Re: The Making of a Router

2013-12-28 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:09 AM, sten rulz wrote: > Hello Baldur, > > Your design regarding proxy arp for every VLAN might hit some issues. If > you look at the nanog history you will find people having issues with proxy > arp for large number of VLANs, what is your requirement for proxy arp? > D

Re: The Making of a Router

2013-12-28 Thread Matt Palmer
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 08:53:53AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > There is a significant value in "just plug it in and it works", and if > you don't figure your time investment (both up-front and on-going) into > the cost, you are greatly fooling yourself. What ISP-grade router are you using that is

Re: The Making of a Router

2013-12-28 Thread Matt Palmer
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 08:47:25PM -0500, Jon Sands wrote: > On 12/27/2013 8:18 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > >Brocade NetIron CER 2024F-4X goes for > >about $21k > > As one last aside, if you're paying 21k, you're paying a little more > than twice too much. Call Brocade and get yourself a real quo

Re: The Making of a Router

2013-12-28 Thread Randy Bush
> Pretty much what everyone else said. I'm a huge linux person, almost > everything I use is linux, run full Myth set up etc, but I wouldn't > use it for a high PPS situation like this. It's just asking for > suffering later, at the worst possible times. to paraphrase MO from many years ago (as i

Re: The Making of a Router

2013-12-28 Thread Blake Dunlap
Pretty much what everyone else said. I'm a huge linux person, almost everything I use is linux, run full Myth set up etc, but I wouldn't use it for a high PPS situation like this. It's just asking for suffering later, at the worst possible times. -Blake On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Shawn Wil

Re: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real life experiences?

2013-12-28 Thread Justin Wilson
MPLS has been one of Mikrotiks “selling points”. MPLS has been pretty stable for at least a year or more now. Their documentation has been kinda weak, but the implementation has been good. Justin -- Justin Wilson MTCNA ­ CCNA ­ MTCRE ­ MTCWE - COMTRAIN Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.m

Re: [SPAM]RE: [SPAM]RE: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real life experiences?

2013-12-28 Thread Dale Rumph
Out of all the network hardware I have worked on in operations these were by far some of the worst. I read lots of good things but like most things in life these just dont stack up against a Cisco or Juniper for stability and reliability. Most of the ISP's I have worked with were HSD but i also fol

Re: The Making of a Router

2013-12-28 Thread Shawn Wilson
Chris Adams wrote: >Once upon a time, Shawn Wilson said: >> I was hoping someone could give technical insight into why this is >good or not and not just "buy a box branded as a router because I said >so or your business will fail". I'm all for hearing about the business >theory of running an IS

Re: The Making of a Router

2013-12-28 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Shawn Wilson said: > I was hoping someone could give technical insight into why this is good or > not and not just "buy a box branded as a router because I said so or your > business will fail". I'm all for hearing about the business theory of running > an ISP (not my backgrou

Re: The Making of a Router

2013-12-28 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article you write: >It seems to be a pretty "hot button" issue, but I feel that modern hardware >is more than capable of pushing packets. The old wisdom of "only hardware >can do it efficiently" is starting to prove untrue. 10G might still be a >challenge (I haven't tested), but 1G is not e