Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread andrew.wallace
Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this perhaps being sabotage. http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/ Andrew From: Frank Bulk frnk...@iname.com To:

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know how to factor N+1 just for these types of days. And then the backup solution failed? I'm

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Andrew Mulholland
Never put down to malice which can be more easily explained by stupidity.. or in this case failure. RIM explained the problem earlier.. The messaging and browsing delays being experienced by BlackBerry users in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, India, Brazil, Chile and Argentina were caused by a

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Paul Stewart
Maybe they use the same security solutions as Playstation Network does... that would explain a lot suddenly. Paul -Original Message- From: andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:47 AM To: frnk...@iname.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject:

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Ben Albee
Our blackberry service with Us Cellular in Missouri started having issues about 8am this morning.

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 10/12/11 07:47 , andrew.wallace wrote: Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this perhaps being sabotage. http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/ North American outages of the blackberry platform

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, andrew.wallace said: Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this perhaps being sabotage. It ain't sabotage till you rule out misconfigured router. Consider the actual real-world threat models and their likelyhoods: 1)

2011.10.12 NANOG53 weds morning session notes

2011-10-12 Thread Matthew Petach
Wow. As always, Geoff Huston really knows how to deliver a message in a way that just reaches right out and grabs you; awesome, awesome keynote talk, that's going to be another one for the archives. ^_^ Notes from this morning's session have been posted to

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said: What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know how to factor N+1 just for these types

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Charles Mills
+1 On Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said: What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Tayeb Meftah
Idiotberry Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 12 oct. 2011 à 17:55, Charles Mills w3y...@gmail.com a écrit : +1 On Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said: What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core switch. I don't

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Chris Campbell
I think it raises serious questions about RIM's DR strategy if a DB corruption or switch failure or whatever can cause this much outage. 'Surely' RIM have an second site that is independent of the primary (within reason) that they could of flipped to when they realised the DB was borked. If not

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware failure or system/design failure that warranted questioning the need for N+2. Usually your N+1 failure is (as already referenced) pasting in a bad config that gets replicated or something like that. Not saying the hardware is

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Leigh Porter
-Original Message- From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 October 2011 17:10 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.) I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Mike Gatti
I have and totally get the point ... -- Michael Gatti cell.949.735.5612 ekim.it...@gmail.com (UTC-8) On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: -Original Message- From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 October 2011 17:10 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re:

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr.
Haven't received an e-mail on my Blackberry since around 4AM, located in Atlanta. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ben Albee bal...@orscheln.com wrote: Our blackberry service with Us Cellular in Missouri started having issues about 8am this morning.

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Brandt, Ralph
They are out there scrambling, trying to figure out where the truck that hit them came from. The PIO has been told to make up a story. Ralph Brandt Communications Engineer HP Enterprise Services Telephone +1 717.506.0802 FAX +1 717.506.4358 Email ralph.bra...@pateam.com 5095 Ritter Rd

Re: Botnets buying up IPv4 address space

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
Maybe we should just allow this to go on until all IPv4 space is so polluted that no-one wants to use it anymore :-) Bad Reputation as an IPv6 Transition Driver Nice title for a PPT deck... On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Tore Anderson tore.ander...@redpill-linpro.com wrote: * Martin Millnert

RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Leigh Porter
-Original Message- From: D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr. [mailto:fo...@lemcoe.com] Sent: 12 October 2011 18:01 Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Haven't received an e-mail on my Blackberry since around 4AM, located in Atlanta.

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread steve pirk [egrep]
Found this posting: Blackberry down. Research in Motion (RIM) sent the following e-mail to all clients: To: All Blackberry Clients Please be advised that Research in Motion (RIM) is experiencing world-wide connectivity issues affecting email flow to and from all Blackberries. RIM has not

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, andrew.wallace said: Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this perhaps being sabotage. It ain't sabotage till you rule out misconfigured

Re: Botnets buying up IPv4 address space

2011-10-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
And I suppose the bad guys who are out there gaming RIPE etc policies are not touching v6 with a bargepole? Or are they stockpiling massive amounts of v6 space? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo carlosm3...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we should just allow this to go on

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
Apparently Telcos are faced with implementing the following algorithm to create value-added services: - Take service S with provides value Y - Artificially remove value, creating new service V - Price V at the same level as S - Offer old S at a higher price point and market it as a value added

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
Again. I know those stories are out there. I'm blessed with a lower profile or higher karma. One of the two. digging thru cube to fine wood to knock on -Hammer- I was a normal American nerd -Jack Herer On 10/12/2011 11:53 AM, Mike Gatti wrote: I have and totally get the point ... --

Re: Botnets buying up IPv4 address space

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
I don't buy the bad-guys-rig-policies thing... but well, I could be wrong. But regarding your second comment, yes, I do believe that bad guys take the path of least resistance whenever possible. At some point IPv6 will look attractive to them and they will start using it. My logs show that I get

Re: Botnets buying up IPv4 address space

2011-10-12 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2011-10-12 19:34 , Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote: I don't buy the bad-guys-rig-policies thing... but well, I could be wrong. Rigging is not the right name for it, which is why the original message stated 'gaming', which is quite accurate. You just set up an official (shell) company and thus

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Abley
On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote: Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-) The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of processing intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the core as a simple transport and shift the processing intelligence to the edge

Re: 2011.10.12 NANOG53 weds morning session notes

2011-10-12 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
And as always, thank you Matt for taking the time and effort to do all of this work to provide a great service to the community. Thanks again, Mike On Oct 12, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Matthew Petach wrote: Wow. As always, Geoff Huston really knows how to deliver a message in a way that just

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
I've always believed that RIM's decision to implement email and other services in this way was a very poor choice that at some point would blow up in their faces. My evil half would say that is was a marketer's rather than an engineer's decision. It's one thing when you are basically the only

Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 01:10:08PM -0700, Zachary McGibbon wrote: With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern. Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks? That's an impressive jump. Do

Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Alcantar
Has anyone else bricked there phone doing the iOS 5 update. I just ran mine in the middle of the update I got a 3004 error doing some research that error means can't connect to gs.apple.com I'm guessing that¹s there upgrade server. So right now I'm SOL till I can connect to the update server.

Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Paul
There are a fair number of reports of Apple's update servers being down/intermittent. I imagine that's probably fairly inevitable on launch day. If people haven't already updated and are thinking about doing it, it's probably worth holding off a day or two just in case. Paul On 10/12/2011

Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Jorge Amodio
I didn't have issues downloading the update, it took less than 10min, but I've so many apps and stuff on a 32GB iPod that the process of backing up, upgrade, restore, somewhere in the middle you have to confirm some settings and backing up the apps for which I still I see 23 pending updates I

Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Ryan Wilkins
Have you previously run TinyUmbrella? It has been known to set gs.apple.com to a cydia server in the local hosts file which would return an error. Or it could be gs is overloaded or down. Regards, Ryan Wilkins On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Carlos Alcantar car...@race.com wrote: Has anyone

RE: Apple updates - Effect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Chad Burnham
HI, Our GigaPOP (Front Range GigaPOP) and our own Akamai cache server's traffic jumped significantly today. The theory (no data) is the Apple updates released today. Chad Burnham University of Denver -Original Message- From: Zachary McGibbon [mailto:zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com]

Re: Apple updates - Effect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Jared Mauch
The simple updates for a single machine today range in the 700mb-1.5gb or more range 10.7.2+iTunes+one iOS image. With a variety of devices it could easily be 4gb+ per user. Many broadband users are seeing slow akamai speeds because of these updates. I've seen 2+ hour download times myself

L3 announces new peering policy

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
In the wake of their GBLX acquisition, Level 3 has announced (already) what its new peering policy will be, in this press release posted at Telecom Ramblings: http://newswire.telecomramblings.com/2011/10/level-3-announces-new-policy-for-internet-protocol-interconnection/ Cheers, -- j --

Re: Apple updates - Effect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Jorge Amodio
On top of all that add that there are many apps that have also been updated today to be in sync with new iOS features. -J On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: The simple updates for a single machine today range in the 700mb-1.5gb or more range

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Phil Regnauld
Joe Abley (jabley) writes: On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote: Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-) The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of processing intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the core as a simple transport and shift the

Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Pierre-Yves Maunier
2011/10/12 Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern. Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks? [image: image.png] On our side,

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Abley
On 2011-10-12, at 18:02, Phil Regnauld wrote: Joe Abley (jabley) writes: On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote: Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-) The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of processing intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Phil Regnauld
Joe Abley (jabley) writes: This is not the case for corporate customers with dedicated servers, AFAIU. I'm no expert, but my understanding is that at some/most/all traffic between handhelds and a BES, carried from the handheld device through a cellular network, still flows

Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Alcantar
Ryan, Looks to have been the gs.apple.com was over loaded after about 30 attempts and 3 hrs it finally went through. Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 Fax: +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /

Re: L3 announces new peering policy

2011-10-12 Thread Scott Weeks
--- j...@baylink.com wrote: From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com In the wake of their GBLX acquisition, Level 3 has announced (already) what its new peering policy will be, in this press release posted at Telecom Ramblings:

TR: Will Sprint sell IP network to get cash to build out LTE?

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
Telecom Ramblings had another good piece this week, on who might buy Sprint's terrestrial division if they put it up for sale... http://www.telecomramblings.com/2011/10/where-sprint-is-going-to-get-the-cash Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink

Google Contact

2011-10-12 Thread James P. Ashton
Hello all, Can someone from Google, clue-full about the malware list, please contact me offlist. It appears that several customer servers have had their sites listed simply because they originate from our ASN. If anyone has any experience with this, thoughts and ideas are more than welcome.

Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Matt Addison
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:10, Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com wrote: With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern. Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks? Saw a

RIP dmr

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
Oh, hell: http://boingboing.net/2011/10/12/dennis-ritchie-1941-2011-computer-scientist-unix-co-creator-c-co-inventor.html -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth

Re: RIP dmr

2011-10-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: http://boingboing.net/2011/10/12/dennis-ritchie-1941-2011-computer-scientist-unix-co-creator-c-co-inventor.html A longer obituary thread for him than for steve jobs I think.  He deserves it. [and gmail wants me to consider

Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Jack Bates
On 10/12/2011 9:40 PM, Matt Addison wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:10, Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com wrote: With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern. Did anyone else notice significant

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Phil Regnauld regna...@nsrc.org wrote:        Correct - they need to transit at some point through the RIM servers.         http://www.interworks.com/blogs/wlyles/2010/01/14/why-rim-outage-affects-users-corporate-bes        That's just wrong on so many

Re: L3 announces new peering policy

2011-10-12 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: In the wake of their GBLX acquisition, Level 3 has announced (already) what its new peering policy will be, in this press release posted at Telecom Ramblings:

Re: RIP dmr

2011-10-12 Thread Lynda
I started with UNIX back when it arrived at school, on reel to reel tapes, and it was loaded on to the PDP 11/45. I learned to write C from the original KR (which I still have, of course). Dennis was one of the good ones. A kind and generous person, who changed all our worlds. Rest In Peace