Re: How big is the Internet?

2013-08-16 Thread Jorge Amodio
You are absolutely right -Jorge On Aug 15, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: Ok, I'll put on my flame-proof undies, have some fun and bite at this one... --- s...@donelan.com wrote: From: Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com :: It seems odd that there are

Re: How big is the Internet? usage of electricity = coal for ICT

2013-08-16 Thread Vesna Manojlovic
Hi, On 14/08/13 9:00 , Sean Donelan wrote: I should have remembered, NANOG prefers to correct things. So here are several estimates about how much IP/Internet traffic is downloaded in a month. Does anyone have better numbers, or better souces of numbers that can be shared? No source, but a

Re: How big is the Internet?

2013-08-16 Thread Dave Sparro
On 8/16/2013 12:46 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Aug 16, 2013, at 00:37 , Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Seth Mattinen wrote: We'll also need this data in units of number of Libraries of Congress. The researchers at the Library of Congress are more than happy to

Re: How big is the Internet?

2013-08-16 Thread bmanning
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:37:20AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: Even the researchers at the Library of Congress, if you give them enough beer and beg them enough, will eventually give you an estimate about the Library collection size as of the end of the last year. What so special about the

Re: WaPo writes about vulnerabilities in Supermicro IPMIs

2013-08-16 Thread Leo Bicknell
On Aug 15, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Brandon Martin lists.na...@monmotha.net wrote: As to why people wouldn't put them behind dedicated firewalls, imagine something like a single-server colo scenario. I have asked about this on other lists, but I'll ask here. Does anyone know of a small (think

Re: WaPo writes about vulnerabilities in Supermicro IPMIs

2013-08-16 Thread Alain Hebert
Hi, I find it odd that this is suddenly news... There is plenty of security updates for iBMC/iDrac/etc from IBM/HP/Dell/etc over the years. But: You can use ipmitool, rootkit/exploit some Linux box and upload your own firmware in that iBMC/iDrac/etc... for example the BMC

Practical effects of DNSSEC deployment

2013-08-16 Thread Steven Bellovin
There was an interesting paper at Usenix Security on the effects of deploying DNSSEC; see https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity13/measuring-practical-impact-dnssec-deployment . The difference in geographical impact was quite striking. --Steve Bellovin,

Cisco DMVPN Configuration Question

2013-08-16 Thread Ray Soucy
Don't usually poke NANOG for a second pair of eyes, but got hit with an urgent need to get connectivity up on a small budget. I've run into a situation where I require multiple DMVPN spokes to be behind a single NAT IP (picture of things to come with CGN?) The DMVPN endpoint works fine behind

mail.mil contact?

2013-08-16 Thread Antonio Querubin
Wondering if anyone else is receiving reports of email to mail.mil addresses being delayed or refused? The mail.mil mx appear to be selectively refusing mail. If anyone has good (non-email) contact info for the mail.mil operators please send it my way. Thanks. Antonio Querubin e-mail:

Re: Cisco DMVPN Configuration Question

2013-08-16 Thread Garrett Skjelstad
No way around this with DMVPN. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2013, at 9:05, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote: Don't usually poke NANOG for a second pair of eyes, but got hit with an urgent need to get connectivity up on a small budget. I've run into a situation where I require multiple

Weekly Routing Table Report

2013-08-16 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to

Re: How big is the Internet?

2013-08-16 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 16 Aug 2013, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:37:20AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: Even the researchers at the Library of Congress, if you give them enough beer and beg them enough, will eventually give you an estimate about the Library collection size as of

How big is the Internet? - Results

2013-08-16 Thread Sean Donelan
Thanks for all the comments. Through the entire thread on-line and off-line only one person contributed an estimate Patrick Gilmore said: All that said: My back-of-the-envelope math says the Internet is order of 1 exabyte/day, as defined by my own rules on what counts as the

Re: How big is the Internet? - Results

2013-08-16 Thread Jon Lewis
On Fri, 16 Aug 2013, Sean Donelan wrote: Thanks for all the comments. Through the entire thread on-line and off-line only one person contributed an estimate Patrick Gilmore said: All that said: My back-of-the-envelope math says the Internet is order of 1 exabyte/day, as defined by my own

will ISP peer with 2 local WAN routers?

2013-08-16 Thread Adam Greene
Hi guys, I have a customer who peers via eBGP with Lightpath aka Cablevision (AS 6128) and Level3 (AS 3356) and wants to do some dual-WAN router redundancy. I have heard that carriers will sometimes agree to set up a /29 WAN subnet for a customer and peer with (2) customer routers. The

Re: will ISP peer with 2 local WAN routers?

2013-08-16 Thread Justin Vocke
The gotcha with that is then you need a switch in front of the routers. I'd just setup a carrier on each router and run ibgp between. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net wrote: Hi guys, I have a customer who peers via eBGP with Lightpath

Re: will ISP peer with 2 local WAN routers?

2013-08-16 Thread Randy Carpenter
Time Warner installed a Juniper EX4200 as the CPE device for us, so we connected 2 routers and had two separate BGP sessions. They have us a /29 to accomplish it. -Randy On Aug 16, 2013, at 16:53, Justin Vocke justin.vo...@gmail.com wrote: The gotcha with that is then you need a switch in

RE: will ISP peer with 2 local WAN routers?

2013-08-16 Thread Adam Greene
Thanks, Justin. Yes, we considered that option, too. But then if one WAN router goes down, the customer will only have connectivity through a single upstream provider. We'd prefer to maintain connectivity to both even if a router fails. Switches in front of the routers is no problem.

Re: will ISP peer with 2 local WAN routers?

2013-08-16 Thread Peter Kristolaitis
But the switches themselves are a single point of failure, so if a switch dies you still only have a single provider (assuming one switch per provider). ;) All you're doing is moving the your single point of failure from the routers to the switches, with arguably very little increase in

RE: will ISP peer with 2 local WAN routers?

2013-08-16 Thread Adam Greene
Pete, Good point, thanks. Yes, in this case, there is some cause to believe that the switches will prove more reliable than the routers. They're older 7200VXR's and have had some lockups in the past, possibly due to PA card / IOS incompatibilities. But you're right, we are also considering

APC UPS Advice/Guidance for Canada 120/240

2013-08-16 Thread Nick Khamis
Hello Everyone, We are in the market for a APC UPS, and had a few questions. We are not that familiar with APC, and was hoping for some clarity. Our power demands will be for a unit that will sustain 3 kW/4 kVA scalable to 8 kVA. Input: The first issue is that I see all the units default with

Re: APC UPS Advice/Guidance for Canada 120/240

2013-08-16 Thread Joe Hamelin
http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-Locking-Adapter-Straight-Connector/dp/B001H9TSEW If you're not sure, then spend for an hour with a licensed electrician. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, We

The Cidr Report

2013-08-16 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Aug 16 21:13:27 2013 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

BGP Update Report

2013-08-16 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 08-Aug-13 -to- 15-Aug-13 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS580049023 2.8% 215.0 -- DNIC-ASBLK-05800-06055 - DoD Network Information Center 2

Google having issues?

2013-08-16 Thread wingar
Hey guys, I’m hearing reports of Google services (Search, Youtube, Mail, etc) going down all over the place, providing extremely spotty service. Works fine for me right now, but a lot of people seem to be having problems all over the world. Any ideas what’s going on? Thanks! ~ Em

Re: Google having issues?

2013-08-16 Thread Derek Ivey
I was having a hard time getting to Google Maps from my Verizon FiOS connection and also from my Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel. I was able to ping them though. Didn't try any other google services. Derek On Aug 16, 2013, at 7:32 PM, win...@team-metro.net win...@team-metro.net wrote: Hey

Re: Google having issues?

2013-08-16 Thread Scott Howard
I've two 2 short outages to both Google Search and Google Mail/Apps over the last 30 mins. Both cleared after a few minutes. For Search at least it was returning a Google error page. Comcast in the Bay Area. Scott On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM, win...@team-metro.net wrote: Hey guys,

RE: Google having issues?

2013-08-16 Thread Nathan Anderson
At about 5 minutes to 4:00p PDT, downforeveryoneorjustme.com confirmed that it's not just you! for google.com; in fact, it's still saying that, although I can reach Google services on our network now. I could also ping Google, but I tried to open a connection to port 80 on google.com via

Re: Google having issues?

2013-08-16 Thread Hannes Frederic Sowa
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:29:30PM +, win...@team-metro.net wrote: I’m hearing reports of Google services (Search, Youtube, Mail, etc) going down all over the place, providing extremely spotty service. Works fine for me right now, but a lot of people seem to be having problems all over

Re: APC UPS Advice/Guidance for Canada 120/240

2013-08-16 Thread Michael Brown
On 13-08-16 05:47 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: We are in the market for a APC UPS, and had a few questions. We are not that familiar with APC, and was hoping for some clarity. Our power demands will be for a unit that will sustain 3 kW/4 kVA scalable to 8 kVA. The model you're looking at looks good

Re: APC UPS Advice/Guidance for Canada 120/240

2013-08-16 Thread Michael Brown
On 13-08-16 10:33 PM, Michael Brown wrote: VOLTAGE = 5 | 6 | 14 (5?120V, 6?208 or 240V, 14?120/240V combo i.e. 2 hots, neutral and ground) That would be: VOLTAGE = 5 | 6 | 14 (5-120V, 6-208 or 240V, 14-120/240V combo i.e. 2 hots, neutral and ground) The mailing list ate my Unicode arrows. Nom