Re: Comparison of freeware open source switch software?

2018-01-09 Thread Raymond Burkholder
On 01/09/2018 10:46 PM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: My understanding was that when you buy software such as Cumulus Linux, what you are actually paying for is the Broadcom license. You can actually go and download Cumulus Linux and it's all open source except, you guessed it, switchd, which is what t

Re: Comparison of freeware open source switch software?

2018-01-09 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
My understanding is the same as Ricky's. At least in the Broadcom word, you have to license the SDK from Broadcom in order to develop against it and, more importantly, have documentation of which register does what. I don't know if you need to license it to program the ASIC (assuming you can do it

Re: Comparison of freeware open source switch software?

2018-01-09 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
https://www.opennetworking.org/ Hardware works quite well. I have a number of whitebox units deployed based off their designs and will be ordering more. On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Ricky Beam wrote: > On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 02:17:59 -0500, Hank Nussbacher > wrote: > >> so to clarify I am inte

Re: Comparison of freeware open source switch software?

2018-01-09 Thread Ricky Beam
On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 02:17:59 -0500, Hank Nussbacher wrote: so to clarify I am interested only in bare-metal or whitebox swicthes and freeware, open source software. It's my understanding that there simply is no such thing. Because none of the HARDWARE has open source code. Sure, anyone can

Re: GTV-ETH-2-COAX - Is this HomePNA?

2018-01-09 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 10:57:49AM -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > Looking at doing a one-off extension over RG6 and have these devices in > hand. Anyone know if they're HPNA? Manual I have found doesn't > specify, but frequency ranges don't appear to be MoCA (but also don't > appear to be HPNA 1.

GTV-ETH-2-COAX - Is this HomePNA?

2018-01-09 Thread Ray Van Dolson
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RE: Comparison of freeware open source switch software?

2018-01-09 Thread Edwin Pers
> SwitchDev, which is incorporated into the Linux kernel Neat! I'll have to keep my eyes on this in the future, it'd be cool if we could have VyOS handling routing on the hardware and the vm hosts, would save me a bit of brainpower -Ed -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun..

RE: Comparison of freeware open source switch software?

2018-01-09 Thread Raymond Burkholder
> > Not necessarily true anymore. Look for SwitchDev, which is > > incorporated into the Linux kernel , is undergoing continuous > > improvement, and allows the kernel to offload forwarding rules to the > hardware. > > The overall architecture of openswitch, however, seems (to me) to be > focused

Re: Blockchain and Networking

2018-01-09 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:22 AM, William Herrin wrote: > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:07 AM, John R. Levine wrote: > > > How about validating whether a given AS is an acceptable origin for a set > >> of prefixes? > > > > > That's a job for ordinary PKI. Any time you have a trusted central > in part

Re: Blockchain and Networking

2018-01-09 Thread Jörg Kost
New devices like the former Brocade SLX even has its own hypervisor on x86-intel and runs an Ubuntu VM for management and monitoring. You can even install your own things, therefore new applications and purposes will rise in the future. I also believe that dockerization will come to the net

Re: Blockchain and Networking

2018-01-09 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:07 AM, John R. Levine wrote: > How about validating whether a given AS is an acceptable origin for a set >> of prefixes? > > That's a job for ordinary PKI. Any time you have a trusted central authority to serve as an anchor, ordinary PKI works fine. The RIRs serve as anch

RE: Comparison of freeware open source switch software?

2018-01-09 Thread 7riw77
> > If you're only interested in stuff that goes on iron, openvswitch is > > out - it's pure software meant to run on hypervisors > > Not necessarily true anymore. Look for SwitchDev, which is incorporated into > the Linux kernel , is undergoing continuous improvement, and allows the kernel > to

RE: Comparison of freeware open source switch software?

2018-01-09 Thread Raymond Burkholder
> > If you're only interested in stuff that goes on iron, openvswitch is out - > it's > pure software meant to run on hypervisors > Not necessarily true anymore. Look for SwitchDev, which is incorporated into the Linux kernel , is undergoing continuous improvement, and allows the kernel to o

Re: Blockchain and Networking

2018-01-09 Thread Brian Kantor
It seems to me that at the current moment in the evolution of bitcoin, the only way to make money from it is to sell the equipment to mine coins, as the chances of ever making any money from mining coins yourself are vanishingly small. And then only if you get your electricity and cooling for free

Re: Blockchain and Networking

2018-01-09 Thread Michael Crapse
The definition of an ASIC is that it has only one use. Just because half of a 100gb switch is not in use doesn't mean that you can mine bitcoin, or run a blockchain with the asics not in use.. On 9 January 2018 at 08:49, Jean | ddostest.me via NANOG wrote: > BTC miners use asics. Big switches/ro

Re: Blockchain and Networking

2018-01-09 Thread Jean | ddostest.me via NANOG
BTC miners use asics. Big switches/routers use 100Gb asics. Some switches have multiple 100 Gb asics and sometimes only half is use or even less. I guess it could be nice for some smaller telcos to generate some profit during off peak period. I don't know how feasible and I fully understand that t

Re: Comparison of freeware open source switch software?

2018-01-09 Thread Hugo Slabbert
Just a note that Cumulus is disaggregated and built on FOSS, but it is not free (costs dollars). Some of the below lifted from http://packetpushers.net/virtual-toolbox/list-network-operating-systems/ Other somewhat free options, some user assembly required at times: https://snaproute.com/ htt

RE: Blockchain and Networking

2018-01-09 Thread Naslund, Steve
Sure but there are lots of blockchains other than bitcoin. A lot of real smart people do not even suspect that bitcoin is a long term survivor due to its long transaction times. Which blockchains do you want to support? 150GB may not seem like a lot (although a lot of my gear does not have th

Re: Any experience with FS hardware out there?

2018-01-09 Thread Hugo Slabbert
Largely from web searches, the price seemed to shake out around there. This wasn't from wholesale / direct Edge-Core pricing. -- Hugo Slabbert | email, xmpp/jabber: h...@slabnet.com pgp key: B178313E | also on Signal On Mon 2018-Jan-08 20:30:01 -0600, Colton Conor wrote: Where do yo

Re: Blockchain and Networking

2018-01-09 Thread Hugo Slabbert
A slightly more pessimistic view: https://hackernoon.com/ten-years-in-nobody-has-come-up-with-a-use-case-for-blockchain-ee98c180100 -- Hugo Slabbert | email, xmpp/jabber: h...@slabnet.com pgp key: B178313E | also on Signal signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Blockchain and Networking

2018-01-09 Thread Christopher Morrow
(watching this thread and wondering..) On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 2:39 AM, Peter Kristolaitis wrote: > On 2018-01-08 10:19 PM, John Levine wrote: > >> In article <0c45eee2-ffcb-2066-1456-eb2d38075...@alter3d.ca>, >> Peter Kristolaitis wrote: >> >>> We can build all of the above in other ways today

RE: DSL CPE

2018-01-09 Thread Shawn L via NANOG
At $dayjob we use both Comtrend and Zyxel modems. Both have a 1-port modem that can be deployed in bridged mode. They both seem to work well with Calix gear. We've found the Zyxel modems tend to work a little better at longer loop lengths. But, for us at least, it's very easy to get custom f

Re: DSL CPE

2018-01-09 Thread Bryon Adams
We're using Visionnet m505+. They seem to do well enough for our users. Our DSL footprint more rural than not and a few have needed range extenders for larger houses as these only have N wireless. I can get pretty much any stats I need from them by logging in and poking around the statistics pag

Re: DSL CPE

2018-01-09 Thread Joshua Zukerman
The CLEC that I do some contract work for uses a basic single port ethernet only Comtrend 5072T ADSL2+ modem for all residential customers and business customers who don't have a bonded connection. Very reliable modem. The 5071 had bad powersupplies, but seemed worked better on loops with lousy sta

DSL CPE

2018-01-09 Thread Mike Hammett
After a few off-list responses (and a couple on) encouraging me to use NANOG, here we go... I've recently walked in to a voice\DSL CLEC that has basically been left to entropy for the last ten years. A lot of the core systems just work, but a lot of things aren't exactly managed the best. The

Re: DSL Operators Mailing List?

2018-01-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Nothing specific at this time, just always on the look out for appropriate venues for discussion. The more generic the question, the more I'd rather lurk to get an answer vs. posting about it and I haven't seen too many (any?) on DSL lately. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Soluti

ARIN on the Road events - San Diego (23 Jan) and Albuquerque (25 Jan)

2018-01-09 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - If you know of anyone who would benefit from learning more about the ARIN registry and related services, feel free to direct them to one of these upcoming "ARIN on the Road” events taking place later this month in San Diego and Albuquerque - registration now open

RE: Comparison of freeware open source switch software?

2018-01-09 Thread Edwin Pers
Here's one you missed: http://www.projectfloodlight.org/indigo/ If you're only interested in stuff that goes on iron, openvswitch is out - it's pure software meant to run on hypervisors -Ed -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Hank Nussbacher Sent

Re: Courses/Trainings for NOC leaders

2018-01-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
These books. https://www.amazon.com/UNIX-Linux-System-Administration-Handbook/dp/0131480057 https://www.amazon.com/Practice-System-Network-Administration-Enterprise/dp/0321919165/ https://www.amazon.com/Practice-Cloud-System-Administration-Practices/dp/032194318X/ https://www.amazon.com/Time-Mana

Courses/Trainings for NOC leaders

2018-01-09 Thread Ramy Hashish
Hello there, I am looking for recommendations -preferably based on experience- for training/workshops for NOC engineers that have made significant difference in root cause analysis, analytical thinking, troubleshooting skills and problem solving skills. Thanks, Ramy

Re: MTU to CDN's

2018-01-09 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 8 janvier 2018 15:08 -0800, joel jaeggli  : >> N00b here trying to understand why certain CDN's such as Cloudfare have >> issues where my MTU is low. For instance if I am using pptp and the MTU is >> at 1300 it wont work. If I increase to 1478 it may or may not work. > PMTUD has a lot of troub