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RE: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers

At least they didn't label it a fuel surcharge. =) Frank -Original Message- From: Patrick Giagnocavo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:47 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Today I looked at my most recent bil

RE: tacid.org

Nick: Leaving a domain and IP fallow for such a long time will end up looking like my garden did this year when I did the same thing -- overrun with weeds. Sending a blanket e-mail to NANOG is not going to get the attention of those who manage the e-mail flow (unless you domain belonged to a Fort

RE: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs

You do have a choice if you're not concerned about the deliverability of your e-mail. Remember, the Internet remains a group of service providers/organizations/subscribers that voluntarily work together and can choose what goes in or out. And so if they decide not to receive traffic from you, for

RE: Mail Server best practices - was: Pandora's Box of new TLDs

You mean, you don't employ *any* spam mitigation techniques besides sorting? Because if you do anything, even as basic as RBLs, you're not being consistent with your stance. Frank -Original Message- From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:08 PM T

RE: the business model, was what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens

That's the phrase I was thinking of -- "sunrise period". All of you would get first dibs -- I don't have a good idea how it would actually be doled out or purchased. But at least you three would be first in the ring, before speculator xyz had a chance. Frank -Original Message- From: Joh

RE: Mail Server best practices - was: Pandora's Box of new TLDs

Comments in-line. -Original Message- From: Phil Regnauld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Mail Server best practices - was: Pandora's Box of new TLDs [EMAIL PROTECTED] (michael.dillon) writes: > > > htt

RE: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

One way to provide protection is too allow those who have the domain portion of any domain.(com|net|org|...) to have first dibs for the domain of any new gTLD. i.e. if nanog.org, nanog.com, nanog.net, etc. would have first dibs on nanog.thisisgreatstuff. Or is that too simplistic and fraught with

RE: Possible explanations for a large hop in latency

Just to close this issue on the list: a (top) engineer from AT&T contacted me offline and helped us out. Turns out that 12.88.71.13 is located in Kansas City and tbr1.sl9mo.ip.att.net (12.122.112.22) is in St. Louis. AT&T has two L1 connections to that site for redundancy, but traffic was flowi

RE: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs

...which is why it might be a strategy to blacklist all new TLDs (if this proposal gets through) and whitelist just .com, .net, etc. Frank -Original Message- From: Rich Kulawiec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:50 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ICANN opens

RE: Possible explanations for a large hop in latency

Just google "tbr1.sl9mo.ip.att.net" and it's clear that high latency through that point has occurred before. And guess what kind of customer complained to me about the latency? A gamer. Frank -Original Message----- From: Frank Bulk - iNAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Th

RE: Possible explanations for a large hop in latency

cy. Personally, I thought it was rather strange for them to do that. And, I've never seen that occur on any other network. Perhaps someone from ATT would like to chime in. --John Frank Bulk - iNAME wrote: Did that satisfy you? I guess with MPLS they could tag the traffic and send it aroun

RE: Possible explanations for a large hop in latency

ncy. Personally, I thought it was rather strange for them to do that. And, I've never seen that occur on any other network. Perhaps someone from ATT would like to chime in. --John Frank Bulk - iNAME wrote: > Did that satisfy you? I guess with MPLS they could tag the traffic and send &g

RE: Possible explanations for a large hop in latency

Did that satisfy you? I guess with MPLS they could tag the traffic and send it around the country twice and I wouldn't see it at L3. Frank -Original Message- From: John T. Yocum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog list Subject:

RE: easy way to scan for issues with path mtu discovery?

Look at mturoute: http://www.elifulkerson.com/projects/mturoute.php Frank -Original Message- From: Darden, Patrick S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:28 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: easy way to scan for issues with path mtu discovery? Hi all, Does anyone kno

RE: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)]

For the reason you stated, "much to the chagrin of receivers". Easier to sell a service to customers downstream if it's being done in the network, without MX changing. Frank -Original Message- From: Ken Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:38 AM To: [EMAIL PR

RE: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)]

ubject: Re: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Frank Bulk - iNAME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken: > > Thanks for the info, but that still requires the domai

RE: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)]

Right, port 587 would require SMTP authentication. I'm no routing expert, but can tens of thousands of /32s be excluded using BGP communities? I don't know if spammers are going to be using TLS in a big way soon, though I'll admit I've not measured. As long TLS usage is low, examining TCP port

RE: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)]

PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 5:23 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip addressreputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)] > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Frank Bulk - iNAME iname.com> wrote: > > Is th

Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)]

When I hear "cloud services" I think "in the network" even though it appears all these cloud services perform their work at a data center as an outsourced service. Is there a vendor that makes a product that perform spam/malware filtering literally in the network, i.e. as a service provider, can I

RE: SMTP no-such-user issues

riginal Message- From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SMTP no-such-user issues Frank Bulk - iNAME wrote: > Please share a packet capture of a working and not working SMTP exchange. In order to p

RE: SMTP no-such-user issues

Please share a packet capture of a working and not working SMTP exchange. Frank -Original Message- From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:14 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SMTP no-such-user issues Steve Bertrand wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We ar

RE: [NANOG] Introducing latency for testing?

It's not free, but at a recent trade show I did see what appeared to be an affordable unit from Apposite Technologies (apposite-tech.com). And there's always PacketStorm. Frank -Original Message- From: Mike Lyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:13 PM To: NANOG Subj

TINet stretches out in North America

IIRC, they also provide IPv6, too. Good to see more players. == http://www.telegeography.com/cu/article.php?article_id=23487&email=html TINet stretches out in North America The wholesale IP/MPLS global carrier Tiscali International Network (TINet) has added new points of presence (Po

RE: Power/temperature monitoring

This is basically the AKCP product, repackaged. =) Frank -Original Message- From: Kyle Duren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:31 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Power/temperature monitoring We have had great luck, with Ravica Bitsight: http://ravica.com/prod

RE: Power/temperature monitoring

Thanks. The TemPager doesn't appear to support identifying AC power failure, but that's in the Room Alert 7. The price point and features do seem reasonable. Frank From: Josh Fiske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; nanog@nanog.org Sub

Re: [NANOG] would ip6 help us safeing energy ?

Dale: ESPN360 used to be something that internet subscribers paid for themselves, but now it's something that ISPs (most interesting to those who are also video providers) can offer. If you google around you can find a pretty good Wikipedia page on ESPN360. I looked into this for our operations

Re: [Nanog] ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010

I've found it interesting that those who do Internet TV (re)define HD in a way that no one would consider HD anymore except the provider. =) In the news recently has been some complaints about Comcast's HD TV. Comcast has been (selectively) fitting 3 MPEG-2 HD streams in a 6 MHz carrier (38 Mbps =