Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread Mel Beckman
John, It's a California State government agency. Does that make a difference? -mel > On Mar 16, 2017, at 9:53 PM, John Curran wrote: > > Mel - > > US Government agencies should contact GSA (or DoD/DISA, for those in > military/intelligence communities) for advice on these matters. > > Th

Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread John Curran
Mel - US Government agencies should contact GSA (or DoD/DISA, for those in military/intelligence communities) for advice on these matters. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN > On Mar 17, 2017, at 12:12 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: > > I have a government agency client with a number

Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: > Their space is legacy, and they don't pay ARIN. They declined the offer to > pay ARIN some time ago :) > Ah, well good news and bad news. The good news is that they can do whatever they want with their space except make ARIN recognize a tra

Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread Mel Beckman
Jimmy, Their ARIN record says Direct Assignment rather than Direct Allocation, so it does appear ARIN considers them an end user. Also, I see no prior SWIPs, so possibly they never SWIPed their previous customers. I'll have to give ARIN a call. -mel > On Mar 16, 2017, at 6:08 PM, Jimmy Hess

Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread Mel Beckman
Their space is legacy, and they don't pay ARIN. They declined the offer to pay ARIN some time ago :) -mel > On Mar 16, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Bob Evans wrote: > > Simple to check. Most likely legacy space if early 90s. Enter them in the > ARIN search box and learn more. And note if the agency is

Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread Mel Beckman
This agency already is an ISP - they started out as an ISP for other government agencies. But I'll verify their ARIN records to be sure ARIN sees it that way, since they launched as an ISP back in the 1990s. -mel > On Mar 16, 2017, at 5:44 PM, William Herrin wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017

RE: Microsoft Skype for Business Contact - Broken PMTUD

2017-03-16 Thread Christian Kuhtz via NANOG
Hi Reuben, I've responded offline. Thanks, Christian -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Reuben Farrelly via NANOG Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 6:15 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Microsoft Skype for Business Contact - Broken PMTUD Hi, Can

Microsoft Skype for Business Contact - Broken PMTUD

2017-03-16 Thread Reuben Farrelly via NANOG
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Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: > Bill, > Is there a technically a restriction preventing swiping of this IP space when > it's being rented? How is that different from an ISP swiping its customers > that are renting bandwidth? This is a difference between an "Allocated" blo

Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread Bob Evans
Simple to check. Most likely legacy space if early 90s. Enter them in the ARIN search box and learn more. And note if the agency is paying arin annually? Possible? Thank You Bob Evans CTO > I have a government agency client with a number of /24s that they acquired > back in the 1990s when they

Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: > Is there a technically a restriction preventing swiping of this IP space when > it's being rented? How is that different from an ISP swiping its customers > that are renting bandwidth? Hi Mel, You'd have to ask ARIN to be sure, but I belei

Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread Mel Beckman
Bill, Is there a technically a restriction preventing swiping of this IP space when it's being rented? How is that different from an ISP swiping its customers that are renting bandwidth? -mel via cell > On Mar 16, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 3/16/17 17:19, William Herrin w

Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/16/17 17:19, William Herrin wrote: There's probably a legal mess around a government entity renting IP addresses. If the entity is registered as an end user (instead of as an ISP) then such rentals might also be considered fraudulent. On a purely pragmatic level, it's also an exceedingly ba

Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread William Herrin
> There's probably a legal mess around a government entity renting IP > addresses. If the entity is registered as an end user (instead of as > an ISP) then such rentals might also be considered fraudulent. On a purely pragmatic level, it's also an exceedingly bad idea to let a private party who ma

Re: Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: > I have a government agency client with a number of /24s that they acquired > back in the > 1990s when they operated as an ISP for other agencies. They are interested in > renting > or selling these addresses. Are there any existing ARIN or ot

Government agency renting or selling IP space

2017-03-16 Thread Mel Beckman
I have a government agency client with a number of /24s that they acquired back in the 1990s when they operated as an ISP for other agencies. They are interested in renting or selling these addresses. Are there any existing ARIN or other legal restrictions against government organizations doing

Re: 4or6.con question

2017-03-16 Thread jimmy keffer
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Re: 4or6.con question

2017-03-16 Thread Alexandru Suciu via NANOG
If its a linux box and most likely it isand depending on the number of hops from 4or6.com to your target machine it is possible that the probes reach you with higher port number the the ones you allowed. For example this is what I get when I trace to google which is 10 hops away. Probes that m

4or6.con question

2017-03-16 Thread jimmy keffer
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