Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 29/08/2021, Jay Hennigan wrote: > On 8/29/21 11:42, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > >> It would seem reasonable to leave the whole issue up to the courts, >> instead of engaging in contempt of foreign courts, and to stop the >> vigilante justice against any of the parties, especially the end

Re: Main electric transmission towers collapsed--New Orleans at 11% Internet connectivity

2021-08-29 Thread Sean Donelan
Statement from Entergy (regional electric power company): As a result of Hurricane Ida’s catastrophic intensity, all eight transmission lines that deliver power into the New Orleans area are currently out of service. When this occurred, it caused a load imbalance in the area and resulted in

Main electric transmission towers collapsed--New Orleans at 11% Internet connectivity

2021-08-29 Thread Sean Donelan
Due to catastrophic electric transmission line failures. All of Orleans Parish is currently without power. Over 830,000 electric customers in 8 counties have lost power. Approximately 80% of customers in southern Louisiana have lost power. Internet connectivity is down to 11% of normal

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 21:13 Rubens Kuhl wrote: > > %s/isolate/move/g functions. That equates to a leadership change. It may > be too soon to suggest that ICANN has any role other than risk analysis and > coordination of mitigation. I'm not even certain if that's their role > seeing how

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Rubens Kuhl
> %s/isolate/move/g functions. That equates to a leadership change. It may be > too soon to suggest that ICANN has any role other than risk analysis and > coordination of mitigation. I'm not even certain if that's their role seeing > how complicated the relationships between the RIR's and ICANN

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 8:44 PM Masataka Ohta < mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote: [ clip] As > > ICP-2: Criteria for Establishment of New Regional > Internet Registries > > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/new-rirs-criteria-2012-02-25-en > 2) The new RIR must

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Masataka Ohta
John Levine wrote: I would be astonished if ICANN had a position. For one thing, they have no provision for dealing with competing IP registries since the issue has never come up As ICP-2: Criteria for Establishment of New Regional Internet Registries

Re: What is your preferred outage tracking service? (Hurricane Ida)

2021-08-29 Thread Alberto Dainotti
> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: > > Netblocks is reporting connectivity in New Orleans LA is at 72% of normal as > Hurricane Ida makes landfall. > > https://twitter.com/netblocks/status/1432038858460442625 > > There are per-incident things, like the outages mailing list

Re: What is your preferred outage tracking service? (Hurricane Ida)

2021-08-29 Thread Jeroen Massar via NANOG
On 2021-08-29 23:29, Sean Donelan wrote: Netblocks is reporting connectivity in New Orleans LA is at 72% of normal as Hurricane Ida makes landfall. https://twitter.com/netblocks/status/1432038858460442625 There are per-incident things, like the outages mailing list and downdetector.com.  And

What is your preferred outage tracking service? (Hurricane Ida)

2021-08-29 Thread Sean Donelan
Netblocks is reporting connectivity in New Orleans LA is at 72% of normal as Hurricane Ida makes landfall. https://twitter.com/netblocks/status/1432038858460442625 There are per-incident things, like the outages mailing list and downdetector.com. And some academic outage discovery projects

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 8/29/21 11:42, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: It would seem reasonable to leave the whole issue up to the courts, instead of engaging in contempt of foreign courts, and to stop the vigilante justice against any of the parties, especially the end users who are not even a party to this whole

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
This whole discussion reminds me of the situation the security and vulnerability researchers often face from the corporate overlords. Why is noone talking about the real issue? Namely, how could a RIR be so easily shutdown by the courts with the jurisdiction? Why is this mailing list used to

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/29/21 19:03, Jay Hennigan wrote: Technically, four plus six Bigger, is better. Mark.

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 8/29/21 05:58, Mark Tinka wrote: Did you know... Africa runs IPv10... Technically, four plus six -- Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread John Levine
It appears that Mehmet Akcin said: > >I am kind of curious of the ICANN/IANA position on this? I would be astonished if ICANN had a position. For one thing, they have no provision for dealing with competing IP registries since the issue has never come up and, until this strange situation, seemed

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/29/21 09:33, Mike Hale wrote: I feel like some IP troll literally being able to shutter a regional registrar as part of a lawsuit should be a much bigger deal on this group... Did you know... Africa runs IPv10... Mark.

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/28/21 20:10, Jay Hennigan wrote: All it would take is for one 800-pound gorilla to do so. Cloud Innovations would implode should Google, Microsoft, or Amazon drop all traffic from those blocks. This! CI are pushing their case relying on the rest of the Internet community to keep

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Noah
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021, 21:25 Mehmet Akcin, wrote: > I am kind of curious of the ICANN/IANA position on this? > *4) Neutrality and impartiality in relation to all interested parties, and particularly the LIRs* All organisations that receive service from the new RIR must be treated equally. The

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Noah
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 12:33 PM Vincentz Petzholtz < v.petzho...@syseleven.de> wrote: > +1 on the "pro" side to keep this topic in focus (even on the NANOG list). > The community can not accept a situation where someone successfully stale > a RIR in order to max profit Considering Cloud

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Vincentz Petzholtz
+1 on the "pro" side to keep this topic in focus (even on the NANOG list). The community can not accept a situation where someone successfully stale a RIR in order to max profit (probably on the expense of the other [local] LIRs). I would very much like seeing updates on this matter here. imho,

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Mike Hale
I feel like some IP troll literally being able to shutter a regional registrar as part of a lawsuit should be a much bigger deal on this group... On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:49 PM Masataka Ohta wrote: > > Mehmet Akcin wrote: > > > I am kind of curious of the ICANN/IANA position on this? > >

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-29 Thread Masataka Ohta
Mehmet Akcin wrote: I am kind of curious of the ICANN/IANA position on this? https://afrinic.net/history In April 2005, ICANN accredited AFRINIC as the fifth Regional Internet Registry according to criteria defined in its ICP-2 document (criteria for the establishment of regional Internet