Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2019-12-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On 30/Dec/19 09:12, Christopher Morrow wrote: > Huh, you mean since you have to deploy a tower/unit every ~100 meters > to get 5g to actually work at reasonable speeds (with nothing in the > line of sight) you're going to need a bunch more people to put up > these new things-ma-bobs? In my

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2019-12-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 5:50 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > An interesting article on the road to 5G that they need to about double > the size of the workforce to roll it out. I expect that this affects > some of you directly. Huh, you mean since you have to deploy a tower/unit every ~100 meters

Re: Iran cuts 95% of Internet traffic

2019-12-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:02 PM Keith Medcalf wrote: > > > Why would anyone with anything important to say use somethingmail.com > > Somethingmail.com is not e-mail. It is a Giggle Gaggle Google thing. huh what? ;; ANSWER SECTION: somethingmail.com. 86400 IN MX 10 mail.somethingmail.com. ;;

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2019-12-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On 30/Dec/19 00:49, Michael Thomas wrote: > > https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/29/big-barrier-trump-5g-america-089883 > > > An interesting article on the road to 5G that they need to about > double the size of the workforce to roll it out. I expect that this > affects some of you directly.

Re: ServiceFinder: Ärendenummer 185392

2019-12-29 Thread Ross Tajvar
I've been getting these too. It'd be nice if the admins could unsubscribe these people. On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 5:26 PM J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > Well if that ain’t just plain spam I don’t know what is! > > -- > J. Hellenthal > > The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway

RE: Iran cuts 95% of Internet traffic

2019-12-29 Thread Keith Medcalf
Why would anyone with anything important to say use somethingmail.com Somethingmail.com is not e-mail. It is a Giggle Gaggle Google thing. -- The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. >-Original Message- >From:

Re: Iran cuts 95% of Internet traffic

2019-12-29 Thread Karl Auer
On Sun, 2019-12-29 at 16:16 -0600, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > Personally, email would be the easiest to block behind riuting. "Give me ssh and an open port and I shall tell the world"   - Archimedes, circa 250 BC Of course, he'd still need a network. I think the point about email is that

5G roadblock: labor

2019-12-29 Thread Michael Thomas
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/29/big-barrier-trump-5g-america-089883 An interesting article on the road to 5G that they need to about double the size of the workforce to roll it out. I expect that this affects some of you directly. But one of its premises seems a little shaky to

Re: Iran cuts 95% of Internet traffic

2019-12-29 Thread Scott Weeks
--- jhellent...@dataix.net wrote: From: "J. Hellenthal" Yeah sorry to say any email list or not is going to be one of the things that are not going to get through unless ... you’ve taken extra measures to circumvent that. Personally, email would be the easiest to block behind riuting.

Re: ServiceFinder: Ärendenummer 185392

2019-12-29 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
Well if that ain’t just plain spam I don’t know what is! -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > On Dec 29, 2019, at 16:18, i...@servicefinder.com wrote: > >  > Vänligen skriv endast ovanför denna

Re: Iran cuts 95% of Internet traffic

2019-12-29 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
Yeah sorry to say any email list or not is going to be one of the things that are not going to get through unless ... you’ve taken extra measures to circumvent that. Personally, email would be the easiest to block behind riuting. -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but

Re: Iran cuts 95% of Internet traffic

2019-12-29 Thread Scott Weeks
:: If you're trying to get information in/out of a :: society that is raising network barriers to :: realtime communication, then you need methods :: that don't rely on a network and aren't realtime. This is a great idea, but 99.9% of folks use GUI email. :-( scott --- r...@gsp.org

Re: Iran cuts 95% of Internet traffic

2019-12-29 Thread Rich Kulawiec
And this is why, despite all the disdainful remarks labeling such things as "antiquated", mailing lists and Usenet newsgroups are vastly superior to web sites/message boards/et.al. when it comes to facilitating many-to-many communications between people. Why? Well, there are many reasons, but