On Sun, 7 Apr 2013, Christopher Morrow wrote:
I wonder how much more painful just upgrading the dsl plant to support
v6 would be vs deploying the cgn equipment and funneling users through
that :(
IPv6 deployment is not a short term solution to IPv4 address depletion.
Would you be less upset
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 01:40:09 -0400, Christopher Morrow said:
> I wonder how much more painful just upgrading the dsl plant to support v6
> would be vs deploying the cgn equipment and funneling users through that :(
The answer depends on whether the person making the decision thinks they'll
have l
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Julien Goodwin wrote:
> >> ...CGN will not impact the access,
> >> reliability, speed, or security of Verizon’s broadband services. ...
> ...
> >
>
> Good luck with that, pretty much by definition it has to do all four
> (albeit at levels that shouldn't be detectab
On 07/04/13 12:11, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
> On 6 April 2013 18:24, cb.list6 wrote:
>> Interesting.
>>
>> http://www22.verizon.com/support/residential/internet/highspeedinternet/networking/troubleshooting/portforwarding/123897.htm
>
>
...
>> ...CGN will not impact the access,
>> reliabilit
On 4/6/13, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
> On 4/6/2013 6:24 PM, cb.list6 wrote:
>
> I'd love to see a CGN box that is cheaper than IPv4 addresses currently
> are on the transfer market.
You mean like a few linux servers running iptables nat-masquerade?
You think the "Carrier Grade" in "Carrier Grade
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
I'd love to see a CGN box that is cheaper than IPv4 addresses currently
are on the transfer market.
That depends on what you think the prices are for IPv4 addresses and what
you think the prices are for CGN boxes. At the prices I'm hearing, it's
che
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> From: "cb.list6"
> Interesting.
>
http://www22.verizon.com/support/residential/internet/highspeedinternet/networking/troubleshooting/portforwarding/123897.htm
What I find amusing is how they call it "Carrier Grade NAT" one time, and
then switch to calling it "Carr
On 4/6/2013 6:24 PM, cb.list6 wrote:
Interesting.
http://www22.verizon.com/support/residential/internet/highspeedinternet/networking/troubleshooting/portforwarding/123897.htm
I'd love to see a CGN box that is cheaper than IPv4 addresses currently
are on the transfer market.
Matthew Kaufman
On 6 April 2013 18:24, cb.list6 wrote:
> Interesting.
>
> http://www22.verizon.com/support/residential/internet/highspeedinternet/networking/troubleshooting/portforwarding/123897.htm
> What is CGN - and How to opt-out The number and types of devices using the
> Internet have increased dramati
It would be nice to get an update from them regarding their IPv6 plans.
Their IPv6 support page still says they will start deploying "3Q12" :(.
On 4/6/2013 9:32 PM, Joshua Smith wrote:
Very interesting indeed. Way to do the right thing here Verizon. This may be
the first time I've been happy t
On 4/6/13, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:38:06 -0400, shawn wilson said:
case, you shouldn't see any valid ICMP redirects. They're there mostly so
> things kind-of-sort-of work even if you botch it (so for instance, even if
> you whiff your default route accidentally,
Good to see that they are providing a way for users to opt out. I'm hoping
that other ISP's will do the same when they implement CGN.
Oliver
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Very interesting indeed. Way to do the right thing here Verizon. This may be
the first time I've been happy to be a Comcast customer.
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On Apr 6, 2013, at 9:24 PM, "cb.list6" wrote:
> Interesting.
On 2013-04-07 02:20, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
Although hetzner.de claims that this whole loss is outside of their
own
network, I'm inclined to deduce that the loss might actually be
concentrated on their own KPN / eurorings.net router --
kpn-gw.hetzner.de (134.222.107.21), and perhaps oc
On 2013-W14-5 21:27 -0700, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
> On 2013-W14-6 05:04 +0300, Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote:
> > On 2013-04-06 04:32, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >There has been at least a 25% packet loss between hetzner.de and
> > >cox.net
> > >in the last couple of ho
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:38:06 -0400, shawn wilson said:
> What would break if u dropped all ICMP packets with redirects on public
> facing boxes?
Presumably nothing, as long as you guaranteed that your IP address, netmask,
and routes actually match the reality of your network configuration. In th
We are looking into doing cableTV/HFC distribution on campus, and fiber
runs for HFC typically run APC connectors to avoid reflectance on the
analog HFC signal where it is significant. We we're looking at
converting some existing data UPC to APC for existing runs, and on the
new ones either do a p
Thanks, using an external CWDM mux is an option we're explorering.
Frank
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We are told this week, by NPR*, that the UN will next week declare 'Garbage
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On Apr 6, 2013 3:13 AM, "Jimmy Hess" wrote:
>
> Failing all that, if the LANs are large, and a large number of ICMP
> redirects would occur, it may be preferrable to turn ICMP redirects
> off for those LANs on their routers
>
What would break if u dropped all ICMP packets with redirects on publ
On 06/04/13 21:50, Thomas Weible - FLEXOPTIX wrote:
> Matt Addison [mailto:matt.addi...@lists.evilgeni.us] wrote:
>>
>> How much spare margin do you have? Could you roll your own with a pair
>> of mismatched (C|D)WDM XFPs and a mux on each end?
> Typically you have 23dB powerbudget for the ZR (CWDM
Matt Addison [mailto:matt.addi...@lists.evilgeni.us] wrote:
>
> How much spare margin do you have? Could you roll your own with a pair
> of mismatched (C|D)WDM XFPs and a mux on each end?
Typically you have 23dB powerbudget for the ZR (CWDM or DWDM) - maybe +2 dB
through selection of TOSA. A CWDM
On 4/6/13, Keith Medcalf wrote:
>
Although spoofed ICMP redirects mightalso be abused to
intercept/quietly sniff traffic
on a switched LAN;
The default gateway responding with a redirect in that situation
is the normal case where you expect to receive an ICMP redirect. ; in
that particular case
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