Re: 10gbps peering subscriber switch recommendation

2014-01-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, January 07, 2014 12:47:45 PM Nick Hilliard wrote: it's the merchant silicon boxes which are driving high density 10g prices down,... As they should, and good news for us all, but... but most of these boxes tends to come with small fibs and tiny buffers which limits their

Re: 10gbps peering subscriber switch recommendation

2014-01-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday, January 06, 2014 11:53:14 PM Randy Bush wrote: the nice thing about buying bgp devices that can not hold a full table is that you can expense them in the year of purchase as opposed to amortizing them over 5 years or so. If only the bean counter saw things our way :-). Mark.

Re: Open source hardware

2014-01-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, January 07, 2014 05:12:38 PM Aled Morris wrote: In Europe, http://www.flexoptix.net are recommended. They also sell blank modules and give you a programmer too, so you can stock fewer spares and program them for whatever vendor you need in an outage/rapid deployment situation.

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread George, Wes
On 1/7/14, 11:10 PM, Adam Rothschild a...@latency.net wrote: I should probably add that there was a real router plugged into the ethernet port on the ONT, given a lack of support in the ActionTec code ... Interestingly, I have one of the later-generation ActionTecs, and VZ pushed a software

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, George, Wes wrote: Interestingly, I have one of the later-generation ActionTecs, and VZ pushed a software update to it at some point and it sprouted IPv6 config. I noticed the same thing on my router several months ago, but when I called to see if I could get IPv6 turned

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Brian Henson
The only major ISP that I seen so far that has rolled out is Comcast. Been probing the TW Cable people for months to see what their plans are for IPv6 in Ohio and all I have gotten is a million different stories. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.orgwrote:

L2TPv3/MPLS (TP) Pseudowire to preserve

2014-01-08 Thread Herro91
Hi, We have a new requirement to load balance across a couple of point to point ethernet links. The previous solution was handled by a few TDM circuits and MLPPP so that traffic was load balanced and any fragmentation/reassembly was handled by ML/PPP. Load balancing per flow is not really an

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Lee Howard
On 1/8/14 9:34 AM, Brian Henson marin...@gmail.com wrote: The only major ISP that I seen so far that has rolled out is Comcast. Been probing the TW Cable people for months to see what their plans are for IPv6 in Ohio and all I have gotten is a million different stories. TWC Ohio (residential

[service] RIPE NCC Technical Outage

2014-01-08 Thread Mirjam Kuehne
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Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Lee Howard l...@asgard.org wrote: I've read in some forums that there are pockets of FiOS users with IPv6 running. I've seen LLA on ActionTec modems. Something tells me that they will sneak up on us with a sudden deployment. would be grand if they'd let folk

EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread Nick Olsen
Looking for EIGRP support in a platform other than Cisco. Since it was opened up last year. We have a situation where we need to integrate into a network running EIGRP and would like to avoid cisco if at all possible. Any thoughts? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Vlade Ristevski
My actiontec router has had that IPv6 page for a while now. I'm 20 minutes outside NYC. However when I enable it, I still don't get a broadband IPv6 address in the System Monitoring tab. On 1/8/2014 8:26 AM, George, Wes wrote: On 1/7/14, 11:10 PM, Adam Rothschild a...@latency.net wrote: I

Re: EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Jan 9, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Any thoughts? http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-savage-eigrp-01 --- Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net // http://www.arbornetworks.com Luck is the residue

Re: EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 08/01/2014 17:30, Nick Olsen wrote: Looking for EIGRP support in a platform other than Cisco. Since it was opened up last year. We have a situation where we need to integrate into a network running EIGRP and would like to avoid cisco if at all possible. Why not use isis or ospf? Both are

Re: EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread Nick Olsen
Completely agree. But this is needed to integrate into an existing network. OSPF would've been my first choice. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:50 PM To:

Re: EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Jan 9, 2014, at 12:50 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: IGP migration is quite do-able, even for large networks, and all cisco +1 --- Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net // http://www.arbornetworks.com

Re: EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Jan 9, 2014, at 12:52 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: But this is needed to integrate into an existing network. Route redistribution? cringe or eBGP? --- Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net //

Re: EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 08/01/2014 17:52, Nick Olsen wrote: Completely agree. But this is needed to integrate into an existing network. OSPF would've been my first choice. you'll need to pay cisco tax then. Cisco opened up most of eigrp to the ietf as an informational rfc, but didn't release anything related to

Re: EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread Nick Olsen
This is what I figured from a quick googling. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.. Thanks! Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:03 PM To:

Re: EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: This is what I figured from a quick googling. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.. you could employ one of the several methods to migrate from 'less desirable igp' to 'more desirable igp' on all of the things in

Re: EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/8/14, 10:02 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: On Jan 9, 2014, at 12:52 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: But this is needed to integrate into an existing network. Route redistribution? I've done mixed eigrp ospf environments in places where I wasn't responsible for legacy decisions...

Re: EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread Ray Soucy
Use a standard protocol and redistribute between the two. OSPF is likely the easiest way to go for this. I like EIGRP, but I don't think I like it enough to try a non-Cisco implementation of it. At least with OSPF you know that most of the bugs have been worked out (hopefully). On Wed, Jan 8,

Re: Open source hardware

2014-01-08 Thread Ray Soucy
Just to toss in a few more vendors so not to look biased: Champion One: http://www.championone.net/ Have used them with no complaints. And a new company I heard about off-list: Luma Optics: http://www.lumaoptics.net/ I haven't dealt with them before, but their solution seems to be pretty

Re: 10gbps peering subscriber switch recommendation

2014-01-08 Thread excelsio
That´s actually a topic, I was thinking ago some time ago. Why not take a current TOR switch with 1. BGP support and 2. high buffer. Like mentioned above we have Trident 2 bases switches. HP (no recommendation) has its HP 5930 series but tells Routing table size 16000 entries (IPv4), 8000 entries

Re: Open source hardware

2014-01-08 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2014-01-08 13:56 -0500), Ray Soucy wrote: Just to toss in a few more vendors so not to look biased: Instead of suggesting names, I'm giving some suggestions want to ask for vendor when looking for new partner - DDM/DOM, should be included in each (1USD price premium), min/max TX/RX in

Re: 10gbps peering subscriber switch recommendation

2014-01-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, January 08, 2014 09:45:50 PM excel...@gmx.com wrote: That´s actually a topic, I was thinking ago some time ago. Why not take a current TOR switch with 1. BGP support and 2. high buffer. Like mentioned above we have Trident 2 bases switches. HP (no recommendation) has its HP

Re: 10gbps peering subscriber switch recommendation

2014-01-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/8/14, 11:45 AM, excel...@gmx.com wrote: That´s actually a topic, I was thinking ago some time ago. Why not take a current TOR switch with 1. BGP support and 2. high buffer. Like mentioned above we have Trident 2 bases switches. HP (no recommendation) has its HP 5930 series but tells

RE: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Paul B. Henson
From: Justin M. Streiner [mailto:strei...@cluebyfour.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 6:02 PM If you find the answer, you win the prize. Can the prize be the Verizon employees that should have been keeping us in the loop on this in a dunk tank ;)? I've tried shaking numerous trees

RE: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Paul B. Henson
From: Adam Rothschild [mailto:a...@latency.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 8:10 PM Sorry, yes, that is correct: one way to get IPv6 FIOS at the home is to escalate through your (701/VZB) account team. Hmm, I actually have business FIOS at home (static IP highway robbery grumble), and

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Ian Bowers
I've been barking at them for a couple years now, I never get much. They're good about staffing their front line support with flowchart monkeys. My internet facing device is constantly listening for any sort of indication that native IPv6 is starting up, but never hears anything. So I rock HE

Re: ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2014-01-08 Thread Zach Hanna
OK. So who other than Andrew was able to get this working (and keep it working) ? I'm about to place an order for slow-verse for my residence... -Z- On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Nikolay Shopik sho...@inblock.ru wrote: On 04/12/13 23:48, Owen DeLong wrote: Please tell me what provider is

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Ian Bowers wrote: So I rock HE like many of you. It works pretty well, and I'm, guessing I get a lot more address space via HE than VZ would give me. I have a tunnel through HE and it is solid. Verizon states on their What is IPv6? page that they will provide a /56 to

RE: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Paul B. Henson
From: Ian Bowers [mailto:iggd...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 5:31 AM indication that native IPv6 is starting up, but never hears anything. So I rock HE like many of you. It works pretty well, and I'm, guessing I get a lot more address space via HE than VZ would give me. I

RE: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread David Hubbard
HE will give you five /64's and you can also get a /48 if you need more for one end point. The service works flawlessly; much more than can be said for VZW. I run it from DD-WRT-based router at home and have several office locations using it via Cisco gear. Would still greatly prefer native

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 8, 2014, at 18:27 , David Hubbard dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com wrote: HE will give you five /64's and you can also get a /48 if you need more for one end point. The service works flawlessly; much more than can be said for VZW. I run it from DD-WRT-based router at home and have

Re: 10gbps peering subscriber switch recommendation

2014-01-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:33:55 PM joel jaeggli wrote: There are various reasons why one might take a full table on a switch with not not enough FIB, the important part of course being the part where you don't install them all. In Metro-E deployments, this is a good use-case when

Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?

2014-01-08 Thread Geert Bosch
On Jan 8, 2014, at 17:03, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote: I have a tunnel through HE and it is solid. I'm on Verizon FIOS (70/30 Mbit/s), and set up my ActionTec router to allow tunneling traffic through, but am using my Apple TimeCapsule base station (3 years old) for the

Re: Open source hardware

2014-01-08 Thread Brandon Ross
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Saku Ytti wrote: On (2014-01-08 13:56 -0500), Ray Soucy wrote: Just to toss in a few more vendors so not to look biased: Instead of suggesting names, I'm giving some suggestions want to ask for vendor when looking for new partner So, in other words, you should make

SV: 10gbps peering subscriber switch recommendation

2014-01-08 Thread Andreas Larsen
Xtreme x480 can do this and has upto 6 * 10G ports. It can actually hold a full bgp table also and is preatty cheap. // Andreas Med vänlig hälsning Andreas Larsen   IP-Only Telecommunication AB| Postadress: 753 81 UPPSALA | Besöksadress: S:t Persgatan 6, Uppsala | Telefon: +46 (0)18 843 10 00 |