Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-26 Thread Mel Beckman
I remember. And I have the HE.net Guru Badge to prove it :) And don’t forget the World IPv6 Launch in 2012. IPv6. The protocol of the future, and always will be :) -mel via cell > On Feb 26, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote: > > On 2/13/21 18:24, Mark Foster wrote: > >> So the busines

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-26 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 2/13/21 18:24, Mark Foster wrote: So the business case will be the 'killer app' or perhaps 'killer service' that's IPv6-only and that'll provide a business reason. But chicken and egg.. who wants to run a service that's IPv6-only and miss out on such a big userbase? Am I the only one who

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 2/26/21 12:10 PM, b...@uu3.net wrote: Hmm right... Somehow I tought that having that special Null MX will silently discard message... I dont know why... It's Friday. I'm presuming that many of us have had a long week and are ready for the weekend. ;-) So, RFC 7505 is pretty much even p

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >Hmm right... Somehow I tought that having that special Null MX >will silently discard message... I dont know why... > >So, RFC 7505 is pretty much even pointless in my opinion. >You have to do more.. to pretty much achieve the same.. >Its just easier to not having MX on subd

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >1. Is there anyone actively using this Null MX? If so, may I please see >that actual record line (in BIND zone file format) just to satisfy myself >that I wrote mine correctly? Yes. services.net. 3600IN MX 0 . >2. Which one makes more sense from the prac

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread Mark Andrews
I think just about everything has been said beyond contacting the operators of the online testing tools and requesting that they update their tool or to take it down. A broken tool is worse that no tool. The is too much out-of-date stuff on the Internet. We should all be doing our little bits t

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread John Peach
On 2/26/21 2:10 PM, b...@uu3.net wrote: > Hmm right... Somehow I tought that having that special Null MX > will silently discard message... I dont know why... > > So, RFC 7505 is pretty much even pointless in my opinion. > You have to do more.. to pretty much achieve the same.. > Its just easier to

Re: London Interxion Data Centers

2021-02-26 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace, On Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 10:05 PM Matthew Petach wrote: > Aren't they (LME) in Savvis, though? >> > That was certainly true in 2003, at least > Maybe it's still true today. tax.select.prd.lmexgw.com. *A*213.86.73.66 inetnum: 213.86.73.0 - 213.86.73.255 netname: NET-GB-LME descr: LME Sa

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread Alan Hodgson
On Fri, 2021-02-26 at 12:03 -0700, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote: > On 2/26/21 11:46 AM, b...@uu3.net wrote: > > Well, I bet my legacy system will bounce it for example... > > What specifically is the bounce? > I thought the purpose of the Null MX was to do two things: > 1) Provide as an MX that c

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread borg
Hmm right... Somehow I tought that having that special Null MX will silently discard message... I dont know why... So, RFC 7505 is pretty much even pointless in my opinion. You have to do more.. to pretty much achieve the same.. Its just easier to not having MX on subdomains that does not serve as

Re: London Interxion Data Centers

2021-02-26 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 4:56 AM Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: > Peace > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 3:06 PM Rod Beck > wrote: > >> My understanding is that there are three London Interxion data centers (I >> thought Equinix was the Borg and had assimilated pretty everything at this >> point). >> >> Tryin

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 2/26/21 11:46 AM, b...@uu3.net wrote: Well, I bet my legacy system will bounce it for example... What specifically is the bounce? I thought the purpose of the Null MX was to do two things: 1) Provide as an MX that can't be connected to. 2) Serve as a signal to things that know how to int

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread borg
Well, I bet my legacy system will bounce it for example... Postfix 3.0: RFC 7505 ("Null MX" No Service Resource Record), Earlier Postfix versions will bounce mail because of a "Malformed DNS server reply". I cant speak about Sendmail, qmail, Exim.. when they started supporting it. So, In my op

Weekly Routing Table Report

2021-02-26 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@li

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
OK. In your experience, which legacy system is going to misinterpret this record? The current RFC is from 2014-15 but the original idea from Mark Delany (then at Yahoo now at Apple) has been kicking around from 2006 or so. I remember contributing some text to the original draft RFC but can’t fi

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread borg
Thats cute, but remember that there are gazylion of legacy systems on Internet as well. They might have no clue what do do with it.. Also remember that MTA is supposed to accept email to [ip] too. On my opinion, its best to just have no MX record at all. While MTA can fallback and try to do delive

OARC 35 Workshop, May 6th & 7th, Registration and Call for Contributions now open

2021-02-26 Thread Jake Zack
OARC 35 will be an online meeting on May 6th & 7th starting at 01:00 UTC. The Programme Committee is seeking contributions from the community. All DNS-related subjects and suggestions for discussion topics are welcome. For inspiration, we provide a non-exhaustive list of ideas: - Stories of DNS

Re: London Interxion Data Centers

2021-02-26 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
Peace On Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 3:06 PM Rod Beck wrote: > My understanding is that there are three London Interxion data centers (I > thought Equinix was the Borg and had assimilated pretty everything at this > point). > > Trying to get the address where the facility where the London Metal > Exchang

Re: London Interxion Data Centers

2021-02-26 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Fri Feb 26, 2021 at 12:05:14PM +, Rod Beck wrote: > My understanding is that there are three London Interxion data centers (I > thought Equinix was the Borg and had assimilated pretty everything at this > point). The competition authoritites stopped them, part of the Telecity set of DCs w

London Interxion Data Centers

2021-02-26 Thread Rod Beck
Hi Folks, My understanding is that there are three London Interxion data centers (I thought Equinix was the Borg and had assimilated pretty everything at this point). Trying to get the address where the facility where the London Metal Exchange houses its trading engine. No, financial instituti

Re: Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
MTAs don’t care what online analysis tools tell you and setting a null MX for a domain that you don’t receive mail for will work just fine, for the reasons explained in the rfc Having no MX means the smtp connection will fall back to the A record for your domain if one exists --srs __

Newbie Question: Is anyone actually using the Null MX (RFC 7505)?

2021-02-26 Thread Pirawat WATANAPONGSE via NANOG
Dear all, I put the “Null MX” Record (RFC 7505) into one of my domains yesterday, then those online mail diagnostic tools out there start getting me worried: It looks like most of those tools do not recognize the Null MX as a special case; they just complain that they cannot find the mail server