Well, XNS (Xerox Networking System from PARC) used basically MAC
addresses. Less a demonstration of success than that it has been
tried. But it's where ethernet MAC addresses come from, they're just
XNS addresses and maybe this has changed but Xerox used to manage the
master 802 OUI list and are
I know that I should know better then comment on networks others then
my own, ( and I know to never comment on my own publicly :) )
But here goes, 210x the size of normal really? 210% I'd have a hard
time believing. Did anyone else anywhere see a route leak equal to
larger then the entire
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 21:05:07 -0300, jim deleskie said:
But here goes, 210x the size of normal really? 210% I'd have a hard
time believing. Did anyone else anywhere see a route leak equal to
larger then the entire Internet that day, anywhere else that could of
caused this?
If the device was
Yes that math would work, but if your device can't handle 1x Internet
routing and your running without some serious max-prefix/filters it
says even more about your IP eng team then I'd be willing to comment
on.
-jim
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:17 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, jim deleskie wrote:
I know that I should know better then comment on networks others then
my own, ( and I know to never comment on my own publicly :) )
But here goes, 210x the size of normal really? 210% I'd have a hard
time believing. Did anyone else anywhere see a route
While this is an interesting thought experiment, what problem are
you trying to solve with this proposal?
(asked privately but it seems worthwhile answering publicly, bcc'd,
you can id yourself if you like.)
Look, as I said in the original message I was asked to speak to a
group of young
On 10/5/12 5:05 PM, jim deleskie wrote:
I know that I should know better then comment on networks others then
my own, ( and I know to never comment on my own publicly :) )
But here goes, 210x the size of normal really? 210% I'd have a hard
time believing. Did anyone else anywhere see a route
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On 10/5/2012 8:17 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 21:05:07 -0300, jim deleskie said:
But here goes, 210x the size of normal really? 210% I'd have a
hard time believing. Did anyone else anywhere see a route leak
equal to
On Oct 5, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Barry Shein wrote:
Well, XNS (Xerox Networking System from PARC) used basically MAC
addresses. Less a demonstration of success than that it has been
tried. But it's where ethernet MAC addresses come from, they're just
XNS addresses and maybe this has changed but
In case you missed it
On Oct 5, 2012, at 7:05 PM, jim deleskie deles...@gmail.com wrote:
I know that I should know better then comment on networks others then
my own, ( and I know to never comment on my own publicly :) )
But here goes, 210x the size of normal really? 210% I'd have a hard
On 10/05/2012 05:25 PM, Barry Shein wrote:
5. Bits is bits.
I don't know how to say that more clearly.
An ipv6 address is a string of 128 bits with some segmentation
implications (net part, host part.)
A host name is a string of bits of varying length. But it's still just
ones and zeros, an
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Barry Shein b...@world.std.com wrote:
5. Bits is bits.
I don't know how to say that more clearly.
Hi Barry,
Bits is bits and atoms is atoms so lets swap all the iron for helium
and see how that works out for us.
You can say bits as bits as clearly as you like
On 10/5/2012 9:11 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
On 10/05/2012 05:25 PM, Barry Shein wrote:
5. Bits is bits.
I don't know how to say that more clearly.
An ipv6 address is a string of 128 bits with some segmentation
implications (net part, host part.)
A host name is a string of bits of
Those who know Fred and knew Jon personally might want to throw an oar in the
water on this blog posting from last month...
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4591
And that's not mentioning, of course, the people who want to throw the oar
*at* ESR: I know he's a polarizing individual. :-)
Cheers,
--
Jay Ashworth wrote:
Those who know Fred and knew Jon personally might want to throw an oar in the
water on this blog posting from last month...
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4591
And that's not mentioning, of course, the people who want to throw the oar
*at* ESR: I know he's a polarizing
http://bgp.he.net/net/100.100.0.0/24#_bogon
A surprising number of large transit ASes appear to be more than willing
to accept this prefix from AS4847.
a private address space leak? and propagated. i am deeply shocked.
wtf did people think would happen?
randy
On Thu, 4 Oct 2012, Tom Taylor wrote:
Who drops IPv6 fragments in their network, under what circumstances?
People who run 7600 with SUP720 and who hasn't turned on a certain
command.
http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2011-September/040653.html
#platform ipv6 acl fragment hardware
On 10/5/12 5:08 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
http://bgp.he.net/net/100.100.0.0/24#_bogon
A surprising number of large transit ASes appear to be more than willing
to accept this prefix from AS4847.
a private address space leak? and propagated. i am deeply shocked.
wtf did people think would happen?
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Barry Shein b...@world.std.com wrote:
In Singapore in June 2011 I gave a talk at HackerSpaceSG about just
doing away with IP addresses entirely, and DNS.
About the only obvious objection, other than vague handwaves about
compute efficiency, is it would
On 10/04/2012 04:36 PM, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Sander Steffann wrote:
The closer you get to the edge the more common it might become...
iACLs should be implemented at the network edge to drop all IPv4 and IPv6
traffic - including non-initial fragments -
I had toyed with the idea that maybe we needed an identity based routing
system. Addressing doesn't change because it's the physical map of the network.
Instead what you need is a set of identity banking servers, either arranged
by organization or contract, that hold a public key and that your
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:29 AM, joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:
by all accounts this has been advertised since 8/24.
space allocated: 2012-03-13
that's 5 months and 11 days too long.
On Oct 5, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:29 AM, joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:
by all accounts this has been advertised since 8/24.
space allocated: 2012-03-13
that's 5 months and 11 days too long.
I suspect not everyone has updated their
Wouldn't that implicate the routing system to have, in essence, one routing
entry for every host on the network?
That would be the moral equivalent to just dropping down to a global ethernet
fabric to replace IP and using mac addresses for routing. I'll give you one
guess as to how well that
use this:
http://www.team-cymru.org/Services/Bogons/bgp.html
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
On Oct 5, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:29 AM, joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:
by all accounts this has
On 10/5/12 8:18 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Oct 5, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:29 AM, joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:
by all accounts this has been advertised since 8/24.
space allocated: 2012-03-13
that's 5 months and 11 days too long.
I
Our issue is the templates were updated except for all but one type of device.
If you see issues with 2914 folks can ping me off-list.
- jared
On Oct 5, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Ben Bartsch wrote:
use this:
http://www.team-cymru.org/Services/Bogons/bgp.html
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:18 AM,
by all accounts this has been advertised since 8/24.
space allocated: 2012-03-13
that's 5 months and 11 days too long.
no one noticed the other leaks
Don't change anything! That would...change things!
Obviously my idea to use the host name directly as a src/dest address
rather than convert it to an integer is not a small, incremental
change. It's more in the realm of a speculative proposal.
But I'm not sure that arguing that our string of
- Original Message -
From: Barry Shein b...@world.std.com
Don't change anything! That would...change things!
Your man; he is made of straw. :-)
Obviously my idea to use the host name directly as a src/dest address
rather than convert it to an integer is not a small, incremental
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