Re: abha ahuja

2013-10-19 Thread Anurag Bhatia
That was the year when I got my first computer (and thus too young to know her at that time) but have read quite a lot about her in recent times. Thanks for the post Randy. On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Brett Watson wrote: > Brilliant woman with a great sense of humor, just a wonderful pers

Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-19 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Pad 1310nm cross-connects? Date: Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 07:33:19PM -0700 Quoting Chris Costa (ccosta92...@gmail.com): > What are the opinions/views on attenuating short, 1310nm LR cross-connects. > Assume < 20m cable length and utilizing the same vendor optics on each > side of the link.

Re: In Over My Head -- What do I need to setup a tiny ISP?

2013-10-19 Thread Richard Golodner
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 20:57 +0100, Notify Me wrote: > Hi, Hello, I can not tell you how to set up an ISP. There are people on here that have worked on doing just that and a good place for you to start would be here: http://www.afnog.org/ Another good resource would be found at h

Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-19 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013, Chris Costa wrote: What are the opinions/views on attenuating short, 1310nm LR cross-connects. Assume < 20m cable length and utilizing the same vendor optics on each side of the link. Considering the LR transmit spec doesn't exceed the receiver's high threshold value do you

Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-19 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013, Chris Costa wrote: median RX range to avoid potential receiver burnout over time, or just leave it un-padded? By "padding", you mean "insert attenuator"? I have run networks with thousands of 10km optical links (1GBASE-LX, 10GBASE-LR) and none of them have used attenuato

Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-19 Thread Chris Costa
What are the opinions/views on attenuating short, 1310nm LR cross-connects. Assume < 20m cable length and utilizing the same vendor optics on each side of the link. Considering the LR transmit spec doesn't exceed the receiver's high threshold value do you pad the receiver closer to the median RX

In Over My Head -- What do I need to setup a tiny ISP?

2013-10-19 Thread Notify Me
Hi, Please allow me to apologize profusely if my post is offensive, or in error. I have been lurking on this list watching and learning from all the great posts here and am in awe of everyone here. I can only hope one day to be as knowledgeable as anyone on this list. That being said, some people

Re: FTTH for cable companies

2013-10-19 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
For cable companies who have the data service as part of the RFoG wavelengths to provide coax at the CPE, how do they handle collisions/timing on the upstream side ? Does the ONT provide TDMA slots for the upstream wavelength to ensure only one customer transmits RF at a time on the upstream ? Or

Re: abha ahuja

2013-10-19 Thread Brett Watson
Brilliant woman with a great sense of humor, just a wonderful person. Deeply missed. Typing with thumbs... > On Oct 19, 2013, at 15:36, Randy Bush wrote: > > abha ahuja, researcher and operator, died this day in 2001 at a > tragically early age. if you did not know her, search a bit. > she d

abha ahuja

2013-10-19 Thread Randy Bush
abha ahuja, researcher and operator, died this day in 2001 at a tragically early age. if you did not know her, search a bit. she did a lot, and with an open mind and heart. randy

Re: Fundamental questions of backbone design

2013-10-19 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM, wrote: > On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:33:16 +0530, Anurag Bhatia said: > > >localpref to customer routes then peering and finally transit. Does > this > >works well or you see issues with people who have 10+ prepends on some > >peering routes calling you to

Re: FTTH for cable companies

2013-10-19 Thread Phil Bedard
That's no different than what MSOs are deploying as well. Using things like DSG the STB is using IP these days to communicate with application servers, VoD, etc. Really the same as your VZW example, the STB uses DOCSIS for OOB signalling instead of straight RF. PON can use a RF video overlay or

ARIN Meetings – Weigh In on Future Format (till this Friday!)

2013-10-19 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - ARIN is considering the appropriate frequency and format of ARIN’s Public Policy and Members Meetings, and if you have any thoughts in this area, then it would be helpful if you could complete a short survey (which is open to both ARIN and NANOG communities) until Friday

Re: FTTH for cable companies

2013-10-19 Thread Phil Bedard
I think all of the MSOs in the US have long term (15-20 year) plans to also do FTTH. Advances in DOCSIS and coax technology seem to be outpacing those available on the telco twisted-pair side, so it delays forklifting the existing HFC plant. DOCSIS 3.1 requires some significant capital investment

Re: FTTH for cable companies

2013-10-19 Thread ML
On 10/19/2013 6:35 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: > I need a reality check... > > For telcos, going from barely twisted copper pair to FTTH presents huge > incremental improvement. FTTN is basically a stop gap medium term > solution that is more pleasing to some beancounters. > > However, for a cab

Re: FTTH for cable companies

2013-10-19 Thread Florin Veres
Also, RFoG keeps the same STBs as old-school FTTN, and for bean counters it's pretty hard to justify changing a LOT of STBs to IPTV ones. On Oct 19, 2013 4:17 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" wrote: > I believe the difference is fairly negligible between RFoG and IPTV. > RFoG allows the cable companies to le

Re: FTTH for cable companies

2013-10-19 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I believe the difference is fairly negligible between RFoG and IPTV. RFoG allows the cable companies to leverage the existing RF head end while FTTH requires a IPTV head end.IPTV is less familiar to most cable operators and requires new investment in facilities and skills. Mark On 10/1

FTTH for cable companies

2013-10-19 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
I need a reality check... For telcos, going from barely twisted copper pair to FTTH presents huge incremental improvement. FTTN is basically a stop gap medium term solution that is more pleasing to some beancounters. However, for a cable company, is there an advantage to deploy FTTH/GPON to bring