Re: FIB Sizing

2015-07-21 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Graham Johnston wrote: > Does anybody have a working projection, or crystal ball, that can provide a > recommendation on FIB size requirements for the next 24 months? Are we > expecting the IPv4 table to continue to grow at somewhere around 50k routes a > year?

Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-21 Thread Curtis Maurand
On 7/21/2015 4:05 PM, Ricky Beam wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 08:13:48 -0400, Curtis Maurand wrote: At least in Maine where I am, TWC does allow you to bring your own modem as long as it's DOCSIS 3 compliant and there's lots of those from motorola, netgear and others. You're not stuck with th

FIB Sizing

2015-07-21 Thread Graham Johnston
Does anybody have a working projection, or crystal ball, that can provide a recommendation on FIB size requirements for the next 24 months? Are we expecting the IPv4 table to continue to grow at somewhere around 50k routes a year? I came up with this from eyeballing the graph at http://www.cid

Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-21 Thread Ricky Beam
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 08:13:48 -0400, Curtis Maurand wrote: At least in Maine where I am, TWC does allow you to bring your own modem as long as it's DOCSIS 3 compliant and there's lots of those from motorola, netgear and others. You're not stuck with the Ubee. You are ignoring the "BUSINESS

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Curtis Maurand
On 7/21/2015 8:43 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 08:09:56AM -0400, Curtis Maurand wrote: DNS is still largely UDP. Water is also still wet :) - but you may not be doing 10% of your links as UDP/53. DNS can also use TCP as well, including sending more than one

Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-21 Thread Owen DeLong
Furst rule of dealing with $CABLECO — If you don’t like the answer you get on this phone call, redial. The next person will probably give you a different answer. Certainly you can almost always get the answer you are looking for (even if it’s wrong) within 5 calls if you are that patient. Owen

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Hello! There are few vendors which could offer 100GE capture solutions which could be used with FastNetMon. I could share vendor names off list if you are interested in it. Now we do only packet counting and compare it with fixed thresholds. But we are working on deep packet inspection of attacks

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Rafael Possamai
Pavel, what kind of resources does the analysis of a 100G circuit require? Or is it just counting packets? On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > You could do SQC with FastNetMon. We have per subnet / per host and > per protocol counters. We are working on multi 100GE mode very

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Rafael Possamai
Yeah, it hurts to see advanced analytics being used to sort the kitten videos you're most likely to watch, but somehow they make money off of it. On the other hand, their datacenter and new switching technologies are really interesting, so that's an opposite example where their corporate investment

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Jared Mauch
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 08:07:34AM -0500, Rafael Possamai wrote: > Has anyone tried to implement real-time SQC in their network? You can > calculate summary statistics and use math to determine if traffic is > "normal" or if there's a chance it's garbage. You won't be able to notice > one-off attac

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Mike Hammett
"Facebook uses similar technology to figure out what kind of useless news to display on your feed." In this case, it'll be of no use whatsoever. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Rafael Possamai" To: "Jar

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Pavel Odintsov
You could do SQC with FastNetMon. We have per subnet / per host and per protocol counters. We are working on multi 100GE mode very well :) On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Rafael Possamai wrote: > Has anyone tried to implement real-time SQC in their network? You can > calculate summary statistics

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Rafael Possamai
Has anyone tried to implement real-time SQC in their network? You can calculate summary statistics and use math to determine if traffic is "normal" or if there's a chance it's garbage. You won't be able to notice one-off attacks, but anything that repeats enough times should pop up. Facebook uses s

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Jared Mauch
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 08:09:56AM -0400, Curtis Maurand wrote: > > DNS is still largely UDP. Water is also still wet :) - but you may not be doing 10% of your links as UDP/53. DNS can also use TCP as well, including sending more than one query in a pipelined fashion. Th

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Call it China hacking us and you'll get more attention, right or wrong. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Christopher Morrow" To: "Colin Johnston" Cc: "" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:44:47 PM Subject: Re:

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Probably not that big of a deal. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Valdis Kletnieks" To: "Colin Johnston" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 3:20:01 PM Subject: Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic ap

Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-21 Thread Curtis Maurand
On 7/20/2015 5:59 PM, Ricky Beam wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 06:45:43 -0400, Seth Mos wrote: For now, all the customers with the Ubee in bridge mode are SOL. It's not clear what the reason is, but Ubee in bridge mode with IPv6 is listed on the road map. If that's intentional policy or that th

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Curtis Maurand
DNS is still largely UDP. --Curtis On 7/20/2015 5:40 PM, Ca By wrote: Folks, it may be time to take the next step and admit that UDP is too broken to support https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-byrne-opsec-udp-advisory-00 Your comments have been requested On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:57 AM, D

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-21 Thread Curtis Maurand
That may be true of metro areas, but in rural USA there's plenty of TDM to go around. Telco's are still delivering broadband on ADSL and phone on TDM. Worse those trunked circuits are TDM over HDSL. In many rural areas, there's not even ADSL or cable and that's within 40 miles of a small city

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Hello, folks! Could anybody tun my toolkit https://github.com/FastVPSEestiOu/fastnetmon with collect_attack_pcap_dumps = on option agains this attack type? With pcap dump we could do detailed analyze and share all details with Community. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > >

Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours

2015-07-21 Thread Jared Mauch
I'm reminded of the "the russians are hacking our water system" stories from a few years back, when it turned out the water system adminstrator was on vacation in russia. often traffic comes from unexpected locations. perhaps you should fail-closed with good business practices to

Why we did Internet-in-a-box (was: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"?)

2015-07-21 Thread Roland Perry
In article , Brett Watson writes This goes back a number of years. There was a product that literally was a cardboard box that contained everything one needed to get started on the Internet. Just add a modem and a computer, and you were on your way. No fuss, no "learning curve”. MCI (way ba