RE: SRv6

2020-09-21 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Monday, 21 September, 2020 16:16, Randy Bush wrote: >> I'm not sure what you're saying here, I never said MPLS VPNs are >> secure, only private. I hope others recognise that they are >> different concepts. >yes, privacy is one aspect of security. and, as mpls vns are not >private sans encry

NANOG SPAM (was Re: Just got this apparently fake NANOG invoice - Looks phishy)

2020-09-21 Thread Bryan Fields
On 9/21/20 7:28 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Can we please send this stuff to the admins and not the whole list? Both the list admin account in the headers and the ge...@nanog.org is monitored and responded to. If you don't get a reply, you all have my email too. What's happening here is a subscr

Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-21 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 9/21/20 11:03 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: Reminder: forwarding these sorts of things (with full headers please) to: nanog-spamm...@firemountain.net will cause them to be compiled into a list. Why not a nanog.org address? Is this simply being aggregated by a NANOG member / subscriber

Re: Just got this apparently fake NANOG invoice - Looks phishy

2020-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Can we please send this stuff to the admins and not the whole list? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chris Boyd" To: "NANOG" Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 6:20:31 PM Subject: Just

Just got this apparently fake NANOG invoice - Looks phishy

2020-09-21 Thread Chris Boyd
Apparent MS-Word doc attached. Be careful out there. Return-Path: Received: from cross6.lu-visp.net (cross6.lu-visp.net [62.182.179.184]) by lenny.gizmopartners.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 08LJIMld018071 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:18:25 GMT Message-Id: <202009211918.08ljimld0

Re: SPAM for nanog@ senders

2020-09-21 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
Hi Randy, > On 22 Sep 2020, at 00:14, Randy Bush wrote: > >> I already taught my SpamAssasin and then deleted them > > :0 > * ^From:.*@csvwebsupport.com > | /usr/bin/mail -s 'Screw You' dating.supp...@csvwebsupport.com < > ~/screw-you.txt I’m using different technique. I like tarpitting such

Re: SRv6

2020-09-21 Thread Randy Bush
james, > I'm not sure what you're saying here, I never said MPLS VPNs are > secure, only private. I hope others recognise that they are > different concepts. yes, privacy is one aspect of security. and, as mpls vns are not private sans encryption, they are not secure. randy

Re: SPAM for nanog@ senders

2020-09-21 Thread Randy Bush
> I already taught my SpamAssasin and then deleted them :0 * ^From:.*@csvwebsupport.com | /usr/bin/mail -s 'Screw You' dating.supp...@csvwebsupport.com < ~/screw-you.txt

Re: SRv6

2020-09-21 Thread Greg Shepherd
Call me old, but I miss the days when this thread was still on the SRv6 rails. Can we get back the proper bashing to match this thread title? -Shep > On Sep 21, 2020, at 13:54, James Bensley wrote: > >  > > On 19 September 2020 03:23:15 BST, Randy Bush wrote: >>> Information can be in pla

Re: SRv6

2020-09-21 Thread James Bensley
On 19 September 2020 03:23:15 BST, Randy Bush wrote: >> Information can be in plaintext and private > >Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead. -- franklin > >i know you truely believe the tunnel k00laid. the security >community does not. Hi Randy, I'm not sure what you're saying h

Re: SPAM for nanog@ senders

2020-09-21 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
Job, I already taught my SpamAssasin and then deleted them, and my Postfix is no longer taking submission from the IP from which they were sent - 216.176.196.72. They seem to be using correct sending host according to SPF record (host spamtitan.csvwebsupport.com validates using 'dating.supp...@cs

Re: SRv6

2020-09-21 Thread Tom Hill
On 21/09/2020 19:38, Randy Bush wrote: > newspeak -- 1984 colloquialism /kəˈləʊkwɪəlɪz(ə)m/ noun: a word or phrase that is not formal or literary and is used in ordinary or familiar conversation. -- Tom

Re: SRv6

2020-09-21 Thread Randy Bush
> One thing that is true: not all present or historical definitions > (or acceptable uses) of the word "private" strictly imply or infer > privacy. newspeak -- 1984

Re: SRv6

2020-09-21 Thread Tom Hill
On 19/09/2020 03:23, Randy Bush wrote: > i know you truely believe the tunnel k00laid. the security > community does not. At this point, I'm beginning to think that you're trolling us with the assertion(s) that the 'P' in "Virtual Private Network" has obviously meant "Privacy" all along, and/or t

Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-21 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:45:32PM -0400, Dovid Bender wrote: > Is anyone starting to get the "cogent emails" again? Reminder: forwarding these sorts of things (with full headers please) to: nanog-spamm...@firemountain.net will cause them to be compiled into a list. ---rsk

See what's in store for NANOG 80 Virtual

2020-09-21 Thread NANOG News
The NANOG Program Committee is preparing a solid program for NANOG 80, which will take place online October 19-21. Sessions will be held each day of the conference, from 12pm to 5pm EDT Monday through Wednesday, and will feature a variety of presentations, networking sessions, and BoFs on the late

Re: SPAM for nanog@ senders

2020-09-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On 21/Sep/20 12:47, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: NANOGers, Have you got email from 'dating.supp...@csvwebsupport.com’ immediately after you post to nanog@? First time I thought it’s coincidence, but today when I got it, it’s hardly one ;) Topic is '[#WHB-257-41491]: Re: XX’ where is sub

Re: SPAM for nanog@ senders

2020-09-21 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Łukasz, others, Can you please send any suspecious emails (including headers) to the mailing list admin team at ge...@nanog.org? We'll try to figure out if it happens through an existing subscription. Kind regards, Job (hat: NANOG geeks) On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:51:44PM +0200, Octolus D

Re: SPAM for nanog@ senders

2020-09-21 Thread Octolus Development
I did yeah, annoying. Best Regards, Octolus On 9/21/2020 12:50:54 PM, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: NANOGers, Have you got email from 'dating.supp...@csvwebsupport.com’ immediately after you post to nanog@? First time I thought it’s coincidence, but today when I got it, it’s hardly one ;) Topic is '

SPAM for nanog@ senders

2020-09-21 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
NANOGers, Have you got email from 'dating.supp...@csvwebsupport.com’ immediately after you post to nanog@? First time I thought it’s coincidence, but today when I got it, it’s hardly one ;) Topic is '[#WHB-257-41491]: Re: XX’ where is subject taken from last e-mail. I understand there’s

Re: SRv6

2020-09-21 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
Mark, > On 20 Sep 2020, at 13:02, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 19/Sep/20 22:53, Valdis Kl ē tnieks wrote: > >> Are there any actual countries heading that way? Seems like most of them >> insist >> they have the ability to snoop unencrypted traffic (where "crypto that has a >> baked-in >> b