Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Randy Bush
> jokes aside, Its a hypothesis worth testing. It has qualities which > make it plausible. > > So please, between you, find a way to specify and test it! although the hypothesis has some intuitive appeal, how to test it is far from obvious. and i note that, as a senior member of the measurement

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou via NANOG
In our case IPv6 traffic is ~27% of total, with ~58% dual-stack subscribers and ~7% ds-lite subscribers. -- Tassos nanog-...@mail.com wrote on 20/1/16 14:14: > Hello all, > > Would those with IPv6 deployments kindly share some statistics on their > percentage of IPv6 traffic? > > Bonus points f

Re: Arista optics

2016-01-20 Thread Sean
No support ticket needed: localhost login: admin localhost>ena localhost#bash Arista Networks EOS shell [admin@localhost ~]$ touch /mnt/flash/enable3px [admin@localhost ~]$ sudo reboot As for the OP’s question, I’ve run Cisco OEM, Brocade OEM, and a number of different 3rd party SFP/SFP+s in

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Randy Bush
>>> We could assert that the TTL is an indication of distance traveled. >> >> you might hypothesize it. but the wide variance in per-hop rtt would >> seem to belie that. >> >>> Maybe one should record the TTL and Address Family of all packets >>> received from the internet ('inbound') at the nex

RE: ICYMI: FBI looking into LA fiber cuts, Super Bowl

2016-01-20 Thread Matthew Black
Enclosed stadiums won't have to worry about remote drones until they get smart enough to open doors on their own. Not sure why the NFL gets uptight about unauthorized recording. Most sporting events have little value once the event is over. matthew black -Original Message- From: NANOG

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 08:23:09AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > > We could assert that the TTL is an indication of distance traveled. > > you might hypothesize it. but the wide variance in per-hop rtt would > seem to belie that. > > > Maybe one should record the TTL and Address Family of all packe

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Randy Bush
> We could assert that the TTL is an indication of distance traveled. you might hypothesize it. but the wide variance in per-hop rtt would seem to belie that. > Maybe one should record the TTL and Address Family of all packets > received from the internet ('inbound') at the next NANOG or IETF?

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Matt Palmer
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 01:14:42PM +0100, nanog-...@mail.com wrote: > Would those with IPv6 deployments kindly share some statistics on their > percentage of IPv6 traffic? https://twitter.com/discourse/status/679808652128030720 We're a smallish content source. - Matt

Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24

2016-01-20 Thread Jim Mercer
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 01:19:00PM -0600, Matthew D. Hardeman wrote: > I'm looking to buy a /24 of space for a new multi-homed network in the ARIN > region. Can anyone out there speak to going rates for a /24 and best > places to shop? if anyone is interested, i have some legacy ARIN space that i

Re: Comcast operator?

2016-01-20 Thread John Neiberger
Send me a note off-list and I can help. John On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Nick Ellermann wrote: > Is there a Comcast network opts person that could reach me off list? > I have a routing question that makes zero sense to us, while trying to > customer's issue at their office in Leesburg, VA

AW: Programmable SFP+ Transcievers

2016-01-20 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
I don't know the US pricing ... but in the EU get it for less :). I buy hundreds of optics per year from them - since 18 months they are our exclusive partner for optic deliveries. I've to work with Juniper, Extreme Networks, Cisco, Brocade, Fortinet, Radware and HP. Whatever you need: they mak

Comcast operator?

2016-01-20 Thread Nick Ellermann
Is there a Comcast network opts person that could reach me off list? I have a routing question that makes zero sense to us, while trying to customer's issue at their office in Leesburg, VA where Comcast is their upstream network service. It's a simple question, looking for a simple response, but

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread nanog-isp
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 Niels Bakker wrote: > https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/trends-visualizations-ipv6-adoption-ipv4-exhaustion-global-heat-map-network-country-growth-data.html Thanks, I looked at that link before I posted. Unfortunately the data is both too coarse and too narrow to b

NANOG a petri dish?

2016-01-20 Thread Scott Weeks
--- yoss...@bu.edu wrote: From: "Gilad, Yossi" ...by better understanding network operators' practices and concerns, we've created a short survey... - Anyone feeling like we're in a petri dish lately? scott

RE: RPKI Deployment Study

2016-01-20 Thread Gilad, Yossi
Dear Forum, To improve academic research on interdomain routing security by better understanding network operators' practices and concerns, we've created a short survey, sent to this mailing list last week: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1XHxWfUFP1lZRF0lhyDY9wZDGU81I7--65AnzhPF6cfc/viewform I

Re: Programmable SFP+ Transcievers

2016-01-20 Thread Denis Fondras
> How does Solid Optics compare on pricing? They don't list them on their > website. > Last time I checked, it was roughly US$90 for a SFP-10G-LR+-SO.

Re: ICYMI: FBI looking into LA fiber cuts, Super Bowl

2016-01-20 Thread Owen DeLong
Unmanned aircraft systems are subject to the same Temporary Flight Restrictions(TFR) as manned aircraft. While the TFRs for Superbowl 50 are not yet published, you can be assured that the FAA will issue some and likely several. Most likely everything below at least 10,000 feet for at least a 5

Re: ICYMI: FBI looking into LA fiber cuts, Super Bowl

2016-01-20 Thread Bacon Zombie
*Twitch **Plays* Super Bowl Drone needs to be a thing. On 20 Jan 2016 17:43, "Scott Whyte" wrote: > > > On 1/20/16 08:25, Naslund, Steve wrote: > >> Helicopters near the Super Bowl are cleared to be there and are flown by >> vetted professional pilots. A human pilot in a helicopter presumably ha

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 06:45 , Jared Mauch wrote: > >> >> On Jan 20, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Job Snijders wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:13:41PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: I propose the following axiom: the greater the distance over which a packet is forwarded, the less likely it is

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 04:41 , Job Snijders wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 01:32:11PM +0100, nanog-...@mail.com wrote: >> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 Jared Mauch wrote: >>> I currently see around 56.4:1 with the timing of peaks the same in v4 and >>> v6. >> So that's more in line with AMS

Re: Programmable SFP+ Transcievers

2016-01-20 Thread Colton Conor
The only downside I see to Flexoptix is that their pricing for their SFPs, and you must use their SFPs, are much more expensive than already programmed SFP's from low cost providers. For example, a regualr 10GBASE-LR SFP+ 1310nm 10km from Fiberstore is $34 ( http://www.fs.com/10gbase-lr-sfp-1310nm

Re: Arista optics

2016-01-20 Thread Eric Litvin
Luma Optics has Arista Compatibles available. Please bear in mind some versions of Arista OS do not accept compatibles. We are happy to discuss our findings with you. Eric Luma Optics 650 996 7270 Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Alex Forster wrote: > > Hi everyone! >

Re: Arista optics

2016-01-20 Thread Tom Hill
On 20/01/16 16:56, Jeroen Wunnink wrote: > We have good experience with Flexoptix. You can brand them yourself > using their (free?) USB box to any vendor you want, including Arista. > Not sure if they have QSFP's yet, but we have CFP-LR4's running > successfully on multiple paths of our backbone.

Re: Arista optics

2016-01-20 Thread Jeroen Wunnink
We have good experience with Flexoptix. You can brand them yourself using their (free?) USB box to any vendor you want, including Arista. Not sure if they have QSFP's yet, but we have CFP-LR4's running successfully on multiple paths of our backbone. On 20/01/16 17:39, Alex Forster wrote: Hi eve

Re: Arista optics

2016-01-20 Thread John Kinsella
Last I heard, EOS locks out non-Arista optics by default. You have to contact support for instructions to enable 3rd party modules. I’m running all Arista cables/optics - at the point when we ordered the pricing was competitive with 3rd party, but that was several years ago and the vendor was h

RE: Arista optics

2016-01-20 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
Go with Solid Optics (www.solid-optics.com). I can share a good sales contact offlist. Best regards Jürgen Jaritsch Head of Network & Infrastructure ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH Telefon: +43-5-0556-300 Telefax: +43-5-0556-500 E-Mail: j...@anexia.at Web: http://www.anexia.at Anschrift

Re: ICYMI: FBI looking into LA fiber cuts, Super Bowl

2016-01-20 Thread Scott Whyte
On 1/20/16 08:25, Naslund, Steve wrote: Helicopters near the Super Bowl are cleared to be there and are flown by vetted professional pilots. A human pilot in a helicopter presumably has some kind of qualification to be there while a drone (although I don't like that word) could be flown by

Arista optics

2016-01-20 Thread Alex Forster
Hi everyone! I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco

RE: ICYMI: FBI looking into LA fiber cuts, Super Bowl

2016-01-20 Thread Naslund, Steve
Helicopters near the Super Bowl are cleared to be there and are flown by vetted professional pilots. A human pilot in a helicopter presumably has some kind of qualification to be there while a drone (although I don't like that word) could be flown by any moron with a couple hundred bucks. I al

Re: ICYMI: FBI looking into LA fiber cuts, Super Bowl

2016-01-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 15:41:31 -0600, Rafael Possamai said: > I fail to see how drones relate to fiber cuts and the superbowl. Did the > article author just throw that in there? The news helicopter getting aerial > footage also poses a risk, so not sure what's special about drones. Drones don't cost

Re: New Switches with Broadcom StrataDNX

2016-01-20 Thread Jeff Tantsura
That's right, logic is in programming chips, not their property. You just need to know what to program ;-) Regards, Jeff > On Jan 19, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > >> On 20/Jan/16 00:17, Phil Bedard wrote: >> >> Good point, there are many people looking at what I call FIB optim

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Job Snijders wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:13:41PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: >>> I propose the following axiom: the greater the distance over which a >>> packet is forwarded, the less likely it is to be an IPv6 packet. >> >> that is a hypothesis not an axio

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Job Snijders
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:13:41PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > > I propose the following axiom: the greater the distance over which a > > packet is forwarded, the less likely it is to be an IPv6 packet. > > that is a hypothesis not an axiom [...] Thanks. > but an interesting hypothesis. how do y

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Randy Bush
> I propose the following axiom: the greater the distance over which a > packet is forwarded, the less likely it is to be an IPv6 packet. that is a hypothesis not an axiom, especially without considerable measurement to back it up. but an interesting hypothesis. how do you propose to test it? r

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Niels Bakker
* nanog-...@mail.com [Wed 20 Jan 2016, 13:15 CET]: Would those with IPv6 deployments kindly share some statistics on their percentage of IPv6 traffic? https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/trends-visualizations-ipv6-adoption-ipv4-exhaustion-global-heat-map-network-country-growth-data.html

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Job Snijders
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 01:32:11PM +0100, nanog-...@mail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 Jared Mauch wrote: > > I currently see around 56.4:1 with the timing of peaks the same in v4 and > > v6. > So that's more in line with AMS-IX (70G/4T) than Comcast/Swisscom > then. AMS-IX: > https:

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread nanog-isp
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 Jared Mauch wrote: > I currently see around 56.4:1 with the timing of peaks the same in v4 and v6. So that's more in line with AMS-IX (70G/4T) than Comcast/Swisscom then. AMS-IX: https://ams-ix.net/technical/statistics/sflow-stats/ipv6-traffic - Jared (the First o

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:14 AM, nanog-...@mail.com wrote: > > Hello all, > > Would those with IPv6 deployments kindly share some statistics on their > percentage of IPv6 traffic? > > Bonus points for sharing top IPv6 sources. Anything else than the usual > suspects, Google/YouTube, Netflix and

IPv6 traffic percentages?

2016-01-20 Thread nanog-isp
Hello all, Would those with IPv6 deployments kindly share some statistics on their percentage of IPv6 traffic? Bonus points for sharing top IPv6 sources. Anything else than the usual suspects, Google/YouTube, Netflix and Facebook? Some public information I've found so far: - Comcast around 25%

RE: Programmable SFP+ Transcievers

2016-01-20 Thread t...@pelican.org
On Monday, 18 January, 2016 19:02, "Colton Conor" said: > What options are out there for re-programmable SFP and SFP+ transceivers? > So far I have found both > https://www.flexoptix.net/en/flexbox-v3-transceiver-programmer.html and > http://solid-optics.com/tools/multi-fiber-tool/so-multi-fiber-

Re: de-peering for security sake

2016-01-20 Thread Colin Johnston
cats are nice colin Sent from my iPhone > On 19 Jan 2016, at 15:12, "Michael O'Connor" wrote: > > Why do we believe network administrators can advocate perfectly for > customer access? > I couldn't control my own children's access without making us all > miserable. > > Nation state access con