Re: Richard Bennett, NANOG posting, and Integrity

2014-08-05 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Matt Palmer mpal...@hezmatt.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 08:16:36AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: On 28-Jul-2014 8:06 am, Matt Palmer mpal...@hezmatt.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 05:28:08PM -0700, Richard Bennett wrote: It's more

Re: ASR9K xml agent vs netconf

2014-08-05 Thread Dale W. Carder
Thus spake Jeremy (jba...@gmail.com) on Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 03:07:19PM -0700: I'm currently working on writing some automation around the ASR9K platform and I've been looking at both the netconf and xml interfaces. Anyone have experience with either? It looks like the XML interface is

Re: ASR9K xml agent vs netconf

2014-08-05 Thread Corey Touchet
I always preferred the displays where you have commands without all the bracket garbage and just indented text for sub items. On the MX the show configuration | display set is about as close as you can get, but it¹s workable. Kudo¹s is that you can just dump it in as well and get what you want.

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-08-05 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:34 PM, mcfbbqroast . bbqro...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with this, a monopoly is ok if the government regulates it properly and effectively. I'm a fan of either: Dark fibre to every house. Fiber to every house with a soft handover to the ISP. The problem with

Re: Huawei Atom Router

2014-08-05 Thread Randy Bush
And a bunch of ban's around Oct 2013 from a wide variety of countries... you mean fear of implants as there are in cisco products?

Re: ASR9K xml agent vs netconf

2014-08-05 Thread Hugo Slabbert
Kudo¹s is that you can just dump it in as well and get what you want. You can dump hierarchical config (the bracket stuff) into JunOS with load plus the added benefit/flexibility of the merge/replace/override options. -- Hugo On Tue 2014-Aug-05 13:42:18 +, Corey Touchet

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-08-05 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Eugeniu Patrascu eu...@imacandi.net In my neck of the woods, the city hall decided that no more fiber cables running all over the poles in the city and somehow combined with some EU

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-08-05 Thread Owen DeLong
This one is a bad idea cause you have lots of people pushing fiber through pipes with active fiber in them... and their incentives not to screw up other people's glass are... unclear? :-) Not really, if one company starts making mistakes, the other will also mistake their cables. It's

Re: Huawei Atom Router

2014-08-05 Thread Alain Hebert
Was more a statement of fact. As if it was warranted. I do not know. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax:

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-08-05 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: This one is a bad idea cause you have lots of people pushing fiber through pipes with active fiber in them... and their incentives not to screw up other people's glass are... unclear? :-) Not really, if one company

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-08-05 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:34 AM, mcfbbqroast . bbqro...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with this, a monopoly is ok if the government regulates it properly and effectively. I'm a fan of either: Dark fibre to every house. Fiber to every house with a soft handover to the ISP. All ran by an entity

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-08-05 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Eugeniu Patrascu eu...@imacandi.net wrote: So how is blowing microfibre in some tubes more expensive? You pay a one off installation fee and then a small monthly rate for the circuit (payable yearly). The really nice and geeky part is that you can actually

Re: Huawei Atom Router

2014-08-05 Thread Rob Seastrom
To be fair, they've fixed one of the big concerns that were raised with them a couple of years ago: google for huawei + psirt now actually returns usable results. No idea how well the interface with them works when you're actually trying to report a vulnerability (maybe someone can speak up).

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-08-05 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:26 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Hi Eugeniu, The word you're searching for is microduct. That's it, I wasn't sure about it. I'm a big fan of Microduct. There's even some wicked cool equipment which will force the core out of in-place coax plant,

FCC Releases Tenth Broadband Inquiry NOI

2014-08-05 Thread Jay Ashworth
Section 706 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996, as amended (1996 Act), requires the Commission to determine and report annually on whether advanced telecommunications capability is being deployed to all Americans in a reasonable and timely fashion. 1) This Notice of Inquiry (Inquiry)

Remooted: a deployment design for Muni Fiber (was Re: Muni Fiber and Politics)

2014-08-05 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: William Herrin b...@herrin.us All ran by an entity forbidden from retail. Nonononono, bad plan. I want a fiber from my home to my storefront on main street, but I'm a consumer not a retailer so I can't buy just one? Or hey, so sorry but the cable

Re: Remooted: a deployment design for Muni Fiber (was Re: Muni Fiber and Politics)

2014-08-05 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Is there any way we could stop this discussion until we can get some participants who have experience doing things like emergency post-ice-storm overhead circuit restoration to show up and explain exactly why charging a small one-time fee for a fiber from A to Z is probably not a sustainable

Re: Remooted: a deployment design for Muni Fiber (was Re: Muni Fiber and Politics)

2014-08-05 Thread Rob Seastrom
Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at writes: In the meantime, I'd like to see the city where an ISP can buy as many of the microducts as they want. I'd like to buy them all, please... though I have no intention of running anything though them, as I'm an investor in the local cable TV company.

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-08-05 Thread Jima
On 2014-08-02 15:15, Leo Bicknell wrote: But if those cities were to build a municipal fiber network like we've described, and pay for it with 15-20 year municipal bonds the ISP's wouldn't have to bear those costs. They could come in drop one box in a central location and start offering