RE: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-15 Thread John van Oppen
To be honest, that is the problem with most smaller ISPs, their uplinks are not all 10G... The only way to have users who reliably get high speed tests is to make sure one does not have 1G upstream links but obviously for a smaller provider that would not be an option. I think this is why

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-15 Thread Nick Guy
X2 on Joe. ---Nick On 7/14/13 6:52 PM, John van Oppen jvanop...@spectrumnet.us wrote: Yep, that would be us. :) Lots of 100/100 and 1g/1g home Ethernet connections around the Seattle area. :) Joe was a great guy, we miss him still, one of the nicest guys I knew. John van Oppen Spectrum

Ruxcon 2013 Final Call For Papers

2013-07-15 Thread cfp
Ruxcon 2013 Final Call For Papers Melbourne, Australia, October 26th-27th CQ Function Centre http://www.ruxcon.org.au/call-for-papers/ The Ruxcon team is pleased to announce the final call for papers for Ruxcon. This year the conference will take place over the weekend of the 26th and 27th of

[NANOG-announce] Announcing the October 2013 NANOG Elections

2013-07-15 Thread Sylvie LaPerriere
Hello NANOGers! This message is to encourage you, as a participant of this community, to become NANOG members and to consider standing for a leadership position at our upcoming October elections. The call for Board members nominations will be from August 9 to September 20 and for committee

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:45:26 -0500, Aaron Wendel said: We (ISPs) are all compelled to provide information from time to time under a court order. The PRISM program is voluntary. Ask the ex-CEO of Qwest how voluntary that sort of stuff is. pgpyp3UhrUiFO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:45:26 -0500, Aaron Wendel said: We (ISPs) are all compelled to provide information from time to time under a court order. The PRISM program is voluntary. Ask the ex-CEO of Qwest how voluntary that sort

RE: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-15 Thread Robert Bergman
Nice to see our network talked about on here :0) -Original Message- From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:33 PM To: Joe Hamelin Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: One of our own in the Guardian. Someone I know in Washington state has 100/100 at

RE: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-15 Thread Robert Bergman
I'm happy to say we did not use federal or state money to build the fiber or the network in Grant County. There is some of that floating around us though. -Original Message- From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:37 PM To:

RE: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-15 Thread Nick Guy
Many of the Washington state PUDs very early in the day took on the charge of delivering broadband to places that the telco's did not see ROI for. It did and still does make sense to deliver fiber along with power to the home but that is the kind of long term thinking that can be costly up

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-15 Thread Warren Bailey
I don't think the conversation is based around the method by which information is intercepted. I hope the conversation is aligned with its reasoning for disclosure - the American people stopping a government who is known for abusing it's power. Obviously this does not mean physically stopping

tools and techniques to pinpoint and respond to loss on a path

2013-07-15 Thread Andy Litzinger
Hi, Does anyone have any recommendations on how to pinpoint and react to packet loss across the internet? preferably in an automated fashion. For detection I'm currently looking at trying smoketrace to run from inside my network, but I'd love to be able to run traceroutes from my edge

Re: tools and techniques to pinpoint and respond to loss on a path

2013-07-15 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jul 15, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Andy Litzinger andy.litzin...@theplatform.com wrote: I'd like to be able to collect enough relevant data to pinpoint the trouble spot as much as possible so I can take it to the ISPs and request a solution. The blackouts are so quick that it's impossible to

Re: tools and techniques to pinpoint and respond to loss on a path

2013-07-15 Thread Blake Dunlap
Personally I would never expect simple routed connectivity across the public internet to be such a high level of reliability, without at least diverse path tunnels running route protocols internally. While any provider will attempt to fix peer / upstream issues as they can, any SLA you would have

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-15 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
Dropping everything at once may dilute the debate as I am sure your government and every other government that may be proved to be involved will try to focus the discussion on small and less damaging issues until the bigger ones are forgotten. Reveal something, wait a few weeks/months, reveal