Re: How anti-NSA backlash could fracture the Internet along national borders - The Washington Post

2013-11-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > I can't be the only one to have been following this 12.8TB of neat-o-ness: > > http://www.bricscable.com/ " 34 000 km, 2 fibre pair, 12.8 Tbit/s" so you can get 80 waves on a single pair, 80 100g waves? that's 8tbps where's the missing

Re: Changing Google Geodatabase information

2013-11-02 Thread Pedro Cavaca
On 3 November 2013 02:59, Bryan Socha wrote: > I've been searching for a way to submit updates to google for > incorrect geodatabase information on our ip address assignments. > does anyone have a contact or know how to do this? > > You might want to look at: https://support.google.com/websearch

Changing Google Geodatabase information

2013-11-02 Thread Bryan Socha
I've been searching for a way to submit updates to google for incorrect geodatabase information on our ip address assignments. does anyone have a contact or know how to do this? Thanks, Bryan Socha

Re: How anti-NSA backlash could fracture the Internet along national borders - The Washington Post

2013-11-02 Thread Jorge Amodio
I've never seen a byte claiming any nationality, Internet network topology is not geopolitical (at least a vast percentage of it) and routing policy != politics. When now in a "cloud" world your data may get replicated anywhere, trying to create "islands" (which btw are not immune to eavesdropp

Re: How anti-NSA backlash could fracture the Internet along national borders - The Washington Post

2013-11-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:12:54PM -0400, Jay Ashworth wrote a message of 8 lines which said: > The balkanizing of the Net? > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/11/01/how-anti-nsa-backlash-could-fracture-the-internet-along-national-borders/ So, to host your content in t

Re: How anti-NSA backlash could fracture the Internet along national borders - The Washington Post

2013-11-02 Thread Jorge Amodio
LOL, I was typing on an iPad and didn't notice, s/nog/big/ Thanks for the catch. -J On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > I'm afraid I can't glark 'nog' in that sentence from context... > > > Jorge Amodio wrote: >> >> >> Saying that advocating for an open and global Internet

Re: How anti-NSA backlash could fracture the Internet along national borders - The Washington Post

2013-11-02 Thread Jay Ashworth
I'm afraid I can't glark 'nog' in that sentence from context... Jorge Amodio wrote: > >Saying that advocating for an open and global Internet is a nog part of >USG's cyber-espionage efforts is completely preposterous. > >-Jorge > >> On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: >> >> The bal

Re: How anti-NSA backlash could fracture the Internet along national borders - The Washington Post

2013-11-02 Thread Jorge Amodio
Saying that advocating for an open and global Internet is a nog part of USG's cyber-espionage efforts is completely preposterous. -Jorge > On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > The balkanizing of the Net? > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/11/01/how-ant

Re: How anti-NSA backlash could fracture the Internet along national borders - The Washington Post

2013-11-02 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Matthew Petach wrote: > > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:06 PM, John Levine wrote: >> > In article you >> > write: >> >>The balkanizing of the Net? >> >> >> >> >> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worl

Re: How anti-NSA backlash could fracture the Internet along national borders - The Washington Post

2013-11-02 Thread Matthew Petach
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:06 PM, John Levine wrote: > > In article you > write: > >>The balkanizing of the Net? > >> > >> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/11/01/how-anti-nsa-backlash-could-fracture-the-internet-along

Re: How anti-NSA backlash could fracture the Internet along national borders - The Washington Post

2013-11-02 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:06 PM, John Levine wrote: > In article you write: >>The balkanizing of the Net? >> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/11/01/how-anti-nsa-backlash-could-fracture-the-internet-along-national-borders/ > > I expect we'll hear lots of pontification, quiet

Re: How anti-NSA backlash could fracture the Internet along national borders - The Washington Post

2013-11-02 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >The balkanizing of the Net? > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/11/01/how-anti-nsa-backlash-could-fracture-the-internet-along-national-borders/ I expect we'll hear lots of pontification, quietly fading away when someone explains to the pontificators ju

Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic

2013-11-02 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:40 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: > On Nov 1, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Harry Hoffman > wrote: > > That's with a recommendation of using RC4. > it’s also with 1024 bit keys in the key exchange. > Better leverage quantum encryption tech to exchange those symmetric keys securely; I w

How anti-NSA backlash could fracture the Internet along national borders - The Washington Post

2013-11-02 Thread Jay Ashworth
The balkanizing of the Net? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/11/01/how-anti-nsa-backlash-could-fracture-the-internet-along-national-borders/ Cheers, - jra -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: Reverse DNS RFCs and Recommendations

2013-11-02 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > Also remember that this thread is on secure rDNS by the ISP, > which means you can't expect the ISP operate rDNS very securely > even though the ISP operate rest of networking not very securely. You're linking things together that are completely orthogonal... Sander

Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic

2013-11-02 Thread Michael Thomas
On 11/01/2013 07:18 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So even if Goog or Yahoo encrypt their data between DCs, what stops the NSA from decrypting that data? Or would it be done simply to make their lives a bit more of a PiTA to get the data they want? My bet is that when the said the were "partially" capa

Re: Reverse DNS RFCs and Recommendations

2013-11-02 Thread Masataka Ohta
Sander Steffann wrote: > Hi, Hi, >> Even if the CPE does so, which means there is no NAT, the key to >> update rDNS must, naturally, be contained only in DHCP reply to the >> CPE. > > You are misunderstanding the technology. Many cable operators offer a > cable modem in bridged mode so that the

Re: Reverse DNS RFCs and Recommendations

2013-11-02 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <5274def9.3040...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>, Masataka Ohta writes: > Mark Andrews wrote: > > >> Over the cable modem? > > > > Yes. > > OK. > > >> The cable modem is the CPE, which accept the DHCP packet to it. > > > > A cable modem both accepts DHCP packets (for management of the

Re: Reverse DNS RFCs and Recommendations

2013-11-02 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, Op 2 nov. 2013, om 12:16 heeft Masataka Ohta het volgende geschreven: > Mark Andrews wrote: > >> A cable modem both accepts DHCP packets (for management of the >> modem) and passes DHCP packets through to the customer device. > > Even if the CPE does so, which means there is no NAT, the k

Re: Reverse DNS RFCs and Recommendations

2013-11-02 Thread Masataka Ohta
Mark Andrews wrote: >> Over the cable modem? > > Yes. OK. >> The cable modem is the CPE, which accept the DHCP packet to it. > > A cable modem both accepts DHCP packets (for management of the > modem) and passes DHCP packets through to the customer device. Even if the CPE does so, which means

Re: Reverse DNS RFCs and Recommendations

2013-11-02 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <5274a77a.8090...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>, Masataka Ohta writes: > Mark Andrews wrote: > > >> Who can see the packets sent from the local ISP to the CPE > >> directly connected to the ISP? > > > > The dhcpd traffic coming in over the cable modem and you want to > > send secrets in

Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic

2013-11-02 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: > So even if Goog or Yahoo encrypt their data between DCs, what stops > the NSA from decrypting that data? Or would it be done simply to make > their lives a bit more of a PiTA to get the data they want? > > -Mike > I'm just gonna toss this URL o

Re: Reverse DNS RFCs and Recommendations

2013-11-02 Thread Masataka Ohta
Mark Andrews wrote: >> Who can see the packets sent from the local ISP to the CPE >> directly connected to the ISP? > > The dhcpd traffic coming in over the cable modem and you want to > send secrets in the clear over a channel like this. Over the cable modem? The cable modem is the CPE, which

Re: Reverse DNS RFCs and Recommendations

2013-11-02 Thread Masataka Ohta
Jimmy Hess wrote: > The trouble with end-to-end encryption as a solution;is the > difficulty/impossibility of establishing ipsec SAs with arbitrary > hosts on the internet; without manual pre-configuration of every pair of > hosts. In this case, the ISP and the CPE are physically an