RE: Wildfires: Clear fuel from hilltop and remote area communications towers

2020-09-11 Thread Don Gould
Eric they have the same issues in Australia.   You might want to join aunog, if you haven't already, I'm sure you'll find endorsement for these issues.Fuel management is a problem. Finding the right balance between management and ecological issues is political and complex with many vested

Wildfires: Clear fuel from hilltop and remote area communications towers

2020-09-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Over the past week I think I've seen about 20 to 30 photos of burnt out communications sites in Oregon and California. Due to the often remote and unstaffed nature of many of these sites, there's a natural tendency for brush, shrubs, grass and small trees to grow close to the tower compounds on

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo ITechGeek! On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:11:48 -0400 ITechGeek wrote: > At least cell phones have a reliable way to know where they are at any > given moment. Only when the cell towers are working. Early on in the Santiam Fire the cell towers went down early. With the telephone poles. The

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
I would trust it more than not getting an alert. Especially if it started with something along the lines of "There is a tornado warning for Springfield and North Haberbrook" and I had enough brain cells to know what city I was in. -A On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:14 PM ITechGeek wrote: > At least

how would draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds work in noam

2020-09-11 Thread Randy Bush
would folk familiar with the north american RIR and IRR registries be kind enough to suggest how this might adapt? thanks. A new version of I-D, draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds-02.txt has been successfully submitted by Randy Bush and posted to the IETF repository. Name:

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread ITechGeek
At least cell phones have a reliable way to know where they are at any given moment. Would you really trust providers sending out emergency notifications based on something like GeoIP or based on the zipcode on the account?

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020, William Herrin wrote: tl;dr: keep your cell phone on and with you 'cause only a few things get emergency alerts and only when they're turned on. You sound like the CTIA in the 2000s when it was opposed to requiring emergency alerts on cell phones. "Its unnecessary to

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Jason Kuehl
Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV and Alphabet Android TV executives don't see a need to support emergency alerts on their products. You can enable severe weather alerts on both google home and Alexia. But I get the point. On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 2:58 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > > As some of the largest

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Matt Erculiani
Linking relevant past thread about devices that don't alert for emergencies and, of course, a heated debate on if they should: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-March/199721.html On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:24 PM William Herrin wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Sean

Re: Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Sean Donelan wrote: > you won't get emergency alerts on those streaming devices. > Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV and Alphabet Android TV executives don't see a > need to support emergency alerts on their products. Also worth noting that you won't get emergency alerts

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

2020-09-11 Thread Josh Luthman
That very well could be. We pushed/pulled about 2 miles with this stuff. Took about a day. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 5:24 PM Jared Mauch wrote: > The pulling lube does not work well IMO, the

Re: [External] Re: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'

2020-09-11 Thread Hunter Fuller
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:05 AM Mark Tinka via NANOG wrote: >> Circling back to earlier where I said there are almost 70k ASNs in use on >> the public Internet. Most of those operators don't have complex >> configurations. I'd be surprised if less than half of them had anything more >> than

Wildfires: Reminder smart devices don't include emergency warnings while streaming

2020-09-11 Thread Sean Donelan
As some of the largest wildfires burn along the West Coast, and over 500,000 people evacuate, a reminder that streaming devices do not include local emergency alerts. Cord-cutters using Alphabet Android TV, Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV "smart" devices should remember they don't have emergency

Weekly Routing Table Report

2020-09-11 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to

Re: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'

2020-09-11 Thread Tom Beecher
I completely agree that there is value for people sharing different community structures that they have created for certain use cases. Such things are generally useful for both operators of any experience level. On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 8:08 AM wrote: > Reg the BCP38 vs RFC I guess is point in

RE: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'

2020-09-11 Thread adamv0025
Reg the BCP38 vs RFC I guess is point in case (standard or best practice, the adoption is still low) Reg the community tagging design, Well it’s daily job of architects/designers to come up with new designs, standards and frameworks that can then be adopted by engineering/ops or