Re: Telecommunications network drafting software

2021-09-01 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Telecommunications network drafting software Date: Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 03:26:08PM -0400 Quoting Eric Kuhnke (eric.kuh...@gmail.com): > For logical diagrams of networks, on MacOS, I recommend Omnigraffle. OmniGraffle is what Visio would be if Visio was cool, looked good and didn't ha

Re: Reminder: Never connect a generator to home wiring without transfer switch

2021-09-01 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Let me clarify since this thread has resurrected itself. In the northern climates where I live, almost 100% of the heat during winter is either natural gas or propane. It's either fan forced or hot water. In each case, the amount of electricity consumed by a typical furnace is well under 15 am

Re: Reminder: Never connect a generator to home wiring without transfer switch

2021-09-01 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 9/1/21 21:13, Peter Beckman wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:  Is $40-60 low cost enough for you for safe, temporary generator connections? [snip]     Add a Generator Power Inlet Input (indoor or outdoor) rated at 30Amp     240v NEMA L6-30P, for exam

Re: Reminder: Never connect a generator to home wiring without transfer switch

2021-09-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/2/21 02:16, Eric Germann via NANOG wrote: 15kW is 15kVA (not 1.5 kVA) at a power factor of 1.0, if the heat is all resistive. Right! Even at a 0.8pf, 15kW is not 1.5kVA. I just didn't have the energy to get into it with him. Mark.

Re: Reminder: Never connect a generator to home wiring without transfer switch

2021-09-01 Thread Peter Beckman
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: I just wish the electrical code would permit or require certain low cost things which make temporary generator connections more likely to be safe. For example, code requires most furnaces to be hardwired. But a furnace is one of the

Re: Reminder: Never connect a generator to home wiring without transfer switch

2021-09-01 Thread Eric Germann via NANOG
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > > > > ... > 15kW is 1.5kVA in a simple radiant electric heat application. (it’s a simple > resistive load with no power factor weirdness). Whether you could do this > with 4-8kVA depends on what else you’re trying to run. > > >

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Justin Krejci
Well apparently there are VPN applications that rely on fellow VPN users in a P2P fashion to share network connectivity. I guess it is like a commercialized version of Tor to some extent. Excluding any potential legal risks for illegal behavior tunneled through an unsuspecting fellow user, this

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/1/21 3:17 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:28 PM > wrote: Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several people who'd tried would say don't do it. And everytime I see an email thread about the difference or not b

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 15:17 , Warren Kumari wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:28 PM mailto:b...@theworld.com>> > wrote: > > Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several > people who'd tried would say don't do it. > > And everytime I see an email thread about the

Re: Carbon Monoxide warnings - keep generators outside 20ft away from doors and windows

2021-09-01 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 9/1/21 15:07, Haudy Kazemi via NANOG wrote: Several articles have mentioned 8 transmission lines were lost to the hurricane (a single big event event). A casual reader might think 8 lines would offer an 8-way level of redundancy. My WAG is the reality of load vs capacity is more like a N-1

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Warren Kumari
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:28 PM wrote: > > Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several > people who'd tried would say don't do it. And everytime I see an email thread about the difference or not between monitors and TVs I'm taken over by an all consuming rage... I have a *

Re: Carbon Monoxide warnings - keep generators outside 20ft away from doors and windows

2021-09-01 Thread Haudy Kazemi via NANOG
Several articles have mentioned 8 transmission lines were lost to the hurricane (a single big event event). A casual reader might think 8 lines would offer an 8-way level of redundancy. My WAG is the reality of load vs capacity is more like a N-1 or N-2 redundancy, but that's really just a WAG. It

NANOG Embraces Hybrid FAQs + Upcoming Webinar

2021-09-01 Thread Nanog News
Upcoming Webinar - Fireside Chat with CENIC Network Interconnection Engineer *The fireside chat will include several topics including:* - The path taken to a tech career - What is CENIC - Opportunities for volunteer or educational work *Speaker:* Nick Plunkett, Network Interconnection E

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Haudy Kazemi via NANOG
Some TVs may also try to rescale the inputs, or enhance/process the image in ways that can improve perceived video quality. Things like increasing frame rates of sources that are lower frame rates (thus the 120 Hz and 240 Hz TVs that attempt to make 24, 30, and 60 FPS sources look better), or deint

Carbon Monoxide warnings - keep generators outside 20ft away from doors and windows

2021-09-01 Thread Sean Donelan
One person has died and at least 27 people are being treated for carbon monoxide poisoning from portable generators. Officials are reminding people to operate portable generators only outside, 20 feet away from homes, doors and windows. Not in carports, garages, basements. To restore power,

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Randy Bush
again, do not be distracted by the rather obvious DoS on this list. our administrative infra is being attacked. defend it by putting your money where your mouth is. https://www.tespok.co.ke/?page_id=14001 i did and will again. randy

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Noah
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 22:46 Owen DeLong via NANOG, wrote: > > > > On Sep 1, 2021, at 04:48 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > > > > > On 9/1/21 00:56, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > > > >> Not to put too fine a point on this, but what human cost? > >> > >> There were exactly 3 employees that AFRINIC wasn

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 13:30 , Tom Beecher wrote: > > They attacked a member on the basis of violations of rules that don’t > actually exist. > > You continually refer to AFRINIC's actions as an 'attack'. However, that > would seem to be an open question of law , which AFRINIC cannot litigate

Re: Happy 40th anniversary RFC 791!

2021-09-01 Thread John Curran
On 1 Sep 2021, at 2:42 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: > > For anyone unaware, Jon Postel, a good friend and mentor to many of us at the > dawn of the Internet, was the primary editor of this landmark document. > > Those were the days we thought ARPAnet would never be allowed to go > commercial. Thank

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Tom Beecher
> > They attacked a member on the basis of violations of rules that don’t > actually exist. > You continually refer to AFRINIC's actions as an 'attack'. However, that would seem to be an open question of law , which AFRINIC cannot litigate because they're have no access to their money. On Wed, S

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 11:25 , b...@theworld.com wrote: > > > Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several > people who'd tried would say don't do it. I think the gist was that > the image processors in the TVs would fuzz text or something like > that. That it was usable bu

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
Where possible vote with your dollars by selecting providers that do. Where there are multiple providers and none support v6, make it clear to all that the first one to support v6 will get your business and that subsequently, the best v6 support will win. Where there are not multiple providers,

Re: Happy 40th anniversary RFC 791!

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/1/21 12:26 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: I still have a slew on Lantronix terminal servers :) A few years back I was shocked to hear that the original OS that I wrote -- called whimsically Punix for Puny Unix -- which was used by Lantronix was still being sold. I mean, that's over 30 years ag

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 04:48 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 9/1/21 00:56, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > >> Not to put too fine a point on this, but what human cost? >> >> There were exactly 3 employees that AFRINIC wasn’t able to pay in July, >> including >> the CEO (who is one of the majo

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 04:21 , Tom Beecher wrote: > > AFRINIC has received clearance of enough money to cover their normal expenses > for August and September. As such, there shouldn’t be any problems with > salaries > or “human cost” in those months. Hopefully given that reprieve, cooler heads

Re: Telecommunications network drafting software

2021-09-01 Thread Mel Beckman
I’ve found PowerPoint amazingly versatile for network design. It’s primary advantage over dedicated tools like Visio is that you can mix in photos, talking points, and migration checklists. Plus everyone can read and edit PowerPoint. You can use the stencils and icons from many graphics librar

Re: Happy 40th anniversary RFC 791!

2021-09-01 Thread Mel Beckman
I still have a slew on Lantronix terminal servers :) -mel via cell > On Sep 1, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Michael Thomas wrote: > >  >> On 9/1/21 11:42 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: >> For anyone unaware, Jon Postel, a good friend and mentor to many of us at >> the dawn of the Internet, was the primary edit

Re: Telecommunications network drafting software

2021-09-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
For logical diagrams of networks, on MacOS, I recommend Omnigraffle. On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:36 PM Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > Hello folks, > > Would you care to share some pointers to drafting software which you use > to draw up architectural drafts (for tel

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/1/21 11:49 AM, Matthew Huff wrote: IPv6 tunnels work great for network geeks, but rather poorly for home users with streaming, gaming etc...It's not necessarily the performance, it's either the geolocation, latency, or the very issue that started this thread - VPN banning. Remember, th

Re: Telecommunications network drafting software

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Hallgren
TikZ ?  mh De : Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG Envoyé : mercredi 1 septembre 2021 20:30 À : NANOG Objet : Telecommunications network drafting software Hello folks, Would you care to share some pointers to drafting software which you use to draw up architect

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Nimrod Levy
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:26 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 9/1/21 10:59 AM, Nimrod Levy wrote: > > All this chatter about IPv6 support on devices is fun and all, but > > there are providers still not on board. > > They operate in my neighborhood and they know who they are... > > > This is about

Re: Telecommunications network drafting software

2021-09-01 Thread Fletcher Kittredge
For physical plant (fiber) design, analysis and inventory, Vetro is really useful. On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:37 PM Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > Hello folks, > > Would you care to share some pointers to drafting software which you use > to draw up architectural d

Re: Happy 40th anniversary RFC 791!

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/1/21 11:42 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: For anyone unaware, Jon Postel, a good friend and mentor to many of us at the dawn of the Internet, was the primary editor of this landmark document. Those were the days we thought ARPAnet would never be allowed to go commercial. Thanks to Jon’s tireles

RE: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Matthew Huff
IPv6 tunnels work great for network geeks, but rather poorly for home users with streaming, gaming etc...It's not necessarily the performance, it's either the geolocation, latency, or the very issue that started this thread - VPN banning. Remember, the streaming services couldn't care less abou

Re: Happy 40th anniversary RFC 791!

2021-09-01 Thread Mel Beckman
For anyone unaware, Jon Postel, a good friend and mentor to many of us at the dawn of the Internet, was the primary editor of this landmark document. Those were the days we thought ARPAnet would never be allowed to go commercial. Thanks to Jon’s tireless campaigning (among others), not to menti

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Tom Beecher
Televisions generally have a way smaller pixel density than a computer monitor. It is very noticeable. On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:27 PM wrote: > > Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several > people who'd tried would say don't do it. I think the gist was that > the image pr

Telecommunications network drafting software

2021-09-01 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG
Hello folks, Would you care to share some pointers to drafting software which you use to draw up architectural drafts (for telecoms networks, including cable operators' networks) ? I've found Visio to be a bit weak in this respect, even after adding third party stencils. One product I'm explorin

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/1/21 11:25 AM, b...@theworld.com wrote: Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several people who'd tried would say don't do it. I think the gist was that the image processors in the TVs would fuzz text or something like that. That it was usable but they were unhappy wi

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/1/21 10:59 AM, Nimrod Levy wrote: All this chatter about IPv6 support on devices is fun and all, but there are providers still not on board. They operate in my neighborhood and they know who they are... This is about inside your premise before any NAT's enter the picture. What would be

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread bzs
Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several people who'd tried would say don't do it. I think the gist was that the image processors in the TVs would fuzz text or something like that. That it was usable but they were unhappy with their attempts, it was tiring on the eyes.

Happy 40th anniversary RFC 791!

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Thomas
aka IPv4. The RFC doesn't have the exact date it was published, but the internet as we know it was being born. What a journey it's been. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc791 Mike

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Nimrod Levy
All this chatter about IPv6 support on devices is fun and all, but there are providers still not on board. They operate in my neighborhood and they know who they are... Nimrod

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 18:01 , Michael Thomas wrote: > > > On 8/31/21 4:40 PM, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: >> On the other hand, the last time I went looking for a 27” monitor, I ended >> up buying a 44” smart television because it was a cheaper HDMI 4K monitor >> than the 27” alternatives

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 17:51 , Michael Thomas wrote: > > > On 8/31/21 5:13 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote: >> On 8/31/21 16:32, Jeroen Massar via NANOG wrote: >> >>> Fun part being that it is hard to get a Dumb TV... though that is primarily >>> simply because of all the tracking non-sense in them t

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Lyden, John C
> But I also agree there are limits to what needs IoTing. I don't live in a > house large enough that I can't go see if the box needs cleaning within > about 20s. I also sure as hell don't need a notification on my phone that > one of them just made a deposit. *ding!* 1 New Notification: "clean my

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Valerie Wittkop
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Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Brielle
On Sep 1, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > >  > >> On 9/1/21 13:21, Tom Beecher wrote: >> >> >> There are enough challenges with the internet in Africa to work through >> already. We shouldn't encourage more difficulties by endorsing strongarm >> tactics that prevent issues from being

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/1/21 13:21, Tom Beecher wrote: There are enough challenges with the internet in Africa to work through already. We shouldn't encourage more difficulties by endorsing strongarm tactics that prevent issues from being properly adjudicated in courts. One would think... There are many

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/1/21 00:56, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: Not to put too fine a point on this, but what human cost? There were exactly 3 employees that AFRINIC wasn’t able to pay in July, including the CEO (who is one of the major protagonists in creating this problem in the first place). I don’t know

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/31/21 22:55, Sabri Berisha wrote: I regret the true human cost that Mark pointed out, yet I am fascinated by the case and the arguments on both sides. The court will have their work cut out for them. The human cost has nothing to do with the wording of allocation language. That was j

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/31/21 22:37, Rubens Kuhl wrote: I can try helping with that: in underserved regions it's not unusual for network services for that population to be physically hosted out of the region. For instance, if you have a hosting service that only accepts South African rands and your language opt

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/31/21 22:28, Sabri Berisha wrote: It's easy to argue that CI is in full compliance with that since their assignment supports connectivity between users in Africa and their clients' services. In that case, only IP space used outside of Africa not advertised to the internet would be in vi

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Tom Beecher
100% the Litter Robot is amazing. ( Except for my older cat, she's pushing 19, had to build a ramp for her. ) But I also agree there are limits to what needs IoTing. I don't live in a house large enough that I can't go see if the box needs cleaning within about 20s. I also sure as hell don't need

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-09-01 Thread Tom Beecher
> > AFRINIC has received clearance of enough money to cover their normal > expenses > for August and September. As such, there shouldn’t be any problems with > salaries > or “human cost” in those months. Hopefully given that reprieve, cooler > heads at > AFRINIC can prevail and some form of settlem