Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds

2023-12-02 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 8:35 PM wrote: > Or has no engineer capable of configuring it, or support staff trained to > handle the issues that will come up. Like I said: lazy. Training to deploy and support a minimalist 6rd deployment where customers who want it can optionally use it is not a challe

Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds

2023-12-02 Thread Dave Taht
On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 2:30 AM Stephen Satchell wrote: > > On 12/1/23 5:27 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > It would be better to keep the government out of it altogether, but that > > has little chance of happening. > > > > I agree. But I do have a question: is there a Best Practices RFC for > setti

Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds

2023-12-02 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 6:21 PM Tom Samplonius wrote: > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit > > > > Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC's > > NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the > >

Re: Outside plant - prewire customer demarc preference

2023-12-02 Thread Brandon Martin
On 11/30/23 20:55, o...@delong.com wrote: For the most part out here, if it’s going behind sheetrock, contractors/electricians just run Romex or whatever in bare stud holes without any form of conduit. The nice thing about ENT (or other corrugated plastic conduit) from a residential electrici

Re: Outside plant - prewire customer demarc preference

2023-12-02 Thread Brandon Martin
On 12/1/23 05:18, Josh Luthman wrote: Keep in mind new construction versus having to get around drywall. Rigid conduit is great if you can get it. If you can, by all means go for it! However, if the outside utility aggregation point is not pretty much on the other side of the wall from the

Re: Outside plant - prewire customer demarc preference

2023-12-02 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 12/2/23 11:59, Brandon Martin wrote: On 12/1/23 05:18, Josh Luthman wrote: Keep in mind new construction versus having to get around drywall. Rigid conduit is great if you can get it.  If you can, by all means go for it! Rigid conduit is essentially galvanized plumbing pipe. Very rare in

Re: Outside plant - prewire customer demarc preference

2023-12-02 Thread Brandon Martin
On 12/2/23 15:09, Jay Hennigan wrote: Rigid conduit is essentially galvanized plumbing pipe. Very rare in new construction other than for overhead electrical service entrance. It's extremely heavy and difficult to work with. As its name suggests, it's quite rigid. Not easily bent or cut and nee

Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds

2023-12-02 Thread Rubens Kuhl
What I've found missing were references to packet loss impact on performance. It seems to assume cable/fiber environments with little to no packet loss, while Wi-Fi and 3G/4G/5G are not like that. Rubens On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 7:23 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > Over here: > > https://docs.google.com

Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds

2023-12-02 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 5:04 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote: > What I've found missing were references to packet loss impact on > performance. It seems to assume cable/fiber environments with little > to no packet loss, while Wi-Fi and 3G/4G/5G are not like that. Wireless environments tend to do L2 retrans