On 16/02/2012 07:45, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Feb 15, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote:
On 2012.02.15 19:55, Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
IPv6 is operational.
How is this a misconception? It works fine for me...
Imagine an operator who is v6 ignorant, with a home provider who implements
On 15 Feb 2012, at 20:50, John Kristoff j...@cymru.com wrote:
Hi friends,
As some of you may know, I occasionally teach networking to college
students and I frequently encounter misconceptions about some aspect
of networking that can take a fair amount of effort to correct.
For
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Jeremy jba...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm doing some research on 802.11 quality of service, congestion control,
etc. I'm trying to find some information on the Point Coordination
Function, a polling based access control method, but I'm having a hard time
finding much
When I took an A level computing course in the 90s the course material
still talked about primary stor and backing stor, batch jobs and the
like...
I was working with a lot of batch jobs in my first development role in 1993,
and still supporting overnight scheduling to make best use of the
This isn't so much a list of misconceptions that recent students have as a list
of misconceptions that security management have…
On 15 Feb 2012, at 22:52, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
ICMP is evil.
Firewalls can be configured default-permit.
Firewalls can be configured unidirectionally.
Firewalls
If you want to know if your resolver talks IPv6 to the world and
supports 4096 EDNS UDP messages the following query will tell you.
dig edns-v6-ok.isc.org txt
Similarly for IPv4.
dig edns-v4-ok.isc.org txt
Both PowerDNS recursor 3.3 and Nominum CNS 3.0.5
You can trust your supplier's marketing literature.
Heck, maybe just You can trust your supplier.
==ml
15.02.2012 22:47, John Kristoff kirjoitti:
Hi friends,
As some of you may know, I occasionally teach networking to college
students and I frequently encounter misconceptions about some
The idea that the network will always match the documentation.
I have walked into many projects where this is not the case, but a
Junior Admin working with me can't seem to get around the fact that
the Visio we were handed isn't to be trusted and we've got to
double-check everything.
-Brett
On Feb 15, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
IPv6 is operational.
How is this a misconception? It works fine for me...
I think he left off In Japan. There's been a lot of local politics as it
relates to the broken nature of IPv6 in japan. When its there, it's not
globally
Teach the TCP/IP model ...
On 16/02/2012, John Kristoff j...@cymru.com wrote:
Hi friends,
As some of you may know, I occasionally teach networking to college
students and I frequently encounter misconceptions about some aspect
of networking that can take a fair amount of effort to correct.
Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/
Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so
quickly that human traders can't even react, no fewer than 18,520 crashes
and spikes occurred.
Anyone who has
On Feb 16, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Feb 15, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
IPv6 is operational.
How is this a misconception? It works fine for me...
I think he left off In Japan. There's been a lot of local politics as it
relates to the broken nature of
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:26:11 -0500
Charles Mills w3y...@gmail.com wrote:
Not understanding RFC1918. Actually got read the riot act by someone
because I worked for an organization that used 10.0.0.0/8 and that was
their network and they owned it.
Once upon a time, a now deservedly defunct
I help with networking curriculum and labs here at the University of
Maine, especially for network security.
There seems to be (even among faculty) a gross misunderstanding of
Layer-2. Nearly every textbook starts with IP, and talks about it as
if we were 20 years in the past.
I've found
On 2/16/2012 8:17 AM, Ray Soucy wrote:
I've found starting off with some history on Ethernet (Maine loves Bob
Metcalfe) becomes a very solid base for understanding; how Ethernet
today is very different; starting with hubs, bridges, collisions, and
those problems, then introducing modern
Wouldn't know about that part. You would have to ask an ntt employee.
Jared Mauch
On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
Yes, I'm well aware of the problems being created by the attempts by NTT to
force the government to let them be a residential ISP.
I suppose if you buy a SSL certificate, you should be looking for
your CA to have insurance to reimburse the cost of the certificate
should that happen, and an ironclad refund clause in the
agreement/contract under which a SSL cert is issued
These certs cost $9.00. You're not going to
On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Hank Nussbacher h...@efes.iucc.ac.il wrote:
Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/
Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so
quickly that human traders can't
Mario Eirea (meirea) writes:
Something that makes me crawl out of my skin is when they refer to an access
point as router.
I have colleagues that work with radio and wireless, and they crawl out
of *their* skin when I call an access point an access point, and they
tell
Mark Andrews (marka) writes:
If you want to know if your resolver talks IPv6 to the world and
supports 4096 EDNS UDP messages the following query will tell you.
dig edns-v6-ok.isc.org txt
Similarly for IPv4.
dig edns-v4-ok.isc.org txt
9.8.1P1 on a
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/
Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so
quickly that human traders can't even react, no fewer than 18,520
In message 20120216.130143.74691634.sth...@nethelp.no, sth...@nethelp.no
writes:
If you want to know if your resolver talks IPv6 to the world and
supports 4096 EDNS UDP messages the following query will tell you.
dig edns-v6-ok.isc.org txt
Similarly for IPv4.
Or a security vendor, or a security publication... the whole top ten
delivered as ten individual clicks with pay-per-view banner ads on each
page and a bazillion tracker cookies arrgh.
Jeff
On 2/16/2012 5:26 AM, Chris Campbell wrote:
This isn't so much a list of misconceptions
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 08:27:14AM -0500, Jeff Kell wrote:
On 2/16/2012 8:17 AM, Ray Soucy wrote:
I've found starting off with some history on Ethernet (Maine loves Bob
Metcalfe) becomes a very solid base for understanding; how Ethernet
today is very different; starting with hubs, bridges,
On 2012-02-16 14:51 , Mark Andrews wrote:
[..]
that can occur. As IPv4 and IPv6 are often configured independently
we provide a way to test each independently.
Could you make that label also for both IPv4/IPv6, that way, one could
figure out if the query ends up being answered over IPv4 or
We run IS-IS at the University of Pennsylvania as the IGP for
IPv6. I know of a few other non-ISPs too but I won't speak for
them. At the time we initially deployed IPv6, it was pretty
much one of the few safe choices (OSPFv3 implementations were
very new then).
--Shumon.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012
In message 20120216134437.gb65...@macbook.bluepipe.net, Phil Regnauld writes:
Mark Andrews (marka) writes:
If you want to know if your resolver talks IPv6 to the world and
supports 4096 EDNS UDP messages the following query will tell you.
dig edns-v6-ok.isc.org txt
In message 4f3d0c45.9020...@unfix.org, Jeroen Massar writes:
On 2012-02-16 14:51 , Mark Andrews wrote:
[..]
that can occur. As IPv4 and IPv6 are often configured independently
we provide a way to test each independently.
Could you make that label also for both IPv4/IPv6, that way, one
At 13:49 16/02/2012 +, Jethro R Binks wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/
Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so
quickly that
Not understanding RFC1918 also gets my vote.
Don't call them unroutable, ever.
I like it when I hear people say if you type a net 10 address into a
router, it will reject it.
What do they think people do with those networks anyway?
Call them private or RFC1918 networks/address spaces/ranges.
I
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:33 AM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
I suppose if you buy a SSL certificate, you should be looking for
your CA to have insurance to reimburse the cost of the certificate
should that happen, and an ironclad refund clause in the
agreement/contract under
In a message written on Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:57:25AM -0600, Jimmy Hess wrote:
There is a risk that any CA issued SSL certificate signed by _any_ CA
may be worthless some time in the future, if the CA chosen is later
found to have issued sufficient quantities fraudulent certificates,
and
These certs cost $9.00. You're not going to get much of an insurance policy
at that price.
again, startssl.com - free. why pay? it's (as you say) not actually
buying you anything except random bits anyway... if you can get them
for free, why would you not do that?
The free ones are supposed
On 2012-02-16 17:13 , Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:33 AM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
I suppose if you buy a SSL certificate, you should be looking for
your CA to have insurance to reimburse the cost of the certificate
should that happen, and an ironclad
In article 20120216162108.ga11...@ussenterprise.ufp.org you write:
-=-=-=-=-=-
In a message written on Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:57:25AM -0600, Jimmy Hess
wrote:
There is a risk that any CA issued SSL certificate signed by _any_ CA
may be worthless some time in the future, if the CA chosen is
Borderline dns-ops, sorry folks! - but this is interesting
as we've been talking about ipv6 being operational, and this
is part of it...
Mark Andrews (marka) writes:
If you are seeing TC between the resolver and the server and the TCP query is
being answers then
On 2/16/2012 7:17 AM, Ray Soucy wrote:
There seems to be (even among faculty) a gross misunderstanding of
Layer-2. Nearly every textbook starts with IP, and talks about it as
if we were 20 years in the past.
Understanding all layers and how they can interact stacked within layers
is a big
On (16/02/12 11:13), Christopher Morrow wrote:
again, startssl.com - free. why pay? it's (as you say) not actually
buying you anything except random bits anyway... if you can get them
for free, why would you not do that?
They may not charge money, but it's not really free. You have to
On 02/16/12 05:17, Ray Soucy wrote:
I've found starting off with some history on Ethernet (Maine loves Bob
Metcalfe) becomes a very solid base for understanding; how Ethernet
today is very different; starting with hubs, bridges, collisions, and
those problems, then introducing modern switching,
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 03:03:55PM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
Anyone who has managed a network knows that when you look at your
MRTG/Cacti graphs at 5min, 10min ,15min intervals - all looks well.
Start looking at 1sec intervals and you will see spikes that hit
100% of capacity - even on
I would say that the average University is more of an unusual ISP than a
non-ISP.
Almost every University I know of has a networking group that functions like an
ISP for the various departments of the college(s) as well as providing
essentially residential ISP services to their
residence halls
With telcos increasingly implementing Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) networks, I
have found that telco technicians tasked with maintaining and operating these
carrier Ethernet networks appear to disregard common high availability
practices. For instance, after diagnosing a routing protocol neighbor
In message 20120216165308.ge65...@macbook.bluepipe.net, Phil Regnauld writes:
Borderline dns-ops, sorry folks! - but this is interesting
as we've been talking about ipv6 being operational, and this
is part of it...
Mark Andrews (marka) writes:
If you are seeing TC
I'm surprised I haven't seen QoS mentioned! If you're teaching college
students, you might want to go over stuff that directly relates to what
they're doing at home, or misconceptions they might make in a small
WAN/ISP environment.
*Why disabling ICMP doesn't increase security and only hurts the
Or more to the point, it is a misconception that traffic is
symetrical (the path out and the path back are the same) whereas in
the present network, symetrical paths are the exception rather than
the rule, especially as your radius increases.
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 07:17:57PM -0500, Lee wrote:
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:49 PM, George Herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
The problem with anything related to Verisign at the moment is that
The
On 2/16/12 5:03 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/
Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so
quickly that human traders can't even react, no fewer than 18,520
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Wayne E Bouchard wrote:
Or more to the point, it is a misconception that traffic is
symetrical (the path out and the path back are the same) whereas in
the present network, symetrical paths are the exception rather than
the rule, especially as your radius increases.
To
ok, this is horribly pragmatic, but it's real. yesterday i was in the
westin playing rack and stack for five hours. an horrifyingly large
amount of my time was spent trying to peel apart labels made on my
portable brother label tape maker, yes peeling the backing from a little
label so remote
On 17/02/12 10:08, Randy Bush wrote:
ok, this is horribly pragmatic, but it's real. yesterday i was in the
westin playing rack and stack for five hours. an horrifyingly large
amount of my time was spent trying to peel apart labels made on my
portable brother label tape maker, yes peeling the
Brothers' are fine; buy the tapes that have the split-down-the-middle
backing on them.
It reduces the unpeeling problem from
more-time-than-the-label-took-to-type-in to about 2 seconds. You just
grab the edges at an end and bend it, so the backing bulges outwards,
and off it starts to come.
In a message written on Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 01:08:46PM -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
ok, this is horribly pragmatic, but it's real. yesterday i was in the
westin playing rack and stack for five hours. an horrifyingly large
amount of my time was spent trying to peel apart labels made on my
If they are Dell servers, you could always name each host in their BIOS so
it shows up on the display of the host.
-Mike
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote:
In a message written on Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 01:08:46PM -0800, Randy Bush
wrote:
ok, this is
Alot of people are unclear on how hard it is for someone to sniff internet
traffic if the aren't physically located at or near one of the endpoints
IE: connected to the same access point or same switch.
2012/2/15 John Kristoff j...@cymru.com
Hi friends,
As some of you may know, I
The other trick is to pre-print your labels.
We use a Brother PT-9500PC to print our labels. It is a dedicated PC
printer, but it always half-cuts a little tab at the end of the label so
you bend the label at the cut and it is simple to pull off.
Thanks,
Erik
-Original Message-
From:
At 04:08 PM 2/16/2012, Randy Bush wrote:
ok, this is horribly pragmatic, but it's real. yesterday i was in the
westin playing rack and stack for five hours. an horrifyingly large
amount of my time was spent trying to peel apart labels made on my
portable brother label tape maker, yes peeling
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
If they are Dell servers, you could always name each host in their BIOS so
it shows up on the display of the host.
provided the dell actually had that display, and provided the server
didn't toss a PS ...
Seems like dig doesn't always advertise a big enough buffer, I was having
the same issue as you. If you set the buffer size on the command line it
works as directed.
Daniels-Mac-mini:~ daniel$ dig edns-v4-ok.isc.org txt @149.20.64.58
;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode.
;; Connection to
If you're building a datacenter probably not. Other than giving the remote
hands some identifier and making them label the servers themselves. If
you're at a conference you could get away with using masking tape and a
sharpie. If you think it was time consuming applying the labels wait until
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Randy Bush wrote:
is there a trick? is there a (not expensive) different labeling machine
or technique i should use?
Nobody's been a smart ass yet and suggested a roll of duct tape and a
sharpie?
All the labelers I've used have had the split down the middle tape, so
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:18:42 -0500, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
If they are Dell servers, you could always name each host in their BIOS
so it shows up on the display of the host.
I did that with a batch of sun v20z's... when they got to the colo, no one
knew which was which until
On 2/16/12 2:23 PM, nanog-requ...@nanog.org wrote:
time sink 42
Others have already noted the difference between TZ and M tapes; the TZ
tapes are also supposed to be 'better' in that they are laminated, while
the M tapes are not and may decay more quickly.
However, the problem I have is
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Leo Bicknell wrote:
The Brother I have that takes M tape has the problem you describe,
it's nearly impossible to get the backing to separate from the label.
I have another Brother that takes TZ tape, the backing of the tape of
slit down the middle lengthwise. Gently
Once upon a time, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com said:
is there a trick? is there a (not expensive) different labeling machine
or technique i should use?
Like others, I use a Brother P-Touch with TZ tapes with a split down the
middle. However, the last couple of tapes had splits that weren't cut
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 01:08:46PM -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
ok, this is horribly pragmatic, but it's real. yesterday i was in the
westin playing rack and stack for five hours. an horrifyingly large
amount of my time was spent trying to peel apart labels made on my
portable brother label tape
Right, asymmetric paths are the norm for many inter-provider
communications.
A related misconception is that asymmetric paths are problematic.
Another mis-conception related to path is that more (visible) hops are bad
with the corollary that routers introduce (significant) latency.
Of course,
-Original Message-
From: Majdi S. Abbas [mailto:m...@latt.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 16:35
To: Randy Bush
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: Re: time sink 42
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 01:08:46PM -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
ok, this is horribly pragmatic,
In a message written on Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 02:32:07PM -0700, Joel M Snyder
wrote:
features, so I bought the cheapest TZ-compatible P-touch I could find,
the 1290, but it is about twice as hard to get anything done with it as
the bottom-of-the-line $19.95 P-Touch that takes M tapes.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Ricky Beam jfb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:18:42 -0500, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
If they are Dell servers, you could always name each host in their BIOS so
it shows up on the display of the host.
I did that with a batch of sun
- Original Message -
From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com
ok, this is horribly pragmatic, but it's real. yesterday i was in the
westin playing rack and stack for five hours. an horrifyingly large
amount of my time was spent trying to peel apart labels made on my
portable brother label tape
Hi Randy,
I know where you are coming from. I have going throw many types.
Currently we use the Bothers P-Touch with the TZe Tape with the specific
Cable/Wire Labels tape. It works ok and the labels last much longer
then the previous masking tape with sharpe method.
Overall I pay more money
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:45:49 GMT, Dixon, Justin said:
Only issue with that approach is that if the colo facility moves your
hardware at some point you need to ensure that they let you know that so you
can update your documentation to coincide with (hopefully) their documentation
of where your
Solution:
http://www.bradyid.com
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 13:08 -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
an horrifyingly large
amount of my time was spent trying to peel apart labels made on my
portable brother label tape maker
[...]
is there a trick?
Some tapes have a split backing; bend the tape along the long axis and
you can peel off both
- Original Message -
From: Joel M Snyder joel.sny...@opus1.com
Anyone got a solution for *that* particular problem? Should I get a
better TZ-compatible labeler?
If you're labelling a batch of stuff all at once, you should definitely
get one that runs from your PC; I have a PT-2430PC,
we just use paper labels and markers, much faster easier.
it's not just the peeling the back of it, its also the entering the
stuff on the tiny keyboard
and unlike labelprinter stickers, they hold in higher
temperatures with low humidity and lots of airflow
after a few years ;)
we've
On 2/16/12 1:25 PM, Keegan Holley wrote:
If you're building a datacenter probably not. Other than giving the remote
hands some identifier and making them label the servers themselves. If
you're at a conference you could get away with using masking tape and a
sharpie. If you think it was
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Bryan Irvine wrote:
And watch for the removable faceplates. We've been bitten before
after a server move by rebooting a server that had the correct label
but the wrong faceplate. Now we label the faceplate as well as
underneath of it too. :-)
We do the same with
you actually can do that from linux, integrate it into your
installer/imaging code and you're set ;)
just that dell seems to be the only one who has given this some thought ;)
but hey, you can just buy usb photoframe keychains, put the service-id
number in a jpeg image, store it on there, and
- Original Message -
From: Karl Auer ka...@biplane.com.au
If you can't find such tape for your model of label maker, you will need
fingernails and either a very good sense of touch or good eyesight.
Fold one of the corners of the label, just a tiny corner, back towards
the backing
Once upon a time, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com said:
And watch for the removable faceplates. We've been bitten before
after a server move by rebooting a server that had the correct label
but the wrong faceplate. Now we label the faceplate as well as
underneath of it too. :-)
Not just
On 16/02/2012 21:14, George Herbert wrote:
Brothers' are fine; buy the tapes that have the split-down-the-middle
backing on them.
It reduces the unpeeling problem from
more-time-than-the-label-took-to-type-in to about 2 seconds. You just
grab the edges at an end and bend it, so the backing
manufacturers printing the mac address of eth0 and the bmc on the back of
the case somewhere at the factory would be appreciated too.
preferably with a barcode as well.
the mac addresses is usually nowhere to be found on servers.
the things should just ship with the bmc set to dhcp, a barcode
Once upon a time, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com said:
And watch for the removable faceplates.
you mean you actually leave those things on there? :P
*grin*
In message
ca+yccuoolgwamun_asbf8ffipczwmt2oo7t45jonqthjwx+...@mail.gmail.com, Daniel
Griggs writes:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Seems like dig doesn't always advertise a big enough buffer, I was having
the same issue as you. If you set the
On 02/15/12 23:34, Owen DeLong wrote:
I think one of the most damaging fundamental misconceptions which is
not only rampant among students, but, also enterprise IT professionals
is the idea that NAT is a security tool and the inability to conceive of the
separation between NAT (header
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:
On 16/02/2012 21:14, George Herbert wrote:
Brothers' are fine; buy the tapes that have the split-down-the-middle
backing on them.
It reduces the unpeeling problem from
more-time-than-the-label-took-to-type-in to about 2
On 02/16/12 14:21, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Bryan Irvinesparcta...@gmail.com said:
And watch for the removable faceplates. We've been bitten before
after a server move by rebooting a server that had the correct label
but the wrong faceplate. Now we label the faceplate as well as
For the regular Brother labels, my trick is to fold down the corner a
little, that usually makes it easier to peel. You can also cut the
whitespace off the end and that sometimes helps.
Sorry if this was a double post, but I don't think I saw either of these
suggestions in the thread already.
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Randy Bush wrote:
is there a trick? is there a (not expensive) different labeling machine
or technique i should use?
the rhino pro labelers and labels have a split on the backer so they peel
easy. oh, and they dont come off with heat exposure (some of them are
even ok
Personally, I prefer the Brady IDExpert.
It's pricier, but, it has much greater flexibility and will produce, among
other things, very nice self-laminating labels you can wrap around wires.
Owen
On Feb 16, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Joel M
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Jason Chambers jchamb...@ucla.edu wrote:
On 2/16/12 5:03 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/
Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading
For standard linear tape labels, making a sharp s-curve bend in the label near
one end will often cause the backing to readily separate from the label at that
end.
Brother used to include a nifty little tool for doing just that stuck in the
bottom of many of their P-Touch labelers. Don't know
ok, this is horribly pragmatic, but it's real. yesterday i was in the
westin playing rack and stack for five hours. an horrifyingly large
amount of my time was spent trying to peel apart labels made on my
portable brother label tape maker, yes peeling the backing from a little
label so
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 17:17 -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Fold one of the corners of the label, just a tiny corner, back towards
the backing paper, then forward.
It matters which way you bend, because of the relative stiffness of
the paper and the plastic; you have to bend *towards* the paper,
I hate all the newer Brother labelmakers I've seen - pretty much for
this
very reason. I've never found a good method for quickly and reliably
removing the backings for them.
The one thing I absolutely cannot stand about all the low-end brothers is the
amount of waste they generate. When
I have been scoring paper back VERY lightly near one end with razor knife, then
peeling off.
On Feb 16, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Karl Auer wrote:
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 17:17 -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Fold one of the corners of the label, just a tiny corner, back towards
the backing paper, then
I am in the last-moment phase of moving from Canada to the U.S. for a
one-year contract. Tomorrow I will be crossing at the Peace Bridge at
Niagara to apply for my TN visa.
Could anyone here who may have gone through this process contact me
off-list to answer a few simple questions?
Thank
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
From: Joel M Snyder joel.sny...@opus1.com
Anyone got a solution for *that* particular problem? Should I get a
better TZ-compatible labeler?
If you're labelling a batch of stuff all at once, you should definitely
get one
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Jerry Jones wrote:
I have been scoring paper back VERY lightly near one end with razor knife, then
peeling off.
sounds like something that increases the time it takes to make and put one
single label on by 500%
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