Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 7:38 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > Whois contact details need to work so you can contact the zone owner when > the DNS is broken for the zone. > > Publishing Whois data in the zone does not work for this purpose. > > This is not to discount other reasons for

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 21:25:09 -, "Naslund, Steve" said: > And you would be violating the law if it was ruled that your publication was > in fact a publication under the law. Citation please, where anonymous publication is, in and of itself, illegal under US law pgp3RkhByE_QC.pgp

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 20:53:06 -, "Naslund, Steve" said: > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary > Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > > No one ever had the liberty of publishing information to the public without > accountability. > You are

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 12:03:37 +0200, Tei said: > Maybe a good balance for whois is to include organization information > so I know where a website is hosted, but not personal information, so > I can't show in their house and steal their dog. In many cases, the *OWNER* of a website doesn't have any

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

Whois contact details need to work so you can contact the zone owner when the DNS is broken for the zone. Publishing Whois data in the zone does not work for this purpose. This is not to discount other reasons for having a independent communications channel. -- Mark Andrews > On 21 Apr

RE: Is WHOIS going to go away?

- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - One last OT point. It's Friday after all... :)

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

Steve, I believe you are mistaken as to current law in the USA: The Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly that the right to anonymous free speech is protected by the First Amendment. A frequently cited 1995 Supreme Court ruling in McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission reads: Anonymity is a shield

Re: Quanta LB4M

Happy it’s helping! - Jared > On Apr 20, 2018, at 5:30 PM, Dylan Ambauen wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > I tossed a few different firmware versions I extracted here, as well as the > flash0/flash1 images and the doc

RE: Is WHOIS going to go away?

>Now we're way off-topic, but our constitution acknowledges that is a >pre-existing right. The constitution didn't grant it to you. (Rights are >inherent, privileges are granted) > >People have the right to speak, write, and publish whatever they want. > >-A Our Constitution does not equal

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 2:27 PM Naslund, Steve > wrote: > > > They did not in fact have the "right" to publish those pamphlets. > > > Now we're way off-topic, but our constitution

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 2:27 PM Naslund, Steve wrote: > They did not in fact have the "right" to publish those pamphlets. Now we're way off-topic, but our constitution acknowledges that is a pre-existing right. The constitution didn't grant it to you. (Rights are

Re: Quanta LB4M

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > I tossed a few different firmware versions I extracted here, as well as > the flash0/flash1 images and the doc i found for it. > http://puck.nether.net/~jared/lb4m/ Thank you Jared. Still helpful almost 3 years

RE: Is WHOIS going to go away?

>Steve, > >I think you should re-examine the early history of the USA. Anonymous >pamphleteering was the origin of our rebellion against England, >with Benjamin Franklin and many of the other founding fathers >publishing without their identities being registered anywhere. The >Federalist Papers

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

Steve, I think you should re-examine the early history of the USA. Anonymous pamphleteering was the origin of our rebellion against England, with Benjamin Franklin and many of the other founding fathers publishing without their identities being registered anywhere. The Federalist Papers which

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

> "Wrong on several counts. You can publicly access the records of who owns every radio station, television station, and newspaper in the US and a lot of other countries. " You can't access their *sources* without a warrant. You seem to be conflating private individuals with corporations. >

RE: Is WHOIS going to go away?

>...in every other form of communication, the phrase "get a warrant" comes to >mind. >Except on the internet where we require the information to be public so that >anyone and their dog can view it without a warrant. Wrong on several counts. You can publicly access the records of who owns

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:53 PM Keith Medcalf wrote: > This last statement is entirely untrue. WHOIS provides information as to > the PUBLISHER (such as one would find on the masthead of a newspaper). > This is, ought to be, and should remain, public information. > Oh, so

RE: Is WHOIS going to go away?

>> "I don't see why there should not be a way to know who is >> publishing data on the Internet. In almost all other forms >> of communication, there is some accountability for the >> origination of information." >...in every other form of communication, the phrase "get a warrant" >comes to

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

> "I don't see why there should not be a way to know who is publishing data on the Internet. In almost all other forms of communication, there is some accountability for the origination of information." ...in every other form of communication, the phrase "get a warrant" comes to mind. Except on

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

That just sounds like a minor change to fix this, a bug. No need to burn down the house to kill a mosquito. And my suggestion to move the publicly visible WHOIS information into the DNS and thus completely under the domain owner's control would fix this with minimal effort from the registrant.

RE: Is WHOIS going to go away?

I don't see why there should not be a way to know who is publishing data on the Internet. In almost all other forms of communication, there is some accountability for the origination of information. Newspaper publishers are known, radio stations are usually licensed and publicly known,

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 4:10 PM, wrote: > > On April 20, 2018 at 12:03 oscar.vi...@gmail.com (Tei) wrote: > > Maybe a good balance for whois is to include organization information > > so I know where a website is hosted, but not personal information, so > > I can't show in

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

On April 20, 2018 at 12:03 oscar.vi...@gmail.com (Tei) wrote: > Maybe a good balance for whois is to include organization information > so I know where a website is hosted, but not personal information, so > I can't show in their house and steal their dog. > > I feel uneasy about having my

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

Inline... On April 20, 2018 at 03:47 fa...@gatech.edu (Badiei, Farzaneh) wrote: > Dear John, > > > The days when some in the technical community could just discard others > arguments by saying that "[you] have no idea how the Internet works" have > long > passed. I will not get

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Re: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

Well, if the US government spies on everyone using exported cisco hardware, why wouldn't the PRC do the same? On 20 April 2018 at 08:59, Aaron Gould wrote: > Thanks Colton, Since I live in the US, and work for a boss that’s nervous > (concerned) about those things, then I

RE: Suggestion for Layer 3, all SFP+ switches

Thanks Colton, Since I live in the US, and work for a boss that’s nervous (concerned) about those things, then I comply. I remember mentioning Huawei as an option recently in a meeting and the boss and a few other fellow engineers were nervous and resistant to it. I tend to feel the same.

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

Yes looks like they are both under pressure. I feel bad for the USA based employees. I know Huawei has quite a few in Plano, Texas. With both ZTE and Huawei out of the picture for USA operators, who is the low cost leader in this space then? On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 7:56 AM, STARNES, CURTIS <

RE: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

Same for Huawei. https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/26/17164226/fcc-proposal-huawei-zte-us-networks-national-security https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2018/04/19/analyst-chinas-huawei-to-quit-u-s-market/#194f570211cb https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/technology/huawei-trade-war.html I

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

Josh, I like the whitebox route, but I can't find anything that will come close price wise. Example, Huawei S6720 with 24 10G ports, 2 40G ports, and full MPLS operating system from Huawei is $3500 out the door with a lifetime warranty. I can't even find a whitebox hardware, not even accounting

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

Ah. ZTE is in a spot of trouble right about now. http://www.scmp.com/tech/article/2142557/zte-calls-us-government-ban-extremely-unfair-vows-fight-its-rights On 20/04/18, 5:58 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Colton Conor" wrote: Of the

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

Why not just go the whitebox route and pick your NOS of choice? Far cheaper, and far more flexible. On Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 7:28 AM Colton Conor wrote: > Of the two large Chinese Vendors, which has the better network operating > system? Huawei is much larger that ZTE is

China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

Of the two large Chinese Vendors, which has the better network operating system? Huawei is much larger that ZTE is my understanding, but larger does not always mean better. Both of these manufactures have switches and routers. I doubt we will use their routing products anytime soon, but the

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

Tei wrote: > > Maybe a good balance for whois is to include organization information > so I know where a website is hosted, but not personal information, so > I can't show in their house and steal their dog. > > I feel uneasy about having my phone available to literally everyone on > the internet.

Re: Is WHOIS going to go away?

Maybe a good balance for whois is to include organization information so I know where a website is hosted, but not personal information, so I can't show in their house and steal their dog. I feel uneasy about having my phone available to literally everyone on the internet. -- -- ℱin del