Re: AWS Elastic IP architecture

2015-05-30 Thread Baldur Norddahl
They could do 6rd by just flipping a switch on one of their routers. Granted it is not native IPv6 but maybe better than nothing. Regards Baldur

Re: westin hotel network

2015-05-30 Thread manning
so… bring your own avian carriers? manning bmann...@karoshi.com PO Box 12317 Marina del Rey, CA 90295 310.322.8102 On 29May2015Friday, at 19:49, Randy Bush wrote: > ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> ping rsync.tools.ietf.org > PING zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (64.170.98.42): 56 data bytes > 64 bytes f

Re: Multiple vendors' IPv6 issues

2015-05-30 Thread Bruce Curtis
On May 27, 2015, at 1:59 AM, Tony Hain wrote: > David, > > While I agree with you that there is no excuse for the general IPv6 > brokenness across all vendors, they are just doing what participants on lists > like this one tell them. Name&Shame may help a little, but until a large > number o

Re: Multiple vendors' IPv6 issues (ping google flash use)

2015-05-30 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 23:59 -0700, Tony Hain wrote: > (...) For fun, project this > http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html > (...) Hi, If someone from google is listening it would be really nice to spend a few minutes t oavoid flash for displaying this graph, it doesn't work on my G

Re: AWS Elastic IP architecture

2015-05-30 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> On May 29, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Christopher Morrow >> wrote: >> >> i love that you are always combative, it makes for great tv. >> >> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> On May 29, 2015, at 8:23 AM, Christopher Morro

Re: AWS Elastic IP architecture

2015-05-30 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Andras Toth wrote: > Perhaps if that energy which was spent on raging, instead was spent on > a Google search, then all those words would've been unnecessary. > > As it turns out that IPv6 is already available on ELBs since 2011: > https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws

Re: westin hotel network

2015-05-30 Thread Christopher Morrow
while /bin/true; do rsync-vaHx --delete rsync.tools.ietf.org::xml2rfc .; done go to sleep, most likely it'll be done in the morning? On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 7:21 AM, manning wrote: > so… bring your own avian carriers? > > > manning > bmann...@karoshi.com > PO Box 12317 > Marina del Rey, CA 90295

300+ms of hotel wifi bufferbloat - peaking at 1.5 sec!

2015-05-30 Thread Dave Taht
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/578850 I would get a kick out of it if folk here tried this new speedtest periodically (on the "cable" setting) during the nanog conference. ;) There is a hires option for more detail on the resulting charts... (or fiddled with "flent" (flent.org)) -- Dave Tä

Re: westin hotel network

2015-05-30 Thread Randy Bush
> only a 1.5 seconds of bufferbloat. Mind If I repost that result? > (would prefer you did to this list) http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/578850

Re: AWS Elastic IP architecture

2015-05-30 Thread Owen DeLong
> > > Amazon doesn't even offer a v4/v6 LoadBalancer service right? (I had > thought they did, but I guess I'm mis-remembering) They sort of do, but it’s utterly incompatible with all of their modern capabilities. You have to use some pretty antiquated VM provisioning and such to use it if I u

Re: AWS Elastic IP architecture

2015-05-30 Thread Blair Trosper
Only EC2 classic has dual stack anything. VPC load balancers (and, indeed, everything about VPC) is IPv4 only. And EC2 classic is being phased out, so dualstack is sort of dying on AWS. However, I do have some solid information that they're scrambling to retrofit, but seeing as how we know AWS op

Re: AWS Elastic IP architecture

2015-05-30 Thread Blair Trosper
Oh, and the only thing dual stack about EC2 Classic was ELBs (elastic load balancers). Instances had no means of IPv6 communication except via an ELB. That is the FULL extent of IPv6 implementation on AWS at present...and most people do not have EC2 classic. On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Blai

Re: AWS Elastic IP architecture

2015-05-30 Thread Owen DeLong
> On May 30, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Andras Toth wrote: > > Perhaps if that energy which was spent on raging, instead was spent on > a Google search, then all those words would've been unnecessary. > > As it turns out that IPv6 is already available on ELBs since 2011: > https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/a

Re: 300+ms of hotel wifi bufferbloat - peaking at 1.5 sec!

2015-05-30 Thread Steven Tardy
There's a corollary of the bufferbloat phenomenon: buffer drain time. It's not the size of the buffer, but how long it takes to empty. And US ISPs continue to say "customers don't want upload speed". If the ISP upload speed was symmetric you'd likely never notice the 1-2MB of buffers. I guess w

Re: 300+ms of hotel wifi bufferbloat - peaking at 1.5 sec!

2015-05-30 Thread Srikanth Sundaresan
While I agree that upload speeds aren't great, it doesn't mean that the buffers aren't big. Buffer sizes of the order of MB's are uncalled for at the edge, unless we're talking really high speeds. The miniscule performance increase for single TCP flows doesn't really justify the potential incre

BGP Multihoming 2 providers full or partial?

2015-05-30 Thread Maqbool Hashim
Hi, We are an enterprise that are eBGP multihoming to two ISPs. We wish to load balance in inbound and outbound traffic thereby using our capacity as efficiently as possible. My current feeling is that it would be crazy for us to take a full Internet routing table from either ISP. I have read

Re: AWS Elastic IP architecture

2015-05-30 Thread Andras Toth
Perhaps if that energy which was spent on raging, instead was spent on a Google search, then all those words would've been unnecessary. As it turns out that IPv6 is already available on ELBs since 2011: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/elastic-load-balancing-ipv6-zone-apex-support-additional-secur