Re: U.S. Senate: READI Act 2019 re-introducted

On 10/25/19 11:21 AM, Sean Donelan wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, Michael Thomas wrote: Content provider is pretty ill defined -- everything is "content". But I'm not sure why it should reside in smart assistants either. What if I don't want or use any of them? They're awfully invasive. And it

Re: New Alaskan Network

Seems hard to justify without government subsidies for rural broadband. From: NANOG on behalf of Dan Hollis Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:36 PM To: Keith Medcalf Cc: Nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: New Alaskan Network The verge is garbage. That is all. -Dan

Re: IPv4 and Auctions

Are any of the rats using routable IP addresses? On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 10:11 AM wrote: > > There's a fairly famous animal behavior experiment where rats are > allowed to multiply in a room-sized cage without control, food and > water and basic sanitation are provided. > > When the cage becomes

Re: Unable to email anyone from my primary domain name; thanks Google Mail and G Suite.

On Friday 2019-10-25 01:22, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 01:21:12PM -0700, Mark Milhollan wrote: My experience says that: their system has learned that your system(s) continued to send messages that their user (yes you, but they don't know that) did not want [and nothing influ

RE: New Alaskan Network

The verge is garbage. That is all. -Dan On Fri, 25 Oct 2019, Keith Medcalf wrote: Bwahahahaha! It is internally inconsistent. Perhaps this is just shoddy reporting, or perhaps the whole thing is just someone's idea of a wet dream. "The line will begin in North Pole, Alaska and will travel

RE: New Alaskan Network

Bwahahahaha! It is internally inconsistent. Perhaps this is just shoddy reporting, or perhaps the whole thing is just someone's idea of a wet dream. "The line will begin in North Pole, Alaska and will travel through Canada, connecting with Canadian carriers, where it will finally connect with

Re: U.S. Senate: READI Act 2019 re-introducted

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, Michael Thomas wrote: Content provider is pretty ill defined -- everything is "content". But I'm not sure why it should reside in smart assistants either. What if I don't want or use any of them? They're awfully invasive. And it doesn't seem that you need them for amber ale

Fiber Builds

https://www.lightwaveonline.com/network-design/high-speed-networks/article/14036681/centurylink-adding-47-million-fiber-miles-to-us-european-fiberoptic-networks [https://img.lightwaveonline.com/files/base/ebm/lw/image/2019/07/LWcenturylink072319.5d37725f33e82.png?auto=format&fit=max&w=1200]

Facebook the Wholesale Fiber Provider

https://engineering.fb.com/connectivity/fiber-optic-cable/ [https://engineering.fb.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/fiberbuild.jpg] Building network infrastructure with fiber-optic cable - Facebook Engineering

Weekly Routing Table Report

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@li

New Alaskan Network

Unusual in that it will traverse Canada to reach the lower 48. https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/1/18525866/alaska-fiber-optic-network-cable-continental-us-100-terabit [https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0w80DQVzjT8MXT05t-SSNgXP7uA=/0x78:1100x654/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/fil

Re: Cloudflare "Magic" IP Transit

You find it hypocritical that they host booter services? I find it hypocritical (and criminal, if anyone could prove it more than laughably strong correlation) that Cloudflare sales reps had such an impressive knowledge of when sites were getting DDoSed that they could show up to offer service b

Re: IPv4 and Auctions

There's a fairly famous animal behavior experiment where rats are allowed to multiply in a room-sized cage without control, food and water and basic sanitation are provided. When the cage becomes extremely crowded rats are observed gnawing on each other's tails. -- -Barry Shein Softwa

Re: Couple of questions about "baremetal/ONIE" networking equipment sellers

On 10/25/19 9:13 AM, Drew Weaver wrote: > > Hello, > >   > > 1. I was reading about Cumulus and came across a note about > bm-switch.com, does anyone have any experience purchasing switches > from bm-switch.com? What was your experience like? > 2. Same question about hardware from FS.com

Re: Cloudflare "Magic" IP Transit

On 10/25/19 8:43 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Is the pricing any different if PNI or an IX is used for the hand-off > instead of GRE? > > DDoS-filtered transit is generally expensive, compared to not-filtered > transit. > More expensive, by leaps and bounds. Don't know who could or would possibly pay

Couple of questions about "baremetal/ONIE" networking equipment sellers

Hello, 1. I was reading about Cumulus and came across a note about bm-switch.com, does anyone have any experience purchasing switches from bm-switch.com? What was your experience like? 2. Same question about hardware from FS.com any problems there? Thanks! -Drew

Re: Cloudflare "Magic" IP Transit

Yep second that opinion - $5000/mo for 1gbps of filtered traffic over gre tunnel. On 10/25/19 1:55 AM, David Guo via NANOG wrote: > Hi Jared, > > We have contacted them, and I can just tell you the price is expensive, not > magic 😃 > > Regards, > > David > > -Original Message- > From:

Re: Unable to email anyone from my primary domain name; thanks Google Mail and G Suite.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 07:52:17AM -0700, Damian Menscher via NANOG wrote: > > There is a persistent mythos -- a worst practice, actually -- among many > > operations that obfuscating the reasons why messages are rejected is > > useful. > > This is wrong. > > > > Consider: either the sender is beni

Re: Unable to email anyone from my primary domain name; thanks Google Mail and G Suite.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 5:34 AM Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 06:18:46PM -0600, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > it is revealed that Postmaster Tools cannot tell me anything at all, with > > all tabs and screens being 100% blank, allegedly because I'm not > actually a > > mass e

RE: BGP over TLS

> From: Christopher Morrow > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 7:08 AM > > > > > So move from bilateral peering over common IX-LAN to direct > > > > peering Or if a direct link is still not to be trusted do MACSEC. > > > > Then it's all about you and the peer -if he/she screws you over de-peer. > >

RE: Cloudflare "Magic" IP Transit

Hi Jared, We have contacted them, and I can just tell you the price is expensive, not magic 😃 Regards, David -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Jared Brown Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 2:53 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Cloudflare "Magic" IP Transit Hello NANOG! Does an

Re: Unable to email anyone from my primary domain name; thanks Google Mail and G Suite.

[ Again, just commenting on one point. ] On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 01:21:12PM -0700, Mark Milhollan wrote: > My experience says that: their system has learned that your system(s) > continued to send messages that their user (yes you, but they don't know > that) did not want, i.e., you left it marked