On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is the right to rid
yourself of criminals and despots. A fundamental right for citizens to
have
firearms does *not* automatically follow. Yes, despots usually need to be
Once law enforcement is effective enough to prevent the average
criminal from having access to firearms, then the law-abiding population can
be compelled to disarm.
That day is coming through US force as Operation Gun Runner from the
ATF allowed Mexican drug cartel straw purchasers to come in,
...@humancapitaldev.com
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:34 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a human
right
On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is the right to
rid
yourself of criminals
in the first place.
-Nick Olsen
From: Daniel Seagraves dseag...@humancapitaldev.com
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:34 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a human
right
On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, valdis.kletni
, June 06, 2011 11:38 AM
To: Daniel Seagraves; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a human right
Don't leave the house without my Glock 23 on my side. Truck always has a
loaded 12ga in it. In the house, I've got a handful of pistols and my
SR-556 (AR-15
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Joshua-Lee-Campbell-Server-Shoot-Gun-alcohol,11171.html
Just don't end up like this guy. He's a personal hero of mine. We've
all wanted to do this before but he had the liquid courage to do it
and yet another reason to own a 45 ;-)
: Andrew Kirch trel...@trelane.net
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:42 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: [SPAM-Low] Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a
human right
nothing like 40 short and wimpy! Might I interest you in a 45? :)
On 6/6/2011 11:37 AM, Nick Olsen wrote:
Don't leave
On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Daniel Seagraves wrote:
On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is the right to rid
yourself of criminals and despots. A fundamental right for citizens to
have
firearms does *not*
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:21:35AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Daniel Seagraves wrote:
On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is the right to rid
yourself of criminals and despots.
On Mon, 6 Jun 2011, Owen DeLong wrote:
While your statement above sounds wonderfully utopian, the reality is
that unless the citizens can take up arms against the government, the
government can, over time, become criminal. A disarmed populace has no
ability to protect itself from such a
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