Re: Beware: a very bad precedent set

How does this stuff ever make it to court??? Why is it an ISP is responsible for policing it's customers? I'm constantly getting called up from scammers trying to offering me bogus warranty insurance for cars I don't own...does that mean I can sue Verizon because they are letting scammers use t

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

Yeah I have to agree...that article was poorly written and clearly the author has little understanding of physics. "Velocity" has absolutely nothing to do with Wiedemann-Franz law, we are talking resistance and that determines current through the wire; not how fast the electrons are flowing throug

Re: IPv6 internet broken, Verizon route prefix length policy

On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 09:40 +1100, Mark Andrews wrote: > > Verizon's policy has been related to me that they will not accept > or > > propogate any IPv6 route advertisements with prefix lengths longer > than > > /32. Full stop. So that even includes those of us that have /48 > PI > > space fr

Re: DMCA takedowns of networks

BS to say the least...first the US Chamber of Commerce is not a government organization. And even if there were what right does anyone have to tread on Freedom of Speech?!? Was there a court order? I'd really be interested in know what strong arm tactic they used with HE. William Allen Simps

Re: Simple Change Management Tracking

We use [1]http://www.troubleticketexpress.com/ to do just that. While it leans more towards being a customer support system, we've had no problem using it as our internal provisioning/network maintenance system too. Basic, simple and ties into a SQL db. Bret Paul Stewart wrote:

Re: Speed Testing and Throughput testing

True, we usually find Linux based machines work better running IPerf then Windows (at least out of the box) because of the TCP window sizewell Windows XP at least, don't know about Vista or 7. Jason Biel wrote: Please take note with using iperf that you'll want to make sure the app

Re: Transit from Cogent - thoughts?

Cogent has been brought up several times over the last year. I suggest searching http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/nanog/users/ Otherwise you've just reopened a can of worms again. On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 15:04 +, a...@baklawasecrets.com wrote: > > Contemplating using Cogent Communic

Re: Policy News

Yeah...because when the economy is sucking wind why not raise fees to the consumer?!?! Want to get broadband out to people, then deal with duopolies that many of the regions in the country have...such as Verizon & Comcast! They are the main barriers that cause grief in deployment, giving a chance

Re: Password repository

Don't recall if it was mention but we use a nice little app called MyPMS http://lvoware.com/. Put it on an internal system and then people have to access via a VPN connection to browse into it. That way if a person is no longer with the company, then their VPN has been turned off and they don't hav

Re: earthlink sorbs

Doesn't really say much, but blacklisted would certainly cause those problems rather then just having server problems http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Earthlink-Suffers-From-Major-Email-Outage-105607 On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 18:29 +, chaim.rie...@gmail.com wrote: > Same here > > Many bounce

Re: Ethernet over DS3 Converters

Long time ago I assited on consultation for this device. Probably provide what you are looking for: http://www.zhone.com/products/ETHX-2200-DS3/ On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 07:31 -0500, Jason Rowley wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Brad Fleming > wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > My company is s

Re: news from Google

For sure...everyone remembers the Bill Gates Borg picture, but at this rate, Google will soon become the new poster child for that picture (or something comparable). Bret On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 10:48 -0800, Seth Mattinen wrote: > No kiddng. I must be the only one who is getting tired of seein

Re: news from Google

Brielle Bruns wrote: Why is it that people start cracking out at the thought of Google offering a free service that people might have an actual use for and that is completely optional and used by choice? It's a free service people! No different then Hotmail, or Yahoo Mail, or Gmail, AOL Inst

Re: SPF Configurations

If the customer insist on using their domain, then you would have to have the customer setup an SPF record within their domain that points to your email server IP blocks. I would just tell your customer that if they insist of using their FROM domain, to help get past someone's spamming system t

Re: Linux shaping packet loss

Won't say I'm an expert with TC, but anytime I see packet loss on an interface I always check the interface itself...10% packet loss is pretty much what you would get if there was a duplex problem. I always try to hard set my interfaces on both the Linux machines and Switches. Bret Chris wro

Re: news from Google

Scott Howard wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: CSR isnt $0 ROI. Unless they're doing it wrong. I said essentially. If you think they're making even 1% of $20M, one of us confused. I'll admit I do not do marketing, so maybe it's me. The tax wr

Re: qwest outage no notice

This is one reason why companies should use twitter...great for those impromptu emergency messages. Our electrical utility company uses twitter and I have to admit that it's nice to know what is going on ahead of time even if it is a short message! On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:31 -0700, Chris De Youn

Re: SSH brute force China and Linux: best practices

denyhost is one of my favorite apps. http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ James Hess wrote: When you really want to be safe -- even one illicit access attempt may be enough to gain access.fail2ban or ssh rate limiting do not stop distributed brute force attacks. The best action depends on a

Re: Fiber Cut in CA?

Good point...so if the cut is in the middle of nowhere without easy access...then how the hell did it get cut? Malicious? Matt Simmons wrote: And in an open desert, back hoes can smell fiber from miles away. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Bill Stewart [1] wrote: On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at

Re: Recommendations for router with routed copper gig-e ports?

Chuck Anderson wrote: On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 02:41:51PM -0600, Lorell Hathcock wrote: 1 - AP network (need suggestion for cost effective gig-e switch) 2 to 4 - back haul ports 1 - internet port (on one out of every 4 towers or so) (and most likely fiber instead of copper) Does anyone h

Re: ISP best practices

While BGP can become a rather complex protocol to implement as a network grows, basic BGP peering between two providers isn't really that complex...probably talking 10 config lines at most (excluding bogon/filtering). The first thing you want to make sure is that you're upstream providers are imple

Re: Cogent input

I hate when these questions get asked, because as the saying goes..."a person happy with a service will only tell one other person, but a person unhappy with a service with tell ten other people". So I think a lot of times you'll get skewed responses...but with that said, we've been using Cogent n

Re: Cogent input

I'm skeptical as to where this info came from since this seems nothing more then nay-say? if people are going to make grandiose statements then they should justify them with reputable evidence. I would be extremely surprised if Cogent engineering isn't working on a IPv6 plan or doesn't have one al

Re: Cogent input

a commercial necessity. We have tested IPv6 and we have our plan > for rolling it out, but there are no commercial drivers to spend money > to upgrade a network to IPv6 for no real return on investment." > > This came rom a contact at Cogent (not sure of the role, probably sales

Re: Cogent input

You email is faster them mine ;) On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 11:09 -0400, Stephen Kratzer wrote: > Perhaps you missed my amendment: > > Should have said "And, they have no plans to deploy IPv6 in the immediate > future." > > :) > > On Thursday 11 June 2009

Re: spamhaus drop list

John Levine wrote: Not that I've ever seen. Nobody else has the breadth of data that Spamhaus does. I've been using it for ages and based on zero complaints, it's never blocked anything that any of my users wanted. R's, John I have to agree with this...I'm somewhat surprised to see some of

RE: Wireless bridge

On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 09:34 -0700, John van Oppen wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Tim Huffman [mailto:t...@bobbroadband.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:27 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: RE: Wireless bridge > > > The line of sight is all clear, no trees. Only one building

Re: Wireless bridge

Justin Sharp wrote: I didn't read through all of the replies to see if this was suggested, apologies if it was. http://www.solectek.com/products.php?prod=sw7k&page=feat I implemented a PTP link at about 3 miles using these Solectek radios. I get 40Mbps consistently with TCP traffic and ~100Mb

Re: AT&T and having two BGP peers

Cancel the circuit...I know most of the providers I've worked with have a 90 satisfaction guarantee. Chances are if you cancel the circuit they will mysteriously find a way to work with you. Warren Bailey wrote: Threaten to twitter about it. Worked for the guy on myth busters.. ;) - Origi

Re: Retalitory DDoS

Not an official club, but the unofficial club is full of members including myself unfortunately🙁...little you can do except consider DDoS mitigation service if it continues. It is a criminal activity, so you can report the attack to the FBI...they can't do much to be honest, but at the very lea

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

Texas doesn't generally experience this type of extreme cold. The power grids are being overload due to people using their electric heat or electric portable heaters. From: NANOG on behalf of Rod Beck Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:09 AM To: Robert Jacobs

Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?

Whoa...there is clairvoyance for you...that article is from yesterday...wonder if the author provides stock tips??? Facebook down...where is the "Like" button? On 9/23/2010 3:46 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/09/22/facebook-goes-down-for-some-users/

Re: Software-based Border Router

We use a mix of software and hardware based routers, have found little difference between the two platforms in terms of performance and stability. Our software base routers are serving a couple 100Mbps upstream links running on some HP Proliants with dual PS and dual HD's that we picked up on e

Re: AT&T Dry Pairs?

If the buildings are a 100ft apart, can't you just go with a wireless connection? Speeds would probably be better and no monthly fee! On 09/30/2010 06:08 PM, Robert Johnson wrote: If your sales contact don't know what an alarm circuit is, go find AT&T's tariff filed with your state's PUC. It wi

Re: ARIN IP/AS Assignment

We just had to get another new block, took about 5 days. On 10/02/2010 03:17 AM, Imran Moin wrote: Hello All, I was wondering how long it is taking ARIN these days to assign new IP block and AS Number. We are a new startup and looking to build our network over the next few months. Thanks, Imra

Re: Level3 filter updates

I was told every 48 hours when I recently dealt with Level3 on a similar thing about a month ago. On 10/05/2010 12:50 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: Normally it's done every night (overnight)... that's been our experience... Paul -Original Message- From: Florin Veres [mailto:flo...@futurefr

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

I have to agree on this as well. I can understand when a service provider is having problems and people questioning it since that can affect many of us who depend on backbone connections, but sites like facebook and twitter being down should not be posted here but on the "sitesemployeeswastetim

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

On 10/06/2010 06:08 PM, Tammy A. Wisdom wrote: This thread proves too me yet again that nanog is the internets equivalent of a giant panty raid. This isn't the outages list& I am rather annoyed that we must discuss junk social media sites such as facebook. Just because you are panicing does

Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

On 10/12/2010 12:46 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: I kinda-sortta feel like many others who have posted here. This is a mail thing, not netops. Grow a pair and post under your own name. Is it even on-topic for NANOG? Etc. I even started typing a message to the effect of: "even though I don

Re: Optical Wireless

RF in general or you don't want to use wi-fi which is understandable? For our telcom back-haul needs which needs to meet carrier class grade we have found Ceregon, Redline, and Dragonwave to work flawlessly. Redline and Dragon are PoE, Ceregon use coax. Unfortunately we don't use laser because

Re: NTP Server

On 10/24/2010 12:29 PM, Brandon Kim wrote: I guess what I'm trying to understand is, is having your own NTP server just a luxury? I personally would like to have my own, I just need to pitch its advantages to my company. Unless everyone here on the NANOG group clearly spells it out to me that

Re: Auditing a network to add Voice

Iperf can be used to measure jitter and delay as well as simulate a quasi VoIP call. You can also use mtr under Linux which provides jitter and delay measurements from one point to another point. A g.729 call (lower quality) takes about ~40kbps and a g.711 (high quality) used about ~100Kbps of

Re: Auditing a network to add Voice

Most VoIP solutions are RTP whether internal or via SIP solution from a service provider. On 11/22/2010 10:04 AM, Kasper Adel wrote: Sorry i forgot to add more detail. We are not looking for IP Telephony type of voice but RTP from Media Gateways. Cheers, Kim On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:59 PM,

Re: Auditing a network to add Voice

e). I am not sue if measuring what they have or generating traffic and measuring it is the same thing. what do u think? thanks, Kim On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Bret Clark <mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com>> wrote: Iperf can be used to measure jitter and delay as well as simulate

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions

On 11/29/2010 07:55 PM, Ren Provo wrote: http://blog.comcast.com/2010/11/comcast-comments-on-level-3.html On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: Okay's let's say L3 gives in to Comcast and pays them. L3 then turns around and charges us (providers) more to cover the additiona

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions

On 11/30/2010 07:59 AM, Sean Donelan wrote: Or why don't you build a network to places that Comcast peers at; and bypass L3 completely and negotiate a peering relationship directly with Comcast? We tried Comcast wouldn't peer with us because they considered us a compeititor. Seriously thi

Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks

On 12/04/2010 06:03 PM, Ken Gilmour wrote: Now Sarah Palin is suggesting Wikileaks are terrorists and should be taken offline with technical capabilities http://www.golem.de/1012/79848.html or for anyone who can't speak German: http://translate.google.ie/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golem.de%

Re: BGP multihoming question.

On 12/10/2010 10:01 AM, Dylan Ebner wrote: 3. You cannot trust the second isp to advertise the SWIP block correctly if they are not a tier 1. Even though they may advertise it for you to their upstream, they don't always have the appropriate procedures in place to get the LOAs to the upstream

Re: Facebook issue

On 12/16/2010 06:07 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:34:38 -0800 (PST) "andrew.wallace" wrote: Anyone having issue with Facebook? Always have but that's just me. Comcast must have planned this so that we would flood the list with useless Facebook messages rath

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

On 12/20/2010 06:55 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: What no one has mentioned thus far is that CLECs really are able to install their own facilities to homes and businesses if they decide that is a good way to invest their finite resources. Yes and no, we tried that way back when but found out that the

Re: Experiences with Comcast Ethernet

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Dylan Ebner wrote: My company has about 2 dozen Comcast business cable accounts at satellite offices around the Midwest. We are looking at adding an additional ISP to the mix and we are thinking of purchasing an Ethernet circuit from Comcast in an attempt to i

Re: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real life experiences?

On 12/27/2013 05:59 AM, Martin Hotze wrote: On 27/12/2013, at 10:13 pm, Martin Hotze wrote: Thanks, estimated traffic levels are at about half a gig, but at least 50 megs of UDP (VoIP) in both directions. one thing is that I haven't found a solution for redundant power supply. Buy 2 :) on

Re: BGPMON Alert Questions

They are advertising one of /22 right now as well, Bret On 04/02/2014 04:21 PM, Bryan Tong wrote: They have advertised all of ours now. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Bob Evans wrote: Yes, I too have alerts for some of our prefixes from the same offending origin 4761 On Wednesday April 2

Re: why haven't ethernet connectors changed?

Sort of like saying why haven't we changed from RJ-48's for phones...old habits die hard I guess! For the most part the RJ-45 connector is pretty sturdy...remember those silly dongle cables that were used for pc-card Ethernet adapters in laptops...those things would last about a month before dy

Re: Cheap Juniper Gear for Lab

On 04/10/2012 12:31 AM, Steven King wrote: Hello All, I am tasked with replacing an old linux router setup with Juniper gear in the near future. Though I am a Cisco guy myself. Does anyone know of any older cheap Juniper gear I might find on Ebay so that I may build a home lab without going bro

Re: job screening question

On 07/10/2012 03:32 AM, goe...@anime.net wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, Jeroen van Aart wrote: William Herrin wrote: This is, incidentally, is a detail I'd love for one of the candidates to offer in response to that question. Bonus points if you discuss MSS clamping and RFC 4821. The less precise

IPSec Problems

Anyone seeing their customers having problems with IPSec tunnels? Its a strange problem where the customer can ping the other end, but are having trouble keeping the IPSec tunnels active. I was able to preference some of our customer routes out of another BGP edge router which solved their prob

Re: ouch..

On 09/14/2011 07:58 AM, Brian Raaen wrote: Nice, I didn't see that. Then I guess whoever set up this site was a shill for Cisco, I just love how instead of focusing on developing better products, that they are more about marketing now. --- Brian Raaen Network Architect Cisco has always been

Re: Issue with Sprint Wireless

Every cell tower is different, every region is different, good performance in one region on one carrier, maybe the exact opposite in another region on that same carrier. That's quite a bit of data (assuming 1-2mbps...not sure what "digit megs" are) you're trying push through a cell network espe

Re: consumer DSL problems

On 11/01/2011 05:03 AM, Mike Reed wrote: Is there a common policy on rendering vendor-supplied CPEs unusable? Yes if they are old. As a network operator to residential users, would you notify any potentially affected users before making such a change? Any responsible provider would make sure t

Re: BGP noob needs monitoring advice

Is http://cyclops.cs.ucla.edu/ still working? I don't seem to received emails from them anymore when we stop announcing to one of our upstream providers. On the other hand http://bgpmon.net/ does send me emails when an announcement disappears from an upstream, although it's usually a day later.

Re: Speed Test Results

Couldn't agree more, it's unfortunate that so many users take them as gospel! On 12/23/2011 04:23 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: They are completely unreliable and not to be trusted except for an occasional general indication of speed.

Re: So... my colo was just bought.

On 01/10/2012 12:31 PM, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote: Expect all the local guys you dealt with to be gone in 6 months. --Patrick It's unfortunate just how true this will be. Bret

Re: So... my colo was just bought.

On 01/11/2012 04:38 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: And for the record, I've been quite happy with E-Sol; as long as Knology plays no games with the staff, I don't expect any problems. Cheers, -- jra It's extremely important you let the right people in Knology know that. Bret

Re: Redundant BGP for lower cost

OPSF (in this scenario) is easier to set up then BGP...but check out http://www.openmaniak.com/quagga.php. On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 10:46 -0600, Alex Thurlow wrote: > I have to say that this looks like a nice solution to me, and I've > definitely had many people point me to OSPF. One problem is th

Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool

Joe Greco wrote: I've gotten strange stuff each time I've tried their tests. I particularly like the factor of 10 difference in upload speeds. ... JG Yeah...these test are algorithm based and rarely accurate! On our 100Mbps Internet connection (which I know handles 100Mbps) best I could g

Re: "Is TDM going the way of dial-up?"

Steve Meuse wrote: I'm wondering if others are seeing the same behavior, if it's market-dependant, or if I'm just imagining things. I'm working on building new infrastructure and my current thoughts are to minimize my TDM footprint. It would be useful to get a better feel if this is an overal

Re: Wireless bridge

Peter Boone wrote: I purchased 2x Ubiquity Bullet2's (2.4 GHz) and utilized our existing antennas. It has been working extremely well, pushing a stable 54 Mbps over the link without issue. Signal strength is consistently -40 dBm +/- 2 dBm, from about -80 dBm before! Total cost included 2x Bull

Re: Starting up a WiMAX ISP

John Levine wrote: package rate of $66. They offer 3MB DSL all over their service area, even those long long rural runs. You think you can compete with that? Of course what they offer over those "long long rural runs" and what they can actually provide are two different things. DSL perfor

Re: Edu versus Speakeasy Speedtest

All the new OS's (IE Windows7) automatically adjust TCP window size. Personally I've never found those website speed test to be that accurate on fast connections (over 15Mbps full duplex). The only way to really confirm bandwidth is by running IPERF. Robert Glover wrote: Adjust your TCP wi

Re: Edu versus Speakeasy Speedtest

Jeff wrote: The problem is the Faculty^Wusers are smart, but not experienced in networking, so they buy into the marketing and eye candy of the speed dials on the Speakeasy and assorted speed testing tool sites. Not just them, we are constantly dealing with our new HS users who go to those s

Re: MikroTik strikes again ?

Uhmokay...but why does anyone prepend their ASN that much? Are you saying the Mikrotik did that on purpose? Adrian M wrote: MikroTik strikes again ? %BGP-6-ASPATH: Long AS path ... 39412 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 3

Re: MikroTik strikes again ?

Tim Warnock wrote: Adrian M wrote: MikroTik strikes again ? %BGP-6-ASPATH: Long AS path ... 39412 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 39625 From: Bret Clark [mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com] Sent: Monday, 3 May 2010 8:26 PM To

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

On 05/21/2010 08:23 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: I will refrain from making any smart-ass comments about Mikrotik and BGP, but no: there is no reason whatever that you can't take your internet feeds from different locations, so long as you have a good quality interior network link between those two l

Re: thoughts?

Not any different then when Bob Metcalf predicted the Internet would melt down in the late 1990's and looked like a fool when it never happened! Even though I don't disagree IP4 address are rapidly getting used up, most of us on this list have the "know how" and tenacity to work through current

Re: pls help about mtu setting

google (or any search engine) is your friend. http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=mtu+1492+dsl On 06/17/2010 08:19 AM, Deric Kwok wrote: Hi My DSL company asks me to set the modem 146 2 and my

Re: Future of WiMax

On 06/17/2010 09:46 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: Lots of my clients (Wireless ISPs) have looked into deploying it, however the costs are well over 20 times the cost of a unlicensed system per access point. Yeah...that is really the crux of the problem. Every WISP I know would switch over in a h

Re: Please remove me from all mailing lists !!!

On 07/02/2010 08:28 AM, William Hamilton wrote: On 02/07/2010 13:20, Marshall Eubanks wrote: At the very bottom of each message, you will see https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog If you go there, you can unsubscribe. Regards Marshall Was it really necessary to quote t

Re: Rate Limiting on Cisco Router

Agree...when you rate limit verse shaping you can actually cause more traffic because the packets need to be retransmitted to deal with those that got dropped. On 07/08/2010 06:43 PM, Murphy, Jay, DOH wrote: traffic-shape rate 7500 9000 9000 1000 for example. Your rate limit will

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

On 08/14/2010 11:27 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: I was at a trade show several months back. I watched a series of people walk up to a vendor and each, in turn, asked about IPv6 support. The vendor told each, in turn, "You're the only one asking for it." I walked up to the vendor and took my turn being

Re: AT&T routing problems towards www.worldspan.com?

That host is not working for us either, but looks more like a host problem rather then BGP problem. I have no problem getting to other IP's in that range like 216.113.132.21 which is probably it's default gateway. On 08/30/2010 05:22 AM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote: We have problems reaching ww

Re: Cogent issues

We've been noticing high latency for some time with Verizon (UUNET) connections at least through the NY area. On 09/08/2010 10:34 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Anyone notice any issues with Cogent? Internet Health Report showing some high latency to Verizon and a couple of other carriers.

Re: BGP Failover Question

On 02/22/2011 12:23 PM, Hammer wrote: As Max stated, you can set triggers based on thresholds that are monitered via multiple methods in Cisco IOS. That way you could force the route down dynamically. There's always a risk when letting the machines do the thinking but this would help in situation

Re: What vexes VoIP users?

On 02/28/2011 01:17 PM, Leigh Porter wrote: VoIP at the last mile is just too niche at the moment. It's for people on this list, not my mother. -- Leigh Baloney...if that was the case, then all these ILEC's wouldn't be whining about POT's lines decreasing exponentially year over year!

Re: Nortel, in bankruptcy, sells IPv4 address block for $7.5 million

Why would Microsoft need this many IP's? I could see the benefiting service providers much more. On 03/24/2011 09:27 AM, Tony Finch wrote: Jay Nakamura wrote: 666,624 is kind of odd number, isn't it? That comes out to a /13,/15,/19,/21 and a /22. > From the court documents I gather that it

Re: Address Assignment Question

On 06/20/2011 08:13 AM, Steve Richardson wrote: What I'd like to know is whether there is a legitimate use for so many addresses in discontiguous networks besides spam? I am trying my best to give them the benefit of the doubt here, because they do work directly with Spamhaus to not be listed (I