Re: BGP full feed for testing purposes

You can also launch a VM in your lab https://stubarea51.net/2016/01/21/put-50-bgp-routes-in-your-lab-network-download-this-vm-and-become-your-own-upstream-bgp-isp-for-testing/ On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 1:42 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Greg Sowell helps you out here: > >

Re: Is there *currently* a shortage of IPv4 addresses?

> On Aug 4, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Tom Beecher wrote: > > The only other option then becomes the secondary transfer markets, where > costs to acquire v4 space are much higher than what direct allocations from > the RIRs used to be. > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:35 PM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. >

Re: Is there *currently* a shortage of IPv4 addresses?

$2/month is one of the more reasonable pricing schemes I’ve seen. Many providers are gouging $5 and in some cases as much as $15/month for static IPv4 addresses. The good news is that IPv6 is still quite inexpensive and works even better. Owen > On Aug 4, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Baldur Norddahl

Re: Is there *currently* a shortage of IPv4 addresses?

IP address space is no longer free. But an ISP or hosting company is a trader of addresses now and like everything else we do, there is an opportunity to make a margin. Say the provider bought at $12 per address and assuming IPv4 is needed for at least 10 years, that would only be .1 USD/month.

Comcast Business contact?

My apologies for the spam, but if there's someone from Comcast Business land who is available off-list please ping me. I've got a VIP at my employer that's having a ton of issues with his Comcast Business service, and we're not making much progress. Thanks, John

Re: AS6327/Shaw contact

I got what I needed. Thanks! Eric On Aug 4 2020, at 3:21 pm, Eric Dugas wrote: > Hello NANOG, > > Could somebody from AS6327/Shaw's network team contact me off-list? I’ve > tried the peering and NOC aliases and got automated replies but no follow ups > in months. > Thanks > Eric

Re: Is there *currently* a shortage of IPv4 addresses?

Agreeing with the other replies about scarcity. Also wanted to comment that address exhaustion affects web hosts particularly hard because "SEO experts" continue to believe that if a site they work on does not have an exclusive IP, they're being penalized by Google. They'll convince clients

Re: Is there *currently* a shortage of IPv4 addresses?

> I know that a shortage of IPv4 addresses has been anticipated for > quite some time (literally decades), however, is there a shortage > *right now*? yes, ipv4 space is tight > our per IPv4 address price to $2.00 per IP. open market is O($20) per host address. that is 'buying' it. and then

Re: Is there *currently* a shortage of IPv4 addresses?

Yes. Every RIR has either assigned all the space that it has been allocated, or is getting very close and restricting the amount of v4 addresses that can be requested. Once that occurs, you can get on a waiting list to obtain space from the RIR that has been returned to the pool, but there are no

Re: Is there *currently* a shortage of IPv4 addresses?

Anne, IPv4 has been depleted in ARIN region since ~2015, it's supply and demand. On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:36 PM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: > I know that a shortage of IPv4 addresses has been anticipated for quite > some time (literally decades), however, is there a shortage *right now*? >

RE: Issue with Noction IRP default setting (Was: BGP route hijack by AS10990)

I was made aware of another bug in IOS-XR: CSCuv94859. Thanks Job and Ryan. It caused some routes with NO_EXPORT to sometimes be advertised to EBGP after an NSR switchover during a software upgrade. It was fixed in 2015. Regards, Jakob. -Original Message- From: Jakob Heitz (jheitz)

Is there *currently* a shortage of IPv4 addresses?

I know that a shortage of IPv4 addresses has been anticipated for quite some time (literally decades), however, is there a shortage *right now*? I ask, because Liquid Web is using it as an excuse to raise their prices: "We're contacting you today to inform you of a change to your account. As

AS6327/Shaw contact

Hello NANOG, Could somebody from AS6327/Shaw's network team contact me off-list? I’ve tried the peering and NOC aliases and got automated replies but no follow ups in months. Thanks Eric

Re: Issue with Noction IRP default setting (Was: BGP route hijack by AS10990)

CSCdj01351. Fixed in 1997. Regards, Jakob. -Original Message- Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:29:59 -0700 From: Ryan Hamel ... Also, wasn't it you that said Cisco routers had a bug in ignoring NO_EXPORT? ...

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:00 PM Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > > Intel definitely is pressing for containerized data plane. > > Here, @20:49 (registration required), I placed that very question and it took > a bit of humming to obtain a straight answer :) > I'm shocked, shocked to discover

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> Mark Tinka > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:54 PM > > On 4/Aug/20 16:46, Djamel Sadok wrote: > > > > > > How about hardware slicing support? such as switch, server and router > > slicing? is this supported/desirable? > > So you mean dump the VLAN model and give each service its own switch? >

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

Router/switch slicing is supported but not really used much adam From: NANOG On Behalf Of Djamel Sadok Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:47 PM To: Etienne-Victor Depasquale Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G? How about hardware slicing support? such

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

Intel definitely is pressing for containerized data plane. Here , @20:49 (registration required), I placed that very question and it took a bit of humming to obtain a straight answer :) Etienne On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:38 PM

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

Not sure what you mean NFV is NFV, >From NFV perspective cRDP is no different than vMX -it’s just a virtualized >router function nothing special… Also with regards to NFV markets, it’s just CPE or telco-cloud (routing on host, FWs, LBs and other domain specific network devices like SBCs),

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > PS. All of the current attempts to turn IP statistical multiplexing into > network slicing or deterministic networks are far from scale or practical > deployments (IMO). > Wow, that's quite a statement (I'm not disparaging, just surprised). Etienne On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:37 PM Robert

RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

Wondering whether the industry will consider containerised data-plane in addition to control-plane (like cRDP). Having just control-plane and then hacking to kernel for doing the data-plane bit is …well not as straight forward as having a dedicated data-plane VM or potentially container.

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> > So not sure what applications are driving the demand for "greater QoS" > on 5G networks, in real terms. > Mark, V2X, no? Otherwise, I'm perfectly in agreement with what you've just written. Etienne On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:02 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 4/Aug/20 16:56, Etienne-Victor

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

> I doubt we want to move away from those concepts. I think we all do - except technology is not there yet. Just imagine if over a single piece of fiber you will get infinite bandwidth delivered over unlimited modulation frequency spectrum ... IMHO till real true optical switching is a

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 17:00, Djamel Sadok wrote: > > > I mean virtualization of the hardware in terms of running different > router/switch/server instances/VMs/ on the same platform. Is this > desirable? So you mean like multiple VM's, on the same server, each representing an NFV-based

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 16:56, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > The survey I pointed to suggests that hard slicing is the least > preferred option among survey respondents. That's because the very nature of DWDM, Ethernet, IP, MPLS and VM's is all about re-using the same infrastructure over and over

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

I mean virtualization of the hardware in terms of running different router/switch/server instances/VMs/ on the same platform. Is this desirable? On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:53 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 4/Aug/20 16:46, Djamel Sadok wrote: > > > > > > How about hardware slicing support? such as

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

The survey I pointed to suggests that hard slicing is the least preferred option among survey respondents. Etienne On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:53 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 4/Aug/20 16:46, Djamel Sadok wrote: > > > > > > How about hardware slicing support? such as switch, server and router > >

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 10:36 AM Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > > I think that it's validation of QoS that really matters now. note that it's qos at many layers in the stack as well: 1) your application 'qos' on the machine(s) on which it runs 2) your application's traffic qos on the

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 16:46, Djamel Sadok wrote: > > > How about hardware slicing support? such as switch, server and router > slicing? is this supported/desirable? So you mean dump the VLAN model and give each service its own switch? Or do you mean use one server but give each service its own VM? Or

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

How about hardware slicing support? such as switch, server and router slicing? is this supported/desirable? Djamel On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:37 AM Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > I think that it's validation of QoS that really matters now. > > If I were to base on this recent video from

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

On 4/Aug/20 16:35, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > I think that it's validation of QoS that really matters now. > > If I were to base on this recent video from Keysight > >  (warning: > requires

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

I think that it's validation of QoS that really matters now. If I were to base on this recent video from Keysight (warning: requires registration), then it seems that there's a lot of emphasis on