Yes, they put these bizarre ideas out there to see what public opinion is, they don't have a chance in hell of implementing it.
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:46 PM, James Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They generally don't have any clue what they want. This is only a PR stunt > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:30 AM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Bad idea, >> >> The rogue government would use hospitals and power stations, to "cyber >> human shield" against the counter attack. >> >> You guys are living in cloud cuckoo land. The rogue government >> wouldn't have their bot nets in home computers that you could shut >> down easily. >> >> Read my rant about it all with the link below that I typed in May 2008 >> to stop the "Afcyber" idea going through. >> >> http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2008-May/062517.html >> >> All the best, >> >> n3td3v >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Tony Patti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:20 PM >> Subject: cnn.com - Homeland Security seeks cyber counterattack system >> (Einstein 3.0) >> To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> >> >> >> I presume this CNN article falls within the "Internet operational and >> technical issues" (especially security) criteria of the NANOG AUP, >> in terms of "operat[ing] an Internet connected network", >> especially where Chertoff refers to " like an anti-aircraft weapon, >> shoot down an [Internet] attack before it hits its target". >> >> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/10/04/chertoff.cyber.security/index.html >> >> Homeland Security seeks cyber counterattack system >> >> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- First, there was "Einstein," the federal >> government's effort to protect itself from cyber attacks by limiting >> the number of portals to government computer systems and searching for >> signs of cyber tampering. >> >> Then Einstein 2.0, a system now being tested to detect computer >> intrusions as they happen. >> >> And in the future? Perhaps Einstein 3.0, which would give the >> government the ability to fight back. >> >> Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on Friday said he'd like >> to see a government computer infrastructure that could look for early >> indications of computer skullduggery and stop it before it happens. >> >> The system "would literally, like an anti-aircraft weapon, shoot down >> an attack before it hits its target," he said. "And that's what we >> call Einstein 3.0." >> >> At a meeting with reporters to highlight National Cyber Security >> Month, Chertoff reiterated his belief that the government should >> aggressively defend its computer systems, saying that terrorists, if >> they gain expertise already available to others, would "cause >> potentially very serious havoc" to government systems. >> >> "Let's make the investment now rather than wait until there's a huge >> catastrophe," he said. >> >> But despite his emphasis on the risks posed, Chertoff said the >> government is moving slowly to avoid stepping on the toes of the >> private sector as it addresses calls to reorganize the governance of >> cyberspace to provide accountability and authority. >> >> "I think the question of what is the government's role in cyberspace >> in general needs to be discussed among all the stakeholders, because >> there is a culture of cyberspace that is an open architecture," he >> said. "And I think if we just came in and said we want to take it >> over, there'd be, understandably, a considerable amount of discomfort >> with that." >> >> "We are deliberately going slowly because we recognize that the issue >> of government involvement in the Internet is fraught with all kinds of >> potential concerns and potential anxieties about not having the >> government have a big-foot impact on an area of communication and >> commerce that has traditionally been viewed as really independent and >> free." >> >> Chertoff said the government is "feeling our way to what is the right >> mix of government involvement with protecting the Internet in the >> private domain while preserving everybody's comfort level that we're >> not going to be in their business in a way that would be >> inappropriate." >> >> Asked if he envisioned a world with two cyberspaces, he said he >> envisions a world with "a lot of different levels of security and >> trust, depending upon the nature of what it is that you're doing." >> >> "We already have that now, in the sense that we have classified >> systems which are walled off from unclassified systems," he said. >> The Bush administration released its National Cyber Security >> Initiative in January. The "most immediate component" of it from the >> Department of Homeland Security's perspective, Chertoff said, is to >> increase security for federal government computer systems. >> >> But another priority is to work with the private sector to address >> threats to businesses. This includes not only protection from hackers, >> but also from counterfeit parts, which an individual or another nation >> could use to create vulnerabilities in the United States, he said. >> E-mail to a friend >> >> >> Tony Patti >> CIO >> S. Walter Packaging Corp. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > -- > http://www.goldwatches.com/ > > http://www.jewelerslounge.com/ >