The Verge article about Verizon's Sandy Cleanup Efforts in Manhattan

2012-11-19 Thread Derek Ivey
I saw this on Reddit and thought it was fascinating. I figured I'd share it here too since no one else did. http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/17/3655442/restoring-verizon-service-manhattan-hurricane-sandy Derek

fiber termination tools

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Lewis
We've always done our own fiber termination in-house using Corning Unicam (currently Unicam Pretium) tool kits and ends. Over the years I've dealt with fiber (primarily 62.5um mm FDDI), I've noticed that fiber seems to come in two "styles". Some lets me strip the buffer and coating easily in

Re: [outages] NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread Mike Lyon
Anyone check out the NIST GPS Archive? http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/gpsarchive.cfm -Mike On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Sid Rao wrote: > We had multiple servers synchronized with Windows/MS time change their > clock to the year 2000 today. It broke many things, including AD > authe

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread George Herbert
crossreplying to outages list. Is anyone ELSE seeing GPS issues? This could well have been an unrelated issue on that particular PBX. If this was real, then the mother of all infrastructure attacks might be underway... One glitch on tick and tock and one malfunctioning PBX is not sufficient evi

RE: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread Wallace Keith
Just got paged with a pbx alarm that had 1970 as the year. By the time I logged in , it was showing 2012. Using GPS for time and date. -Original Message- From: Mark Andrews [mailto:ma...@isc.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:42 PM To: Van Wolfe Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: NTP

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Van Wolfe writes: > Hello, > > Did anyone else experience issues with NTP today? We had our server > times update to the year 2000 at around 3:30 MT, then revert back to 2012. > > Thanks, > Van NTP should be immune from this sort of behaviour unless you did a ntpdate at the wrong

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread Warren Bailey
Or you could just concede the fact that the navy is playing with time travel again. From my Galaxy Note II, please excuse any mistakes. Original message From: Scott Weeks Date: 11/19/2012 3:52 PM (GMT-08:00) To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: NTP Issues Today On 11/19

NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread Oscar Orosco
We had the same issue on our NTP server pointing to tick.usno.navy.mil. Set date back to year 2000. Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:21:55 -0700 From: Van Wolfe mailto:vanwo...@gmail.com>> To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: NTP Issues Today Message-ID: mailto:ca

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread Scott Weeks
--- wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: From: Warren Bailey Or you could just concede the fact that the navy is playing with time travel again. -- To finish this thread off for the archives... Apparently something was up with

Muni Fiber redux: nuts and volts

2012-11-19 Thread Jay Ashworth
Last May we talked at some length about municipally owned wholesale fiber, and whether it was a commercially feasible idea. For those who have a few minutes (I figure, it's a holiday; the Whacky Weekend starts early :-), I'd like some advice, input, pointers, or the like, on exactly how you *do*

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread Scott Weeks
On 11/19/12 6:32 PM, "Scott Weeks" wrote: >--- vanwo...@gmail.com wrote: >From: Van Wolfe > >Did anyone else experience issues with NTP today? We had our server >times update to the year 2000 at around 3:30 MT, then revert back to 2012. >- >You need

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread Clay Haynes
Scott, I can confirm this had happened on one of my test servers - it was pointing to tick.usno.navy.mil and tock.usno.navy.mil at the time. - Clay On 11/19/12 6:32 PM, "Scott Weeks" wrote: > > >--- vanwo...@gmail.com wrote: >From: Van Wolfe > >Did anyone else experience issues with NTP tod

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread Scott Weeks
--- vanwo...@gmail.com wrote: From: Van Wolfe Did anyone else experience issues with NTP today? We had our server times update to the year 2000 at around 3:30 MT, then revert back to 2012. - You need to provide more information. For example, what NTP

NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread Van Wolfe
Hello, Did anyone else experience issues with NTP today? We had our server times update to the year 2000 at around 3:30 MT, then revert back to 2012. Thanks, Van

Re: Fiber terminations -- UPC vs APC

2012-11-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On Nov 19, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Jeff Kell wrote: Looking for some guidance/references on the use of UPC versus APC terminations on fiber cabling. Traditionally we have done all of our fiber plant targeting data usage with UPC connectors. We are also looking at proposals for fiber distributi

Re: Fiber terminations -- UPC vs APC

2012-11-19 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Jeff Kell wrote: > Looking for some guidance/references on the use of UPC versus APC > terminations on fiber > cabling. Traditionally we have done all of our fiber plant targeting data > usage with > UPC connectors. We are also looking at proposals for fiber di

Re: Fiber terminations -- UPC vs APC

2012-11-19 Thread Alex Brooks
Hi, On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Jeff Kell wrote: > Looking for some guidance/references on the use of UPC versus APC > terminations on fiber > cabling. Something similar has recently been discussed on NANOG. It might be worth having a look though that discussion as well if you want more

Re: Fiber terminations -- UPC vs APC

2012-11-19 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Jeff Kell wrote: So are we doomed to having physically separated fiber plants with suitable connectors / jumpers dedicated to video? Anyone been down this snaky looking path? Yes. Someone comes up with the brilliant idea to have APC on all new installs, people end up us

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Nick Olsen
I stand corrected. That's what I get for going off memory. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: "Scott Whyte" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 4:48 PM To: n...@flhsi.com Subject: Re: Google/Youtube problems On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:1

Re: Fiber terminations -- UPC vs APC

2012-11-19 Thread Walter Keen
Where I work we maintain a mix of Telecom, Data, and CATV networking. APC is REQUIRED per many manufacturers for video. It reduces reflections of the signal which in the video world can cause quite a few headaches and has the potential to have severe impact on video quality. Also, if you're l

Re: Fiber terminations -- UPC vs APC

2012-11-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:37:05 -0500, Jeff Kell said: > The video folks are set, determined, and insistent that they need APC > terminations. > > All data references I have found preach UPC. Remember - the nozzles on unleaded gas pumps aren't interchangeable with the ones that dispense leaded gas (

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Scott Whyte
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: > I think this would be true if they offered some form of paid peering. > > Google want's a good fast route to your customers, And your customers want > a good fast route to Google. > > IF Google ran its transit at or near congestion. This could

Fiber terminations -- UPC vs APC

2012-11-19 Thread Jeff Kell
Looking for some guidance/references on the use of UPC versus APC terminations on fiber cabling. Traditionally we have done all of our fiber plant targeting data usage with UPC connectors. We are also looking at proposals for fiber distribution plant for video, and the possibility of using som

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Nov 19, 2012, at 22:24, Ray Soucy wrote: > The universal translator is still a few years out it seems. The universal character set is widely deployed, though. The universal translator just can't do it's thing if people still don't manage to send the simplest emails without mojibake (google

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Ray Soucy
The universal translator is still a few years out it seems. Written that way it's borderline insulting. ;-) 2012/11/19 Jon Lewis : > Pourquoi demandez-vous des questions NANOG que Wanadoo peut répondre? > > Hopefully google translate hasn't butchered that too badly. > > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Pie

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Scott Weeks
--- jle...@lewis.org wrote: From: Jon Lewis Pourquoi demandez-vous des questions NANOG que Wanadoo peut répondre? Hopefully google translate hasn't butchered that too badly. - It said something about eggs? Were you hungry for some RA egg

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread jipe
Le 19 nov. 2012 à 17:56, Pierre-Yves Maunier a écrit : > Hi, > > I think few people understand French on this list. You should try FRnOG. Ouups, of course the message was intended to FRnoOG Sorry for the noise guys. -- J

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Nick Olsen
I think this would be true if they offered some form of paid peering. Google want's a good fast route to your customers, And your customers want a good fast route to Google. IF Google ran its transit at or near congestion. This could degrade your customers performance. After so long, You'd cont

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Michael Loftis
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:59:22PM +0200, Saku Ytti > wrote: > > What I'm trying to say, I can't see youtube generating anywhere nearly > > enough revenue who shift 10% (or more) of Internet. And to explain this > > conun

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Joly MacFie
WIth my limited understanding of such topics I've long been confused by something I read a couple of years back - in an Arbor report perhaps - to the effect that by being the originator of so much traffic, and as they built out their own network, Google were making money on transit. Can anyone ela

Re: Youtube

2012-11-19 Thread Karlin König
2012/11/19 Glauber Derlland > Hi, > > Anyone know what's going to inform with Youtube here in Brazil this > horrible, super slow it is already 14 days. > > -- > > Glauber Derlland > 81-3497-7250 / 81-8859-3306 / 81-4062-9207 / 11-4063-0189 > INOC-DBA.br: 262792*100 > www.vescnet.com.br > msn: ves

RE: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Jean-Francois . TremblayING
Jamie Bowden a écrit sur 19/11/2012 12:16:31 PM : > Having said that, I can't recall having seen any Quebecois posting > in French here, [snip] The intersection of Quebecois who speak only French and those who have anything to do with networking is hopefully very close to 0. That said, our ty

Youtube

2012-11-19 Thread Glauber Derlland
Hi, Anyone know what's going to inform with Youtube here in Brazil this horrible, super slow it is already 14 days. -- Glauber Derlland 81-3497-7250 / 81-8859-3306 / 81-4062-9207 / 11-4063-0189 INOC-DBA.br: 262792*100 www.vescnet.com.br msn: vesc.net@hotmail. http://as262792.peeringdb.com/

Generic IP Connectivity Provisioning Profile

2012-11-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear all, Ron suggested I share this document in this mailing list in order to assess whether there is interest from the nanog community to carry out this effort within IETF. If you are supporting this effort, please voice it. Your feedback will help Ron in making a decision to AD-sponsor this

Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-19 Thread Dylan N
IIRC, EDIS, at least,will give you large blocks and delegate reverse DNS authority (+ assign your v6 block to your RIPE handle/info) if you ask. On 11/18/2012 5:53 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > Dear NANOG@, > > I came across an interesting problem in trying to find an affordable > KVM p

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:16 , Jamie Bowden wrote: > Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside. Last time I checked, Canada > counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks who > don't speak much, if any, English. Having said that, I can't recall having > seen any

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
Il serait mieux si vous contactez directement d'Orange. On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, jipe foo wrote: Bonjour ? tous, Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur les plages d'adresses suivantes: inetnum:81.253.0.0 - 81.253.95.255 netname:ORANGE-FRANCE-HSIAB des

RE: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Jamie Bowden
Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside. Last time I checked, Canada counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks who don't speak much, if any, English. Having said that, I can't recall having seen any Quebecois posting in French here, but I find it hard to b

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Lewis
Pourquoi demandez-vous des questions NANOG que Wanadoo peut répondre? Hopefully google translate hasn't butchered that too badly. On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Pierre-Yves Maunier wrote: Hi, I think few people understand French on this list. You should try FRnOG. Pierre-Yves Maunier Le 19 novembre

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Pierre-Yves Maunier
Hi, I think few people understand French on this list. You should try FRnOG. Pierre-Yves Maunier Le 19 novembre 2012 17:48, jipe foo a écrit : > Bonjour à tous, > > Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur les > plages d'adresses suivantes: > > inetnum:81.25

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/19/12 5:59 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: What I'm trying to say, I can't see youtube generating anywhere nearly enough revenue who shift 10% (or more) of Internet. And to explain this conundrum to myself, I've speculated accounting magic (which I'd frown upon) and leveraging market position to get

Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread jipe foo
Bonjour à tous, Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur les plages d'adresses suivantes: inetnum:81.253.0.0 - 81.253.95.255 netname:ORANGE-FRANCE-HSIAB descr: Orange France / Wanadoo service country:FR admin-c:AR10027-RIPE tech-

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-11-19 06:30 -0800), Leo Bicknell wrote: > Consider a different model. Google checks out your gmail account, and > discovers you really like Red Bull and from your YouTube profile knows > you watch a lot of Ke$ha videos. It also discovers there are a lot more Sure. I have no doubt the m

RE: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
For some providers this might be an interesting revenue stream in these days where we need to build ever faster backbones to carry more and more video traffic for users that want to pay less and less for high-speed internet connectivity adam -Original Message- From: Adam Vitkovsky [mailto:

re: 25Mbps vs 4 Mbps

2012-11-19 Thread Nick Olsen
It's all about if the bandwidth is there to use. I'm sure every youtube caching server has a connection which exceeds 4Mb/s. How does a faster connection help? It allows the video to fill the buffer faster. Allowing for smoother playback on less bandwidth consistent circuits. Do you need it re

RE: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
>From the latest csco prime presentation it appears it offers similar functionality in one of the modules that one can buy to it so that providers can have a sneak peak on these type of data in order to sell them to third parties Though I wouldn't even know whom to sell such information Nor have I

Re: 25Mbps vs 4 Mbps

2012-11-19 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Glen Kent wrote: The question then is that how does going for a higher BW connection from the service provider help? That is like asking if a 600 bhp car is 6 times better than a 100 bhp car. I'd say you definitely can benefit in surfing speed etc up to somewhere 5-15 me

25Mbps vs 4 Mbps

2012-11-19 Thread Glen Kent
Hi, The service provider(s) pipe that takes all web traffic from my laptop to the central servers (assume youtube) remain same whether i take a 4Mbps or a 25Mbps connection from my service provider. This means that the internet connection that i take from my service provider only affects the last

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:59:22PM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote: > What I'm trying to say, I can't see youtube generating anywhere nearly > enough revenue who shift 10% (or more) of Internet. And to explain this > conundrum to myself, I've speculated accounting magic (which I'd frown

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-11-19 08:27 -0500), Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > Second, I see no reason why that requires anything close - not even within a > couple orders of magnitude - of 10% of the Internet's revenue to be > profitable. Why would you assume such a thing? Agreed, 10% of Internet's revenue would

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Nov 19, 2012, at 03:05 , Saku Ytti wrote: > On (2012-11-18 23:47 +0100), Daniel Suchy wrote: > >> Is anyone else seeing similar problems with Google/Youtube? > > My advice is, host the content locally. Sound advice, IMHO. > I'm bit curious about market position youtube has. GOOG claims you

RE: Dns sometimes fails using Google DNS / automatic dnssec

2012-11-19 Thread MailPlus| David Hofstee
fixed... --- David Hofstee -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Yunhong Gu [mailto:g...@google.com] Verzonden: donderdag 15 november 2012 18:29 Aan: Jay Ford CC: MailPlus| David Hofstee; nanog@nanog.org Onderwerp: Re: Dns sometimes fails using Google DNS / automatic dnssec

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-11-18 23:47 +0100), Daniel Suchy wrote: > Is anyone else seeing similar problems with Google/Youtube? My advice is, host the content locally. Certain Finnish domestic SPs had issues with youtube during peak hours for years, when content came via Stockholm, if content came from mainland