Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread Jay Moran
Ameen, We've had very good success using Brocade MLX's for this very thing (actually, might be older XMRs, but should be same platform at this point). Check out the transparent-hw-flooding command under a VLAN. It basically turns off mac learning, and just floods it on the vlan's member ports.

Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread gwoo...@gmail.com
Instead of monitoring the physical interface, monitor the vlan from a Cisco IOS perspective on a CAT6500. This will capture all physical interfaces associated with that vlan for mirroring/span. HTH Jonathan #22744 Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! - Reply message -

Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread A. Pishdadi
No the issue isnt monitoring many ports at once, its having more then 1 set of monitoring or 2 sets in the 6500 case. So I am monitoring say port channel 1 to ports 1 2 3 4, and port channel 2 , ports 4 5 6 and 7. After that I cannot monitor anymore ports. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:34 AM,

Re: BBC reports Kenya fiber break

2012-03-01 Thread Georgios Theodoridis
Has it been known the exact time of the incident? I have found an article reporting that the cut occurred in the mid-day of Saturday 25th but nothing more precise. We would like to use such information for a BGP anomaly detection analysis that we are carrying out in our research centre.

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Tim Franklin
GAI/GNI do not return TTL values, but this should not be a problem. If they were to return anything, it should not be a TTL, but a time() value, after which the result may no longer be used. One way to achieve that would be for GAI to return an opaque structure that contained the IP and

Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread David Swafford
Take a look at VACLs on the Cat side. It has a capture feature that is effectively the same as a local SPAN, but without the 2 session limit. If you do a lot of RSPAN though, this wouldn't be your complete answer (VACL captures are local only). VACLs are a bit more granular in defining what's

RE: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread Chris Mills
Echoing what Terry said... we use gigamon devices for this too. -Chris On Mar 1, 2012 5:53 AM, Terry Baranski terry.baranski.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 1, 2012, at 02:13 AM, apishd...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, We are looking for a switch or a device that we can use for mirroring

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 29, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Matt Addison matt.addi...@lists.evilgeni.us wrote: gai/gni do not return TTL values on any platforms I'm aware of, the only way to get TTL currently is to use a non standard resolver (e.g. lwres). The issue is

RE: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread Harry Hoffman

Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
A. Pishdadi apishd...@gmail.com writes: We are looking for a switch or a device that we can use for mirroring tap ports. For example , take a mirror port off of a core router say a 6509, connect it to a port on said device, say port 1. I would like then to be able to mirror port 1 on said

Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread David Barak
Hi Ameen, Wouldn#39;t it work to have a switch aggregating your monitor sessions just disable MAC learning? Traffic from a single input interface would be replicated to all other ports on the vlan where learning is disabled. I#39;ve used this with a 3750, and I haven#39;t seen any trouble

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Joe Greco
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: In the specific case of TTL, the problem is made much worse due to the way most client code has hidden this data from developers, so that many developers don't even have any idea that such a thing exists. I'm not sure

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: The simpler approach and perfectly viable without mucking up what is already implemented and working: Don't keep returns from GAI/GNI around longer than it takes to cycle through your connect() loop immediately after the

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: If three people died and the building burned down then the sprinkler system didn't work. It may have sprayed water, but it didn't *work*. That's not true.  If it sprayed water in the manner it was designed to, then it worked.

RE: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread Slade, Ian
Yes, the Cat 6500s are limited to a certain number of SPAN/port monitoring sessions. Another tool, we've switched to after using the Gigamon for many years are taps and the Anue 5236 (10Gb) port aggregator. From this we can split the SPAN feeds into different IDS/monitoring servers or load-share

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Joe Greco
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: If three people died and the building burned down then the sprinkler system didn't work. It may have sprayed water, but it didn't *work*. That's not true. =A0If it sprayed water in the manner it was designed to, then it

Re: BBC reports Kenya fiber break

2012-03-01 Thread Oliver Garraux
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Georgios Theodoridis gt...@iti.gr wrote: Has it been known the exact time of the incident? I have found an article reporting that the cut occurred in the mid-day of Saturday 25th but nothing more precise. We would like to use such information for a BGP anomaly

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 03/01/2012 06:26 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Owen DeLongo...@delong.com wrote: The simpler approach and perfectly viable without mucking up what is already implemented and working: Don't keep returns from GAI/GNI around longer than it takes to cycle through

Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread Shawn Morris
I believe MRV's Media Cross Connects will do this. http://www.mrv.com/tap/physical-layer/ On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:12 AM, A. Pishdadi apishd...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, We are looking for a switch or a device that we can use for mirroring tap ports. For example , take a mirror port off

Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread Ron Broersma
Be careful when considering the Anue products. When we evaluated both Anue and Gigamon, we had to rule out Anue due to total lack of IPv6 support, and went with Gigamon instead. I have not heard whether the situation has changed in the last year. We liked both products for their

Riverbed/Akamai/Rakamai

2012-03-01 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
As long as we're talking about cloud networks, Akamai and Riverbed have finally let out details on their partnership for optimizing Cloud applications: http://www.nojitter.com/post/232601716/rakamai-makes-the-cloud-work-better While I'm familiar with Akamai (what they do and how they do it) I

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Joe Greco
On 03/01/2012 06:26 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Owen DeLongo...@delong.com wrote: The simpler approach and perfectly viable without mucking up what is already implemented and working: Don't keep returns from GAI/GNI around longer than it takes to cycle

Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread Jeff Kell
How about splitting up a heavy stream (10G) into components (1G) to run through an inline device and reassemble the pieces back to an aggregate afterward? TippingPoint makes a core controller box for this but it's pretty hideously expensive. Could do it with two 6500s but that's pretty

Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread Harry Hoffman
Gigamon has a new product offering that claims to do this (their sales guys just met with me a few days ago and gave me a update on their latest offerings). It's the G-Secure-something or other. We're using the 2404's so I don't have any experience with it. Cheers, Harry On 03/01/2012 10:22

Re: BBC reports Kenya fiber break

2012-03-01 Thread Frank Habicht
On 3/1/2012 5:54 PM, Oliver Garraux wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Georgios Theodoridis gt...@iti.gr wrote: Has it been known the exact time of the incident? I have found an article reporting that the cut occurred in the mid-day of Saturday 25th but nothing more precise. We would like

Re: Riverbed/Akamai/Rakamai

2012-03-01 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 10:09:27AM -0500, Kristian Kielhofner wrote: Does anyone know what they actually do and how they do it? As usual it's tough to cut through the marketing on the little detail they make available (never a good sign). It's been a while since I looked

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 03/01/2012 07:22 AM, Joe Greco wrote: It's deeper than just that, though. The whole paradigm is messy, from the point of view of someone who just wants to get stuff done. The examples are (almost?) all fatally flawed. The code that actually gets at least some of it right ends up being too

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-03-01 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Dale Shaw dale.shaw+na...@gmail.com What about something like this? http://www.comsol.com.au/SL-PCC-01 While they might not sell to the US, that's roughly equivalent in formfactor to the Lantronix spider to which I posted a link... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay

Re: BBC reports Kenya fiber break

2012-03-01 Thread Andree Toonk
Hi Georgios, .-- My secret spy satellite informs me that at 12-03-01 1:11 AM Georgios Theodoridis wrote: Has it been known the exact time of the incident? I have found an article reporting that the cut occurred in the mid-day of Saturday 25th but nothing more precise. We would like to use

Re: [nanog] Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread David LaPorte
We're doing something similar - VACLs (using the redirect action) with port-channel destinations on a span aggregation 650x. If you've got a spare 650x chassis lying around and your configuration requirements aren't terribly complex/dynamic, you can do monitoring with filtering and load-balancing

Re: Riverbed/Akamai/Rakamai

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Still
Found this in one of my RSS feeds this am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNOXSmMfcGs Sort of explains it. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Kristian Kielhofner k...@kriskinc.com wrote: As long as we're talking about cloud networks, Akamai and Riverbed have finally let out details on their

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote: On 03/01/2012 06:26 AM, William Herrin wrote: The even simpler approach: create an AF_NAME with a sockaddr struct that contains a hostname instead of an IPvX address. Then let connect() figure out the details of caching,

Re: Switch designed for mirroring tap ports

2012-03-01 Thread Dale W. Carder
Thus spake Jeff Kell (jeff-k...@utc.edu) on Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 10:22:29AM -0500: How about splitting up a heavy stream (10G) into components (1G) to run through an inline device and reassemble the pieces back to an aggregate afterward? Sounds like a perfect job for a commodity switch that

Many dns queries to a.root-servers.net

2012-03-01 Thread Dario Aguilar
Hi, I'm seeing quite a lot of queries for a.root-servers.net IN A in the logs of my caching servers. They seem to be coming from home normal DSL customers (IPs who would be expected to be using the name servers) with each sending one query every 2 seconds. They all together represents more than de

Re: BBC reports Kenya fiber break

2012-03-01 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Feb 29, 2012, at 11:17 17AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote: On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Rodrick Brown wrote: There's about 1/2 a dozen or so known private and government research facilities on Antarctica and I'm

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 03/01/2012 08:57 AM, David Conrad wrote: Moving it across the kernel boundary solves nothing Actually, it does. Right now, applications effectively cache the address in their data space, requiring the application developer to go to quite a bit of work to deal with the address changing

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 03/01/2012 08:58 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Michael Thomasm...@mtcc.com wrote: On 03/01/2012 06:26 AM, William Herrin wrote: The even simpler approach: create an AF_NAME with a sockaddr struct that contains a hostname instead of an IPvX address. Then let

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote: On 03/01/2012 08:58 AM, William Herrin wrote: libc != kernel. I want to move the action into the standard libraries where [resolve and connect] can be done once and done well. A little kernel action on top to parallelize

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Owen DeLong
It's deeper than just that, though. The whole paradigm is messy, from the point of view of someone who just wants to get stuff done. The examples are (almost?) all fatally flawed. The code that actually gets at least some of it right ends up being too complex and too hard for people to

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: I think that the modern set of getaddrinfo and connect is actually not that complicated: Owen, If took you 50 lines of code to do 'socket=connect(www.google.com,80,TCP);' and you still managed to produce a version which, due

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Mark Andrews
In message CAP-guGXLpzai4LrxyJcNn06yQ1jAEu4QeRpVzGRah=+ogly...@mail.gmail.com , William Herrin writes: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: I think that the modern set of getaddrinfo and connect is actually not th= at complicated: Owen, If took you 50 lines

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Owen DeLong
William, I could have done it in a lot less lines of code, but, it would have been much less readable. Not blocking on the connect() call is a little more complex, but, not terribly so. It does, however, again, make the code quite a bit less readable. There are libraries available that

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: You don't have to reinvent what I've done. Neither does every or any other application programmer. You are welcome to use any of the many connection abstraction libraries that are available in open source. I suggest you make a

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 05:57:11PM -0500, William Herrin wrote: Which is what everybody basically does. And when it works during the decidedly non-rigorous testing, they move on to the next problem... with code that doesn't perform well in the corner cases. Such as when a host has just been

Re: BBC reports Kenya fiber break

2012-03-01 Thread Jim Cowie
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Georgios Theodoridis gt...@iti.gr wrote: Has it been known the exact time of the incident? I have found an article reporting that the cut occurred in the mid-day of Saturday 25th but nothing more precise. We would like to use such information for a BGP anomaly

Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Randy Carpenter wrote: Does anyone have any recommendation for a reliable cloud host? Basic requirements: 1. Full redundancy with instant failover to other hypervisor hosts upon hardware failure (I thought this was a given!) Assuming a simple set up as you suggest. If what you want to do

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 1, 2012, at 2:57 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: You don't have to reinvent what I've done. Neither does every or any other application programmer. You are welcome to use any of the many connection abstraction libraries

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: There's no need to break the current functionality of the underlying system calls and libc functions which would be needed by any such library anyway. Owen, Point to one sentence written by anybody in this entire thread in

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:15 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: There's no need to break the current functionality of the underlying system calls and libc functions which would be needed by any such library anyway. Owen, Point to one

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Matt Addison
On Mar 1, 2012, at 17:10, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: If took you 50 lines of code to do 'socket=connect(www.google.com,80,TCP);' and you still managed to produce a version which, due to the timeout on dead addresses, is worthless for any kind of interactive program like a web

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:15 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: There's no need to break the current functionality of the underlying system calls and libc functions which

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-03-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:34 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:15 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: There's no need to break the current functionality of the

Re: BBC reports Kenya fiber break

2012-03-01 Thread Georgios Theodoridis
I would like to deeply thank you all for your prompt response as well as for your generous contribution and the most interesting information that you shared. Of course any further insight is still more than welcome. Best regards, George On 03/02/2012 01:22 AM, Jim Cowie wrote: On Thu, Mar