Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Fake competition. Lack of innovation competition. Lack of diversity. As I said, there are plenty of ways to utilize independents to accomplish reasonable goals. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Rod Beck
Thousands of ISPs that collectively add up to a pimple on a horse's ass. In practice you have two dominant landline providers in each market, the ILEC and the cable company. A duopoly with a competitive fringe. Whereas other countries like South Korea and France have achieved much higher broadba

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Canada should just have Comcast (or is it "Xfinity"?) provided nation-wide Internet service as a for-profit monopoly. Just as long as we have *someone* to Telus whom to chose.

Re: Wanted: volunteers with bandwidth/storage to help save climate data

2016-12-23 Thread Doug Barton
On 12/21/2016 06:15 PM, Royce Williams wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Ken Chase wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 04:41:29PM -0800, Doug Barton said: [..] >>Everyone has a line at which "I don't care what's in the pipes, I just >>work here" changes into something more actionable. >

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Mike Hammett
In the US there are thousands of independent ISPs. I assume Canada at least has hundreds of them. There are plenty of ways of utilize independents to improve access versus throwing cash into a fan. Not to mention the ridiculousness of a 50/10 requirement. - Mike Hammett Intelligent C

Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase

2016-12-23 Thread Philip Homburg
>What I mostly meant is that there should be a regulated, industry-wide >effort in order to provide a stable and active pool program. With the >current models, a protocol that is widely used by commercial devices is >being supported by the time and effort of volunteers around the world. My emp

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread John Sage
On 12/23/2016 05:18 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: The government getting involved with the Internet rarely goes well. The FCC is a shining example of how to usually do it wrong. I agree. To hell with 'government'. What has it done for you lately, anyway? Canada should just have Comcast (or is it "

Benefits (and Detriments) of Standardizing Network Equipment in a Global Organization

2016-12-23 Thread Chris Grundemann
Hail NANOGers! A global hospitality organization with 100+ locations recently asked us how to weigh the importance of standardizing infrastructure across all their locations versus allowing each international location to select on their own kit. My first instinct was to jump on my favorite search

Weekly Routing Table Report

2016-12-23 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
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Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2016-12-23 10:37, Seth Mattinen wrote: > It would certainly suck to be an ISP in Canada and be forced to fund > your competitors. Or does Canada not have any small privately run ISPs > like we do in the US? We not only have smaller ISPs, but also a wholesale framework where ISPs can purchase

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/22/16 6:59 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: Nothing happens for now because a "follow up" process is needed to decide how the funding mechanism will work (what portions of a companies revenues are counted to calculated its mandated contribution to fund) and how the process of bidding for sub

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
Awesome, some maybe in 5 years we'll see the speeds we should have seen 20 years earlier! Can't wait! On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > The government getting involved with the Internet rarely goes well. The > FCC is a shining example of how to usually do it wrong. > > > > >

Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

2016-12-23 Thread Mike Hammett
The government getting involved with the Internet rarely goes well. The FCC is a shining example of how to usually do it wrong. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jean-Francois Mezei" To