Re: How long will it take to completely get rid of IPv4 or will it happen at all?

On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:58:24 -0400, Alexander Maassen wrote: Before that will happen. Isp's will first try cgnat and the alikes. They already are. And, depending on the network, have for eons. Have you checked the IP used by your cellphone? (the last few times I bothered to look... somewh

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:23:27 -0400, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: IPX ruled the roost, very popularly, for a little while. How long did it take to die? It isn't dead yet, but it's certainly on the endangered list. Why did it die? The death of Novell NetWare (and their transitioned to IP) kill

Re: NTT->HE earlier today (~10am EDT)

Kudos Mike for saying it very clearly! Hank On Jun 30, 2015 12:18 AM, Mike Leber wrote: > > NTT's customer Sofia Connect leaked our routes to NTT.  NTT accepted > these routes instead of properly filtering their customer > announcements.  As a network of non-trivial size, announcing over 75,00

Re: NTT->HE earlier today (~10am EDT)

Kudos Mike for saying it very clearly! Hank On Jun 30, 2015 12:18 AM, Mike Leber wrote: > > NTT's customer Sofia Connect leaked our routes to NTT.  NTT accepted > these routes instead of properly filtering their customer > announcements.  As a network of non-trivial size, announcing over 75,00

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 08:35:34 -0400, Rafael Possamai wrote: How long do you think it will take to completely get rid of IPv4? Or is it even going to happen at all? Things like IPX and token-ring are still around. IPv4 isn't going anywhere for decades. (if ever) Mostly because there are thin

RE: Charter and IPV6?

Looks like charter just got a /28 of IPv6 http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET6-2600-2300-1/pft -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Matt Love Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 2:39 PM To: Robert Glover Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Charter and IPV6? I just asked

Re: NTT->HE earlier today (~10am EDT)

Hi Jared, This is neat !, for someone who recently started working the IRR's, I can tell you that it has been very difficult finding all info in one location. What you shared is pretty neat !, and I would like to clean up the records associated with our prefixes. Can you suggest some practica

Re: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

We have some sunrise telecom test set's which we don't use any more. Will be willing the sell them, let me know off list. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.n

Re: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

The Westel A90-750045-07 Frontier branded DSL router has some amazing DSL status screens if you dig in the menu deep enough. I always kept one in the truck when I was doing some service work. Check the local Goodwill/Value Village. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Mon, Jun 29

Re: Trusted Networks Initiative: DDoS fallback set of AS'es

> as the recent L(3)/TM global disaster made quite clear, it is not > architecture; it's marketing literature. and let's give a shoutout to jared and mike randy

RE: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

The local ILEC (Verizon) use Colt 250+.  They are pretty cool.  They do not do layer 3 like the meter you referenced. I'm actually looking for a cost-effective meter that does ADSL+ / VDSL2 / e.SHDSL.  it's easy to find one that does the first two, but not all three. Original message --

Re: How long will it take to completely get rid of IPv4 or will it happen at all?

actually, 1500 byte frames require a very different buffering technique, since you have so many in flight at a given time. if your old enough, this equates to the 53byte ATM cells when the data rates were in the Megabit range. manning bmann...@karoshi.com PO Box 12317 Marina del Rey, CA 90295 3

Re: Trusted Networks Initiative: DDoS fallback set of AS'es

hi lazarus, >> in any case the idea still seems silly. > not if you need to appear to be DOING SOMETHING!!! Of course there is that. But in order to be appear to be doing something one has to pledge to do BCP38 and various other things I would consider BCP. All little bits h

Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

I've been poking around looking for an inexpensive xDSL circuit tester to do some measurements on my home DSL line, in opposition to the telco. $2K+ is not in the budget, so I'm curious about the accuracy of the $300 Chinese units kicking around eBay (e.g. the ST332B). Anyone out there have exp

Re: Trusted Networks Initiative: DDoS fallback set of AS'es

> On Apr 16, 2015, at 3:58 AM, David Hofstee wrote: > > Hi, > > I saw the following and thought it would be interesting to share. In case of > a persistent DDoS an ASy can fallback to a small set of (more trustable) > AS'es for their routing: > http://www.trustednetworksinitiative.nl/ It is

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:58:27 -0400, William Astle wrote: Like certain data centers attached to AS701 in Canada. Or their end customers all over the world. Of course, they're no different than most other carriers. At the time we moved into this office, TWC wasn't available [TWCBC] (but they

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

Guarantee there's no BLISS-32 on Johnny's machine. The source to the LAT software he's talking to *may* be in BLISS-36. It's more likely in MACRO-10. -r (does this gray hair make me look old?) George Michaelson writes: > Dec gave you the source on Microfiche. If you want to change LAT just r

Re: Trusted Networks Initiative: DDoS fallback set of AS'es

is this any different than the architecture Rodney Joffe built 20 years ago? manning bmann...@karoshi.com PO Box 12317 Marina del Rey, CA 90295 310.322.8102 On 1May2015Friday, at 15:41, Jac Kloots wrote: > > Randy, > > On Thu, 30 Apr 2015, Randy Bush wrote: > > in any case the idea sti

Re: NTT->HE earlier today (~10am EDT)

Greetings, We are aware of this issue and as is usual we filter customers based on their registered routes. This creates some unique challenges that we have been speaking about publicly and privately with various groups. I have started the process (yay telco-speak) to fix this. It would be he

Re: Charter and IPV6?

I just asked for it about a month ago in my area, they said the beta is just about to be over. On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Robert Glover wrote: > As of 3mos ago, no :( > > > > Original message > From: Roy > Date: 06/29/2015 2:15 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: nanog > Subject: Ch

RE: Charter and IPV6?

As of 3mos ago, no :( Original message From: Roy Date: 06/29/2015 2:15 PM (GMT-08:00) To: nanog Subject: Charter and IPV6? Has Charter rolled out IPV6 yet?  I have both fiber and cable connections to Charter but I stopped asking them months ago. Roy ​​​

Re: Charter and IPV6?

Google says https://www.myaccount.charter.com/customers/Support.aspx?SupportArticleID=2665 and I use the 6rd. It works. On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Roy wrote: > > Has Charter rolled out IPV6 yet? I have both fiber and cable connections > to Charter but I stopped asking them months ago. > >

Re: NTT->HE earlier today (~10am EDT)

NTT's customer Sofia Connect leaked our routes to NTT. NTT accepted these routes instead of properly filtering their customer announcements. As a network of non-trivial size, announcing over 75,000 customer routes which is nearly 15% of the IPv4 routing table, we'd expect the common courtesy

RE: Any Verizon datacenter techs about?

If the building is over 30 years old I can guarantee you it is at least 75% empty now. >P.S. If there was any way to get a tour inside of there at least I'd totally >sign a NDA for that. :) Never been inside, let alone near, a CO >before. >-- John Musbach

Charter and IPV6?

Has Charter rolled out IPV6 yet? I have both fiber and cable connections to Charter but I stopped asking them months ago. Roy

NTT->HE earlier today (~10am EDT)

Hello, I haven't seen anything to explain this, so I'm asking a larger audience. Did anyone notice any unusual NTT or HE routing this AM? Here's what I saw: 2.|-- xe-0-1-0-17.r04.atlnga05.us.bb.gin.ntt.net 0.0%200.8 0.7 0.6 0.9 0.1 3.|-- ae-2.r20.atlnga05.us.bb.gin.ntt.net

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

Dec gave you the source on Microfiche. If you want to change LAT just read, and find your Bliss32 compiler. On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Scott Whyte wrote: > > > On 6/29/15 20:17, Johnny Eriksson wrote: > >> Javier Henderson wrote: >> >> Or XNS. On the other hand, people did have a nice c

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

On 6/29/15 20:17, Johnny Eriksson wrote: Javier Henderson wrote: Or XNS. On the other hand, people did have a nice career with SNA...but they weren't trying to push packets over the LAT .daytime Monday 29-Jun-2015 20:10:46 .pjob Job 3 at ODEN User BYGG [10,335] TTY4 .where tty4

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

Javier Henderson wrote: > > Or XNS. On the other hand, people did have a nice career with > SNA...but they weren't trying to push packets over the > > LAT .daytime Monday 29-Jun-2015 20:10:46 .pjob Job 3 at ODEN User BYGG [10,335] TTY4 .where tty4 LAT PC78(LATD for FreeBSD) TTY4

RE: Data Center Network Monitoring with TAPs

Some colleagues wrote up Microsoft DEMon: https://sharkfest.wireshark.org/sharkfest.12/presentations/A-4_Leveraging_Openflow_to_create_a_Large_Scale_and_Cost_Effective_Packet_Capture_Network.pdf -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Franci

Re: [NANOG-announce] NANOG 65 - Montréal - Call for Presentations is Open!

Dang! Yes, correct. It's October 5-7th. Our 65th meeting will be held in Montréal, Quebec on June 5-7th. > Thanks for the eagle eyes out there. Tony ___ NANOG-announce mailing list nanog-annou...@mailman.nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/li

[NANOG-announce] NANOG 65 - Montréal - Call for Presentations is Open!

Hello NANOG Folks, Thanks to all those who made NANOG 64 in San Francisco our largest meeting ever (by well over 25% margin)! Our 65th meeting will be held in Montréal, Quebec on June 5-7th. Our meeting sits between the DNS-OARC workshop (Sat-Sun) and the ARIN 36 meeting (Thu-Fri) so will be ripe

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Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

On 6/29/2015 11:07, Bob Evans wrote: It would not surprise me to find ARCnet (Datapoint's) still running in some corner somewhere. I would not be surprised to learn that the University that fired me for being too old still has one. -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Bob Evans wrote: > It would not surprise me to find ARCnet (Datapoint's) still running in > some corner somewhere. Possibly next to the system running Banyan VINES.

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

It would not surprise me to find ARCnet (Datapoint's) still running in some corner somewhere. Thank You Bob Evans CTO >> On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Stephen Satchell wrote: >> >> On 06/29/2015 01:16 AM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I knew several people who built their car

Re: CDNs for carriers

Christopher Morrow wrote on 6/29/2015 9:25 AM: On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: This being said, there is not a single solution to everything. Chris mentioned using DNS, which is a nice method assuming you see all the queries within your traffic cone. sorry, I meant th

Re: CDNs for carriers

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: > This being said, there is not a single solution to everything. Chris > mentioned using DNS, which is a nice method assuming you see all the queries > within your traffic cone. sorry, I meant that you could just look at the reverse dns for

Re: How long will it take to completely get rid of IPv4 or will it happen at all?

It is true - you I have had to throttle back for years for optimum transport on many carriers. In fact, if you have an ATT transit in your mix of BGP you wont get a ping response at 1500 MTU from that ATT router. On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:02:52 -0700, Owen DeLong said: >> >> > On Jun 27, 2015, at 1

Re: CDNs for carriers

> On Jun 29, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Simple flows wouldn't necessarily tell you if you're pulling a bunch from a > Netflix caching box on your upstream somewhere. You'd think you had a huge > amount going to your current upstream because technically you do, but a local > cac

Re: CDNs for carriers

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Simple flows wouldn't necessarily tell you if you're pulling a bunch from a > Netflix caching box on your upstream somewhere. You'd think you had a huge > amount going to your current upstream because technically you do, but a local > cache

Re: CDNs for carriers

Simple flows wouldn't necessarily tell you if you're pulling a bunch from a Netflix caching box on your upstream somewhere. You'd think you had a huge amount going to your current upstream because technically you do, but a local cache or peer could alter that significantly. As we've been startin

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

> On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Stephen Satchell wrote: > > On 06/29/2015 01:16 AM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: >> Hi, >> >>> I knew several people who built their career path on the assumptions of >>> IPX. Ouch. >> >> or DECnet ;-) > > Or XNS. On the other hand, people did have a n

Re: CDNs for carriers

> On Jun 29, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Ramy Hashish wrote: >> do you have any figures about how much this >> recommended CDN save from the Internet BW? > > isn't that going to wholey depend on your traffic mix/matrix? > Wouldn't it be h

Re: CDNs for carriers

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Ramy Hashish wrote: > do you have any figures about how much this > recommended CDN save from the Internet BW? isn't that going to wholey depend on your traffic mix/matrix? Wouldn't it be helpful to look at where your users send/receive traffic and then figure out

Re: CDNs for carriers

On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:53:57 +0200, Ramy Hashish said: > Does anybody recommend a CDN to work beside GGC and AKAMAI? I would think that talking to Netflix about hosting one of their boxes would be the obvious next step? pgpJmGzrRp4N0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: CDNs for carriers

Netflix: Frankly, those three are roughly the same size, and the only ones anywhere near that size. -- TTFN, patrick > On Jun 29, 2015, at 08:53 , Ramy Hashish wrote: > > Hello there, > > Does anybody recommend a CDN to work beside GGC and AKAMAI?

Web content categorization

Good day all, We are looking forward to filter the broadband traffic based on the category, anybody has any cost effective solution? Thanks, Ramy

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

> On Jun 27, 2015, at 2:45 PM, wrote: > > What's the ratio of mobile (cellular) endpoints to non-mobile devices? And > we know that mobile continues to grow faster than fixed endpoints -- at what > point will the scales naturally tip to IPv6? this is why i’m very curious to see if google foll

CDNs for carriers

Hello there, Does anybody recommend a CDN to work beside GGC and AKAMAI? and if you have a real life deployment, do you have any figures about how much this recommended CDN save from the Internet BW? (currently both of GGC and AKAMAI saves about 40% of our Internet BW) Thanks, Ramy

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

On 06/29/2015 01:16 AM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: Hi, I knew several people who built their career path on the assumptions of IPX. Ouch. or DECnet ;-) Or XNS. On the other hand, people did have a nice career with SNA...but they weren't trying to push packets over the

Re: OK, Google. Time to dial back the AI hype.

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, Mel Beckman wrote: Google has always played fast and loose with its AI claims, but today t has gone too far. In a WSJ story, Google is misleading people into thinking it has achieved emotion, if not outright consciousness, in its AI programming: http://slashdot.org/submi

Re: ARIN just subdivided their last /17, /18, /19, /20, /21 and /22. Down to only /23s and /24s now. : ipv6

Hi, >I knew several people who built their career path on the assumptions of IPX. >Ouch. or DECnet ;-) alan

Re: How long will it take to completely get rid of IPv4 or will it happen at all?

Hi, > I just ran a tcpdump looking for NTP packets going to 128.173.14.71. In 90 > minutes, I got hits from 330 unique IP addresses, including some that were > chatty enough to indicate there were dozens of hosts behind a NAT. ah yes. the joy of the usual 2 scenarios 1) your IP got used in som

Re: OK, Google. Time to dial back the AI hype.

> Because Google is an ISP, it seems to me a legitimate discussion > point. Given Google's penchant for crafty customer surveillance, this > technology seems like one that Google might try to leverage into a > snoopy product. . if we wasted this list discussing things which *might* be leveraged in