayne E Bouchard"
> and will largely accept the problems for the durration or b) (and far
> more likely) the links apple is using will become flooded or the
> systems overloaded in some way or another in which case the customers
> will say, "MAN, this *SUCKS*
If you're worried about the problem of tens of thousands of users
simultaneously trying to upload files to a "central point" then I'm
not the slightest bit concerned about the network as a whole. In this
circumstance, one of two things will happen and possibly both,
depending: either a) the users w
Op 3 sep 2011, om 19:49 heeft Jimmy Hess het volgende geschreven:
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>
>> My guess is that 99% of consumer internet access is Asymmetrical (DSL,
>> Cable, wireless, etc) and iCloud when launched will 'upload' obscene amounts
>> of gigs of m
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> My guess is that 99% of consumer internet access is Asymmetrical (DSL, Cable,
> wireless, etc) and iCloud when launched will 'upload' obscene amounts of gigs
> of music, tv, backups, email, photos, documents/data and so on to their data
>
I think the effect will be limited unless Apple give alot more space away for
free. there arny many iphones/pads/pods with just 5GB
Neil
On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:22, "Skeeve Stevens" wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I've been thinking about the impact that iCloud (by Apple) will have on the
> Internet.
>
Subject: Re: iCloud - Is it going to hurt access providers? Date: Sat, Sep 03,
2011 at 10:17:40AM -0400 Quoting Jay Ashworth (j...@baylink.com):
> Gambling means that sometimes you lose. Alas, the costs won't be on
> Apple.
>
> This seems to be an ongoing situation: carriers discovering that the
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:20:13 -, Skeeve Stevens said:
> My guess is that 99% of consumer internet access is Asymmetrical (DSL, Cable,
> wireless, etc) and iCloud when launched will 'upload' obscene amounts of
> gigs of music, tv, backups, email, photos, documents/data and so on to their
> idata
> I'm not saying that people haven't being doing itŠ Dropbox is an exampleŠ
> but you add millions of iPads, iPhones, iPod Touches and OSX Lion's out
> there and that means a hell of a lot of new traffic.
Especially when you're at the end of a small hose. Comparatively.
What's Oz's aggregate ban
I'm not saying that people haven't being doing itŠ Dropbox is an exampleŠ
but you add millions of iPads, iPhones, iPod Touches and OSX Lion's out
there and that means a hell of a lot of new traffic.
ŠSkeeve
--
Skeeve Stevens, CEO - eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
ske...@eintellego
That is only for musicŠ Photos will be the big killer, documents and
iDevice backups as well.
ŠSkeeve
--
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ske...@eintellego.net ; www.eintellego.net
Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://s
- Original Message -
> From: "Skeeve Stevens"
> I've been thinking about the impact that iCloud (by Apple) will have
> on the Internet.
Aw, c'mon; what a boring Whacky Weekend thread... :-)
> So basically the potential issue is that a large residential provider
> could have thousands of
I was thinking the same thing. People have been dealing with this for years.
File sharing has had the same properties in the access networks for years now.
Jared Mauch
On Sep 3, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
> I think is would be short term. The home user is not going to continuous
My understanding was that the whole point of iCloud is to not upload but
rather use Apple's stored music files as long as you have them in your
library. You have a valid point however with other similar services, like
amazon's. But that's been out for a while.
--Andrey
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:2
I think is would be short term. The home user is not going to continuously
upload data. They will do an initial sync, then incrementals.
People are doing this today with success. This is not a new thing.
Sent via Blackberry while presumably driving with one hand
- Original Message -
Thanks David...
While I initially really haven't had anything to do with this site other
than opening my big mouth about it recently, it looks like I may become more
involved with it myself ;)
Yes, the advertising - just one small ad. The reason it was placed there is
because two companies have
Good concept, here's two points of feedback:
- Given the very early stages of the site, in terms of content, I
would kill off the ads for now. If you leave it ad-free for a little
while, I think people would be more willing to make use of it
initially. Leaving the ads in place, it feels like the
Hey all,
I've been thinking about the impact that iCloud (by Apple) will have on the
Internet.
My guess is that 99% of consumer internet access is Asymmetrical (DSL, Cable,
wireless, etc) and iCloud when launched will 'upload' obscene amounts of gigs
of music, tv, backups, email, photos, docum
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