Re: Russia to disconnect from global Internet

2022-03-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 11:49:54PM +0100, Bill Woodcock wrote a message of 62 lines which said: > This applies exclusively to Russian federal government networks, not > ISPs or telecom operators. It’s just trying to get them to document > and harmonize their practices isn perfectly reasonable

Re: Russia to disconnect from global Internet

2022-03-07 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Mar 7, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 11:49:54PM +0100, > Bill Woodcock wrote > a message of 62 lines which said: > >> This applies exclusively to Russian federal government networks, not >> ISPs or telecom operators. It’s just trying to get the

Re: Conflicts and fiber cuts

2022-03-07 Thread Laura Smith via NANOG
On Sunday, March 6th, 2022 at 23:40, Sean Donelan wrote: > Historically, the largest telecommunication outages have been due > to > operator error Yeah, tell me about it. In the very recent past there was a certain Tier 1 operator who decided to move a core router between X & Y within the sa

Re: Russia to disconnect from global Internet

2022-03-07 Thread Bjørn Mork
Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: > And yet noone says that the USA are disconnecting from the Internet. Exactly. They've never connected to it. Bjørn

Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia?

2022-03-07 Thread JeffP
Actually, try this: https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0628 JeffP On 3/4/22 23:59, Masataka Ohta wrote: Matthew Petach wrote: sanctions to prohib

Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia?

2022-03-07 Thread Nicole H.
Some are suggesting that the disconnect by Cogent is financially motivated. However, it could also be that given the quick rise in cyber warfare that they do not want to be caught in the crossfire and carrying and dealing with the loads of DDOS and pure hacking attempts going in both directions. Th

Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia?

2022-03-07 Thread Tom Beecher
> > However, it could also be that given the quick rise in cyber warfare that > they do not want to be caught in the crossfire and carrying and dealing > with the loads of DDOS and pure hacking attempts going in both directions. > The burden of dealing with this as well as payment issues and maybe

Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia?

2022-03-07 Thread Masataka Ohta
JeffP wrote: Actually, try this: https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0628 Are you saying "sanctioning numerous Russian elites and their family members" has something to do with NANOG? Masataka Ohta

Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia?

2022-03-07 Thread Masataka Ohta
Tom Beecher wrote: If providers start making their own determinations about what is and isn't 'ok', it's a road to massive segmentation and separation of the internet. That's what GAFA has been doing at the application layer, which is more effective than similar attempts at the networking laye

Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia?

2022-03-07 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
Yet another trash understanding from Jeff. Give it a break dude! -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > On Mar 7, 2022, at 09:07, Masataka Ohta > wrote: > > JeffP wrote: > >> Actually, try

Vodafone-UA

2022-03-07 Thread Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe
Can someone (anyone) from Vodafone Ukraine contact me off-list about an urgent national security matter. Thanks. -LB Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO b...@6by7.net "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the wor

Re: Vodafone-UA

2022-03-07 Thread Laura Smith via NANOG
Putting the weirdness of your message aside for a moment ... Its bad enough trying to get hold of anyone remotely competent at a Western EU division of Vodafone at the best of times.  Therefore, I suspect the chances of anyone at Vodafone Ukraine being bothered to reply to some random person th

Re: Russia to disconnect from global Internet

2022-03-07 Thread Hank Nussbacher
Bill Woodcock wrote: > This applies exclusively to Russian federal government networks, not ISPs or telecom operators. https://twitter.com/krisnova/status/1500590779047170048?s=12 says otherwise. -Hank

Re: Russia to disconnect from global Internet

2022-03-07 Thread Bill Woodcock
No, that was the original source of the disinformation. I guess she didn’t actually read it, or didn’t understand it, and in any case, failed to fact-check. Ask Russian network operators or government IT folks, or a lawyer… there’s no ambiguity here. -Bill > On Mar 7, 2

Re: Russia to disconnect from global Internet

2022-03-07 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 7 Mar 2022, Hank Nussbacher wrote: says otherwise. Ministry of Digital Development of the Russian Federation denied plans to disconnect Russia from the Internet https://www.interfax.ru/russia/826788 [...google translate...] Moscow. March 7th. INTERFAX.RU - The Ministry of Digital

Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia?

2022-03-07 Thread JeffP
The key paragraph, to which I direct your attention, is located at the bottom of the press release, and may contribute to the calculations that Cogent and other companies, with the advice of their lawyers, not some idiot without a law degree like me, advis

Re: Russia to disconnect from global Internet

2022-03-07 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Mar 7, 2022, at 11:52 , Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > Bill Woodcock wrote: > > > > This applies exclusively to Russian federal government networks, not ISPs > > or telecom operators. > > > https://twitter.com/krisnova/status/1500590779047170048?s=12 > > says otherwise. And then contra

Re: Cogent cutting links to Russia?

2022-03-07 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Mar 7, 2022, at 07:07 , Masataka Ohta > wrote: > > JeffP wrote: > >> Actually, try this: >> https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0628 > > Are you saying "sanctioning numerous Russian elites and their > family members" has something to do with NANOG? > >

Reminder to Submit Presentations for NANOG 85

2022-03-07 Thread Cat Gurinsky
NANOG Community, The NANOG Program Committee (PC) would like to remind you that we are accepting proposals for in-person or remote presentations at all sessions of NANOG 85, a hybrid meeting, taking place in Montréal, QC, Canada on June 6th-8th, 2022. Below is a summary of key details and dates f

Susan Harris

2022-03-07 Thread John Kristoff
Friends, I regret to relay this news. So many people here knew and will remember Susan. She had been a key, and major figure in the history of NANOG as I'm sure many of you can reflect on with numerous memories of her:

Re: Susan Harris

2022-03-07 Thread Rabbi Rob Thomas
Thank you for letting us know, John. So sad! I remember her being very welcoming when I first attended NANOG, and she gave so much of herself to the NANOG community. Zichrona livracha, her memory is for blessing. > On Mar 7, 2022, at 6:51 PM, John Kristoff wrote: > > Friends, > > I regret

off-topic: net-sec presentations (routing, DNS, and DoS)

2022-03-07 Thread Amir Herzberg
Hi NANOGers, I've updated my DoS presentation - will begin teaching this topic tomorrow. It's in my website, together with the other network-security presentations I gave this term, mainly DNS and routing security; there are few more topics I'll cover this term, to be added soon. And, of course, th

SATCOM terminals under attack in Europe

2022-03-07 Thread Hank Nussbacher
https://www.reversemode.com/2022/03/satcom-terminals-under-attack-in-europe.html -Hank