Re: Confirming source-routed multicast is dead on the public Internet

2018-08-02 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/Aug/18 19:43, Tarko Tikan wrote: >   > > We are an IPTV provider in europe and we definetly see share of linear > TV (that we are delivering via intra-AS multicast today) decreasing YOY. > > OTT plays a big part but even more customers use our own on-demand > services including network PVR

Re: Confirming source-routed multicast is dead on the public Internet

2018-08-02 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/Aug/18 00:15, Job Snijders wrote: > However, as you noted; multicast within a single administrative domain > (such as an access network distributing linear TV), or confined to > purpose-built L3VPNs very much is a thing. On the public Internet multicast > seems dead. I'd concur. Mark.

Re: deploying RPKI based Origin Validation

2018-08-02 Thread Mark Tinka
On 27/Jul/18 16:40, Job Snijders wrote: > This is awesome! I think it is important to have multiple high quality > implementations so operators have a choice, this way we can work > towards a healthy routing security software ecosystem and avoid > mono-culture. Yes, great to see more implement

Re: possible hawaii weather issue next week

2018-08-02 Thread Robert DeVita
Especially with the main carrier Hotel being located next to the ocean. Robert DeVita Managing Director Mejeticks c. 469-441-8864 e. radev...@mejeticks.com From: 32531414200n behalf of Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 4:27 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: possible ha

Re: [Nanog] BGPMon RPKI Validation Failed (Code: 9)

2018-08-02 Thread Andree Toonk
Hi Michel, it looks likes you have RPKI validation enabled for this prefix in BGPmon.net. This will tell BGPmon to run the RPKI validation checks for the prefix and alert you if there's no valid ROA found. This bgpmon alert below is from July 20 which was right around the time the ROA was created

Re: possible hawaii weather issue next week

2018-08-02 Thread Scott Weeks
If you have stuff in Hawaii, you might want to start thinking about your DR plan. Things can change a lot for the better in 7 days, but they can also get ugly fast. Best to prepare just in case... https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_ep5+shtml/204426.shtml

RE: Confirming source-routed multicast is dead on the public Internet

2018-08-02 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG
You could put this multicast receiver into the last hop before the customer and then send unicast to the customer. Regards, Jakob. -Original Message- From: Saku Ytti Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 2:45 PM To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Confirming source-rout

RE: Confirming source-routed multicast is dead on the public Internet

2018-08-02 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG
ok. Play 2 minutes of ads at the start and save a stream. Play another 2 minutes of ads every 16 minutes, then the maximum number of streams is 4. The ads can be received in a single stream or be received after the shorter streams have completed. Regards, Jakob. -Original Message- From

Re: Confirming source-routed multicast is dead on the public Internet

2018-08-02 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 00:42, Saku Ytti wrote: > Cute :). Well 8*bitrates, but nice optimisation to make stream count > finite. Of course at cost of quality, as receiver needs up-speed of 8x > at start. Interesting side-effect, quality increases as movie > progresses :) I may have worded up-speed

Re: Confirming source-routed multicast is dead on the public Internet

2018-08-02 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey, On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 00:36, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG wrote: > Hey, there's a better way. > Split the movie into segments: > Segment 1: Minute 1. > Segment 2: Minute 2. > Segment 3: Minutes 3,4. > Segment 4: Minutes 5-8. > Segment 5: Minutes 9-16. > etc. > Then send each segment in a

Re: Confirming source-routed multicast is dead on the public Internet

2018-08-02 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG
Hey, there's a better way. Split the movie into segments: Segment 1: Minute 1. Segment 2: Minute 2. Segment 3: Minutes 3,4. Segment 4: Minutes 5-8. Segment 5: Minutes 9-16. etc. Then send each segment in a loop. Each receiver receives every loop simultaneously. Each segment may start receiving part

possible hawaii weather issue next week

2018-08-02 Thread Scott Weeks
If you have stuff in Hawaii, you might want to start thinking about your DR plan. Things can change a lot for the better in 7 days, but they can also get ugly fast. Best to prepare just in case... https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_ep5+shtml/204426.shtml?cone https://www.nhc.noaa.gov

Re: [Nanog] BGPMon RPKI Validation Failed (Code: 9)

2018-08-02 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Michel, This question is probably best answered by Andree Toonk from the BGPMon project. I've CCed him. Kind regards, Job On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Michel Py wrote: > Hi Nanog, > > I received recently some of these messages, and I don't understand the logic > of them. > If there i

[Nanog] BGPMon RPKI Validation Failed (Code: 9)

2018-08-02 Thread Michel Py
Hi Nanog, I received recently some of these messages, and I don't understand the logic of them. If there is no ROA found, the code should be 1, and the status unknown / not found. What is the logic behind getting a Validation failure if there is no ROA ? Please help RPKI n00b, Thanks. ===

Re: Confirming source-routed multicast is dead on the public Internet

2018-08-02 Thread Sean Donelan
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018, John Levine wrote: In article you write: Multicast is being used in various private IP networks. It seems to work very well for satellite content distribution because multicast doesn't require ack's. Enterprise networks also use multicast. I would think it'd work fine on

Re: Confirming source-routed multicast is dead on the public Internet

2018-08-02 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >Multicast is being used in various private IP networks. It seems to work >very well for satellite content distribution because multicast doesn't >require ack's. Enterprise networks also use multicast. I would think it'd work fine on private networks, but since there's no

Re: Confirming source-routed multicast is dead on the public Internet

2018-08-02 Thread Sean Donelan
Thanks to everyone that helped. Off-list I heard from network engineers at several global Internet providers. They all confirmed that multicast is no longer supported on their public Internet backbones, no matter what their sales people might say. If someone opened a multicast trouble ticket,