How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-22 Thread Javier J
Dear NANOG Members, It has come to my attention, that higher learning institutions in North America are doing our young future colleagues a disservice. I recently ran into a student of Southern New Hampshire University enrolled in the Networking/Telecom Management course and was shocked by what

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-22 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: How our young colleagues are being educated Date: Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 04:13:42AM -0500 Quoting Javier J (jav...@advancedmachines.us): Dear NANOG Members, It has come to my attention, that higher learning institutions in North America are doing our young future colleagues a

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-22 Thread Daniël W . Crompton
*shameless plug* Usually not a topic for this list, and together with two co-founders we started an online university last to address some of the issues we saw with higher education. We currently have approval from the state of Vermont to give college credit, credits earned through Oplerno

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-22 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote: I recently ran into a student of Southern New Hampshire University enrolled in the Networking/Telecom Management course and was shocked by what I learned. Am I crazy? Am I ranting? Doesn't this need to be addressed?

Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Song Li
Hi everyone, I'm searching for a list of IXPS which contains the information of the ASN of the IXP. Some resources are good: https://prefix.pch.net/applications/ixpdir/?show_active_only=0sort=trafficorder=desc

Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-12-22 14:30, Song Li wrote: Hi everyone, I'm searching for a list of IXPS which contains the information of the ASN of the IXP. Some resources are good: https://prefix.pch.net/applications/ixpdir/?show_active_only=0sort=trafficorder=desc

Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Randy Bush
I'm searching for a list of IXPS which contains the information of the ASN of the IXP. the best source is https://www.peeringdb.com/ [ i was amused to find CIX (http://www.cix.org/, the one which used to be in the bay) still in my ix bookmarks. ] randy

Re: in-case anyone is interested, the pirate flag flies again.

2014-12-22 Thread Nicolás
You could try this one: https://thepiratebay.cr/ El 22/12/14 00:28, Miles Fidelman escribió: Javier J wrote: http://www.thepiratebay.se/ Doesn't seem to be reachable, though.

Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Niels Bakker
I'm searching for a list of IXPS which contains the information of the ASN of the IXP. * ra...@psg.com (Randy Bush) [Mon 22 Dec 2014, 14:54 CET]: the best source is https://www.peeringdb.com/ It's not. Let's take an example, AMS-IX: https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=26

Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 22/12/2014 13:50, Jeroen Massar wrote: IXs themselves do not have ASNs, as they are Layer 2 providers. most modern IXPs will have an ASN for their route server, and possibly a separate asn for their mgmt infrastructure. Not sure how useful the mgmt ASN is, although most IXPs will

Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Song Li
在 2014/12/22 22:26, Nick Hilliard 写道: On 22/12/2014 13:50, Jeroen Massar wrote: IXs themselves do not have ASNs, as they are Layer 2 providers. most modern IXPs will have an ASN for their route server, and possibly a separate asn for their mgmt infrastructure. Not sure how useful the mgmt

RE: Fibre optic patch cables in Toronto area

2014-12-22 Thread Casey Baranoski
+1 for Sayal. They've got a few locations, depending on where you are in the GTA. http://www.sayal.com/zinc/zinc_contactus.asp#TOR -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Michael Brown Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 6:31 PM To: Miguel Hernandez;

Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Niels Bakker
* n...@foobar.org (Nick Hilliard) [Mon 22 Dec 2014, 15:28 CET]: Not sure how useful the mgmt ASN is, although most IXPs will paradoxically include this on their list of members. As long as they don't count it for their total connected parties statistics, I'm good with it being included in the

Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-12-22 15:45, Song Li wrote: 在 2014/12/22 22:26, Nick Hilliard 写道: On 22/12/2014 13:50, Jeroen Massar wrote: IXs themselves do not have ASNs, as they are Layer 2 providers. most modern IXPs will have an ASN for their route server, and possibly a separate asn for their mgmt

Re: Fibre optic patch cables in Toronto area

2014-12-22 Thread Kauto Huopio
It would be handy to have a list of shops in major cities that stock standard network components available at odd hours. For Helsinki, Finland I can recommend Verkkokauppa.com kiosk - the whole stock of a Fry's -size outlet is available through a 24/7 kiosk at the ground floor. Orders over 200

RE: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-22 Thread Shaw, Matthew
Thankfully only about 30 minutes north of SNHU is my alma mater, the New Hampshire Technical Institute, a technical school which is fairly well known (locally at least) for its nursing, electrical engineering, and IT programs. The school's invested in a modern lab with a dozen or so equipment

Re: OT - Verizon/ATT Cell/4G Signal Booster/Repeater

2014-12-22 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Stephen Sprunk step...@sprunk.org On 16-Dec-14 12:27, John Schiel wrote: One thing you might also want to consider are any calls you make to 911 whilst using a repeater. I use a repeater supplied by T-Mobile and they made it very clear, and I had

Estonian IPv6 deployment report

2014-12-22 Thread Tarko Tikan
hey, Some time ago, many people noticed rapid IPv6 deployment growth in Estonia (from 0% to 5% in 4 weeks). We at 3249/Elion/Estonian Telecom were behind this, other operators don't have any serious IPv6 deployments at the moment. We rolled out v6 to everyone (both business and residential

Re: Estonian IPv6 deployment report

2014-12-22 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Hello, folks! Tere from your customer FastVPS Eesti OU/AS198068! :) On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Tarko Tikan ta...@lanparty.ee wrote: hey, Some time ago, many people noticed rapid IPv6 deployment growth in Estonia (from 0% to 5% in 4 weeks). We at 3249/Elion/Estonian Telecom were behind

RE: OT - Verizon/ATT Cell/4G Signal Booster/Repeater

2014-12-22 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Correct. I've used T-Mo WiFi calling in numerous countries on three continents, and they are all treated as is you are in your 'home' country. That is my understanding. Wifi calling is treated as on-net home calling. Just a question on T-Mobile and wifi. If you are traveling to a roaming

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:13:42 -0500, Javier J said: student graduates. They are teaching classful routing and skimming over CIDR. Is this indicative of the state of our education system as a whole? Did the standard packaged Cisco curriculum finally drop mention of Class A/B/C and go CIDR?

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote: Not only are they skimming over new technologies such as BGP, MPLS and the fundamentals of TCP/IP that run the internet and the networks of the world, they were focusing on ATM , Frame Relay and other technologies that

Re: in-case anyone is interested, the pirate flag flies again.

2014-12-22 Thread Yucong Sun
CR one is fake, isn't it? On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Nicolás nfiumare...@lacnic.net wrote: You could try this one: https://thepiratebay.cr/ El 22/12/14 00:28, Miles Fidelman escribió: Javier J wrote: http://www.thepiratebay.se/ Doesn't seem to be reachable, though.

Re: in-case anyone is interested, the pirate flag flies again.

2014-12-22 Thread Josh Luthman
They're all mirrors (old backups) besides thepiratebay.se Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Yucong Sun sunyuc...@gmail.com wrote: CR one is fake, isn't it? On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Nicolás

Re: Internet Service Providers in Bogota Colombia.

2014-12-22 Thread Alessandro Martins
As Rubens said, ETB and Telmex Comlombia/Claro are the biggest players in Colombia. Other good options are Internexa, Level3 and Telefónica. Thanks, Alessandro Martins -- Alessandro Martins On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: It's very likely that your

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Valdis Kletnieks: On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:13:42 -0500, Javier J said: student graduates. They are teaching classful routing and skimming over CIDR. Is this indicative of the state of our education system as a whole? Did the standard packaged Cisco curriculum finally drop mention of Class

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-22 Thread Sadiq Saif
On 12/22/2014 11:11, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Did the standard packaged Cisco curriculum finally drop mention of Class A/B/C and go CIDR? For the most part yes. They still reference it for historical purposes but otherwise it is all VLSM/CIDR. -- Sadiq Saif

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-22 Thread Ken Chase
Learning how to do CIDR math is a major core component of the coursework? Im thinking that this is about a 30 minute module in the material, once you know binary, powers of 2 and some addition and subtraction (all of which is taught in most schools by when, first year highschool?) you should be

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 15:31:52 -0500, Ken Chase said: Why is CIDR such an important coursework component? Or is it just a shibboleth It's partially like a brown MM backstage at a Van Halen concert - if their coursework was so pitifully out of date it wasn't covered, you better start wondering

Re: Internet Service Providers in Bogota Colombia.

2014-12-22 Thread Javier J
Thanks guys, I appreciate the info greatly. Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year. On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Alessandro Martins alessandro.mart...@gmail.com wrote: As Rubens said, ETB and Telmex Comlombia/Claro are the biggest players in Colombia. Other good options are Internexa,

CfP - Survey on Internet Routing Security

2014-12-22 Thread Abt, Sebastian
Dear NANOG. Right to the year’s end I’d like to share the CfP below with you and ask for your participation. The aim of this survey is to better understand what the operational community thinks about the state of Internet routing security (read: BGP security), associated risks and tentative

North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-22 Thread Valdis Kletnieks
Any of you guys want to fess up? :) http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-376097859903 (Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...) pgpz1qIjaFxGM.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-22 Thread Javier J
But I can ping them. https://nknetobserver.github.io/ And what would it matter if its offline, they already block their population. What exactly is offline? On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Any of you guys want to fess up? :)

Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-22 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote: But I can ping them. https://nknetobserver.github.io/ And what would it matter if its offline, they already block their population. What exactly is offline? The Kim of the moment, the elite, a few journalists,