Re: What are best practices for RPKI ROV in transit networks....

2021-10-29 Thread Ben Maddison via NANOG
Hi Steve, On 10/28, s...@iu.edu wrote: > Greetings, > > We seek input on best practices for implementing RPKI ROV in a transit > (partial transit) network. The Internet2 network provides partial > transit for many of the K-12 and higher education institutions in the > US. Our customer routes numb

Re: What are best practices for RPKI ROV in transit networks....

2021-10-29 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 01:20:33AM +0400, Musa Stephen Honlue wrote: > Personally I recommend dropping them invalids. 100% > However, you could set local preferences as follows: > - Valids routes get the highest local pref > - unknown routes get a medium local pref > - Invalids routes get the lo

Re: possible rsync validation dos vuln

2021-10-29 Thread Nick Hilliard
Randy Bush wrote on 29/10/2021 02:03: received this vuln notice four days before these children intend to disclose. so you can guess how inclined to embargo. The position doesn't seem to be compatible with e.g. https://www.first.org/global/sigs/vulnerability-coordination/multiparty/FIRST-Mul

PCH Peering Survey 2021

2021-10-29 Thread Bill Woodcock
Background: Five and ten years ago PCH conducted comprehensive global surveys characterizing Internet peering agreements. They are the only ones of their kind, and are relied upon by legislators and regulators throughout the world to understand the Internet interconnection landscape. Our write

Re: possible rsync validation dos vuln

2021-10-29 Thread Randy Bush
i would not be surprised if email to my previous addresses ...!uunet!m2xenix!randy ...!uunet!oresoft!randy bounced, making it difficult for these kiddies to reach me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsible_disclosure randy

Re: Need for historical prefix blacklist (`rogue' prefixes) information

2021-10-29 Thread Matthew Walster
Hi, On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 at 00:48, Amir Herzberg wrote: > Hi NANOGers, for our research on ROV (and ROV++, our extension, NDSS'21), > we need access to historical data of blacklisted prefixes (due to spam, > DDoS, other), as well as suspect-hijacks list (beyond BGPstream which we > already have).

Re: possible rsync validation dos vuln

2021-10-29 Thread Barry Greene
> On Oct 29, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > Because this didn't happen, we now get to look forward to a weekend of > elevated risk, followed by people upending their calendars to handle > un-coordinated upgrades on monday morning. That only happens if the team has the time to ge

Re: possible rsync validation dos vuln

2021-10-29 Thread Nick Hilliard
Barry Greene wrote on 29/10/2021 13:15: That only happens if the team has the time to get the fix into the code, tested, validated, regressed, and deployed. I would say this is a classic example of “ego” to publish overruling established principles. The University of Twente should explore requ

Re: Need for historical prefix blacklist (`rogue' prefixes) information

2021-10-29 Thread A Crisan
Hi Matthew, What you seem to have failed to understand is that most traffic hijacks on > the internet are not malicious in nature, they are "fat finger" incidents > where someone has accidentally announced something they did not intend to, > either because of faulty software (the infamous "BGP op

Re: possible rsync validation dos vuln

2021-10-29 Thread Nick Hilliard
Barry Greene wrote on 29/10/2021 13:15: "The NCSC will try to resolve the security problem that you have reported in a system within 60 days. Once the problem has been resolved, we will decide in consultation whether and how details will be published.” I would have expected you to council the

Re: PCH Peering Survey 2021

2021-10-29 Thread Denis Fondras
Le Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 01:47:37PM +0200, Bill Woodcock a écrit : > If you’re peering with an MLPA route-server, you’re welcome to include just > the route-server’s ASN, if that’s easiest, rather than trying to include each > of the peer ASNs on the other side of the route-server. Either way is fin

Re: possible rsync validation dos vuln

2021-10-29 Thread Randy Bush
> there's a public statement about this from NCSC-NL: >> https://www.ncsc.nl/actueel/nieuws/2021/oktober/29/aanstaande-bekendmaking-cvd-procedure-rpki blah blah blah bottom line. they gave first notice to devs 4 days before threatened disclosure. that they then asked to embargo was just adding

Re: PCH Peering Survey 2021

2021-10-29 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Oct 29, 2021, at 6:55 PM, Denis Fondras wrote: > Le Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 01:47:37PM +0200, Bill Woodcock a écrit : >> If you’re peering with an MLPA route-server, you’re welcome to include just >> the route-server’s ASN, if that’s easiest, rather than trying to include each >> of the peer A

RE: possible rsync validation dos vuln

2021-10-29 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
The link doesn't work. 404 https://www.ncsc.nl/actueel/nieuws/2021/oktober/29/aanstaande-bekendm What are the specs of that possible dos vuln? Is is reflection or amplification or something else? Thanks Jean

RE: possible rsync validation dos vuln

2021-10-29 Thread Collider
I looked on english.ncsc.nl's news section (it's the most recently published article) and it seems to be referencing OpenBSD's security page as the reason this "CVD" doesn't involve the developers and thus isn't really a CVD. The link is over linelen characters long and it may have gotten trunca

Re: possible rsync validation dos vuln

2021-10-29 Thread Niels Bakker
* nanog@nanog.org (Jean St-Laurent via NANOG) [Fri 29 Oct 2021, 19:57 CEST]: The link doesn't work. 404 https://www.ncsc.nl/actueel/nieuws/2021/oktober/29/aanstaande-bekendm | X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 The posted link works fine here but your MUA mangled it so you'll have to do some m

Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report

2021-10-29 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Global IPv4 Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to

Re: Need for historical prefix blacklist (`rogue' prefixes) information

2021-10-29 Thread Matthew Walster
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021, 15:55 A Crisan, wrote: > Hi Matthew, > I was reading the above exchange, and I do have a question linked to your > last affirmation. To give you some context, the last 2021 ENISA report seem > to suggest that internet traffic is "casually registered" by X actors to > apply po

Comcast? Layer2 / ELAN

2021-10-29 Thread Joe Carroll
Greetings Fellow Nanog'ers Are there any Comcast engineers in the group that could help to sort out a 10GB layer2 ELAN issue in Florida? We are short of cancelling this circuit that has been in for a couple of days. We cannot pass above 1GB on this circuit... 10GB SFPs on both ends, 10GB price,

RE: possible rsync validation dos vuln

2021-10-29 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
https://www.ncsc.nl/actueel/nieuws/2021/oktober/29/aanstaande-bekendmaking-cvd-procedure-rpki -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Niels Bakker Sent: October 29, 2021 2:01 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: possible rsync validation dos vuln * nanog@nanog.org (Jean St-Laurent via

Re: Comcast? Layer2 / ELAN

2021-10-29 Thread Livingood, Jason via NANOG
I’ll reply off-list in a sec From: NANOG on behalf of Joe Carroll Date: Friday, October 29, 2021 at 14:16 To: nanog list Subject: Comcast? Layer2 / ELAN Greetings Fellow Nanog'ers Are there any Comcast engineers in the group that could help to sort out a 10GB layer2 ELAN issue in Florida?

Re: Need for historical prefix blacklist (`rogue' prefixes) information

2021-10-29 Thread Amir Herzberg
(this is an answer to Matthew but also with a question to all NANOGers, see below, under `is this true?') Matthew, thanks for your feedback on our paper - always welcome - although the email I sent wasn't about ROV++ but on our need for historical data on blacklisted prefixes. (our use is not limi

Re: Comcast? Layer2 / ELAN

2021-10-29 Thread TJ Trout
I would request an on-site rfc test that should clear things up quickly On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 11:17 AM Joe Carroll wrote: > Greetings Fellow Nanog'ers > > Are there any Comcast engineers in the group that could help to sort out a > 10GB layer2 ELAN issue in Florida? > > We are short of cancell